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LTTP : FF X-2 - WTF is this!?

Well, I think they may want to examine where their dislike of those things is coming from, but no, thats a perfectly fine reason to dislike something.

Its NOT however, a good reason to scream about how the game is horrible and it ruined final fantasy and anyone who likes it is an obvious creep and terrible person. (All things that have been said, in this thread, about the game).

I'm not a big fan of heavily masculine, violent shooty stuff, in general. So...I don't play those games. I don't make threads about how terrible those games are, and I don't tell people who like them that they are horrible people.

Its not the liking/disliking that is the issue, its people's inability to handle others liking/disliking things in ways they don't approve of. This thread, as started by the OP, is basically 1 step away from trolling, and certainly didn't convey anything that actually needed to be said.

"But, the OP wanted to know why people liked the game! He was curious because he disliked it!" you say. Well, the OP post is basically him mocking the game and basically saying he could never understand why people liked it. (he also only played 40 minutes, which does that even get you gameplay? Its been so long I don't remember, but in some FFs it definitely doesn't) But then throughout the thread he ignores people who say they like it, he argues that people's explanations for why they liked it can't be true, and just in general shows no interest in actually having his opinion changed.

And if you aren't interested in having your opinion changed, or at least aren't open to the possibility, don't make a thread for it. its pointless and just makes people mad. (this applies to a lot of threads on GAF, and of course on messageboards throughout the interent. This is nothing new. I've been on various messageboards for over 15 years, and I know how this goes. Acting like this is something shocking and beyond the pale doesn't fool anyone.)

Anyway, what the OP wanted wasn't to find out why people liked the game, he wanted to mock people who liked the game, and have his opinion that the game was shitty and girly validated by others. And many posters went right ahead and did just that. They confirmed for each other that they weren't bad for not liking girly things, and reestablished their manhood credits.

I've seen this dozens and dozens of times, this isn't new. This has been happening literally since before the game even came out, well over a decade ago.

Do you want to know what the reactions were when the first key visual was released? I bet you can imagine. Its not hard.

And then the game came out, and the reactions were, well, exactly what we've seen.

I don't care if you like the game or not, but if you're gonna come out and publicly announce yourself to be a jackass over it, don't be surprised when you get pushback.

A lot of people aren't as reasonable and as rational as they should be, or able to understand and at least try to appreciate other people's viewpoints. It's an inherent flaw with human nature as sad as it is. But the easy thing to do is just ignore them. I mean wasn't the biggest fan of FFX-2, so I just moved on. I'm also not a fan of the dudebro and overly macho stuff either, so largely ignore those too. I figured that was the simple and easy thing to do, not pay much attention to things that don't really interest me. It's only when I started browsing gaming forums that I realised there was so much drama about that single entry in a long franchise.

Yes there'll be people who are over dramatic in their criticisms of things you may enjoy, while refusing to see things from another side. They can be in their own.bubble at times. But it's best to forget them. Because when you get overly defensive as a counter it can make yourself look just as bad with your responses.
 
The problem I have specifically with FFX is that they made Sin out to be something that has never been defeated before, that they can't find any way to defeat Sin except through using the Final Aeon. The Final Aeon required a sacrifice.

Most of the story (after the reveal) makes it much dramatic until they do the solution of just going for the attack and that's it. They actually win just by charging and attacking Sin.
I thought it was because:
  • Jecht had a soft spot for the hymn
  • Jecht had some idea that he was fighting Tidus
  • We used machina (airship cannons)
  • A healthy dose of "our protags are better"-itis (And we had 7 guardians. Unprecendented!)

Thinking back, my biggest complaint about FFX-2 is how unbalanced some of the jobs were. Even disregarding Mascot and the International jobs, it's like they didn't even try with some of these.
 
Because when you get overly defensive as a counter it can make yourself look just as bad with your responses.

Fuck that.

Thats just surrendering to whoever the biggest asshole is. You say stupid shit, you're gonna get pushback. You don't want that, don't say stupid shit.

I don't go on at length about things I hate because A) I've got better shit to do, and B) it just pisses off the people who like it, and we get into arguments. I'd much rather just enjoy things I like.

But if you're gonna stomp around and whine about how horrible you found the girls doing the girly things in your precious manly JRPGs, then I have no issues with saying you're full of shit.
 
I thought it was because:
  • Jecht had a soft spot for the hymn
  • Jecht had some idea that he was fighting Tidus
  • We used machina (airship cannons)
  • A healthy dose of "our protags are better"-itis (And we had 7 guardians. Unprecendented!)

Thinking back, my biggest complaint about FFX-2 is how unbalanced some of the jobs were. Even disregarding Mascot and the International jobs, it's like they didn't even try with some of these.

Which are you referring to? Samurai was really cool but rather lackluster especially when you already had Dark Knight by then. Black Mage was good early on but only having the elemental spells sucked.
 
Character-wise i think it destroyed what FFX build (which i still believe to this day that X had the most well developed characters in a FF game) and i also vastly prefered X's combat system (again probably my favorite out of any FF game) than X-2's.

However i still enjoyed the game for what it was and i liked its more carefree nature (although i hated the Charlie's Angels obvious influences).One day i really want to play the HD version which is in my backlog (played the PS2 version when it first came out)

Also i was very disappointed with how they changed Blitzball. :/
 
God how many of you guys have even SEEN Charlies Angels. Christ.

Is really your go-to reference for a group of girls kicking ass, CHARLIES FUCKING ANGELS?!

And do you seriously think thats the go-to reference the Japanese developers used!?

Its a goddamn Magical Girl game. Not Charlies Angels.
 
God how many of you guys have even SEEN Charlies Angels. Christ.

Is really your go-to reference for a group of girls kicking ass, CHARLIES FUCKING ANGELS?!

And do you seriously think thats the go-to reference the Japanese developers used!?

Its a goddamn Magical Girl game. Not Charlies Angels.

Isn't the intro with character cut-ins with names CA inspired?

And yes, blitz ball in X-2 was so shitty. I remember playing it so much in X back in the day (didn't feel like going through all that in HD though).
 
God how many of you guys have even SEEN Charlies Angels. Christ.

Is really your go-to reference for a group of girls kicking ass, CHARLIES FUCKING ANGELS?!

And do you seriously think thats the go-to reference the Japanese developers used!?

Its a goddamn Magical Girl game. Not Charlies Angels.

Pretty much.

Halfway through Chapter 1 in my playthrough inspired by this thread, and having a great time.

The story is not as silly as I remember. In fact, if you ignore the concerts, and pop stuff, the story is fairly engaging and makes complete sense as a lighthearted epilogue to FFX.
 
Which are you referring to? Samurai was really cool but rather lackluster especially when you already had Dark Knight by then. Black Mage was good early on but only having the elemental spells sucked.
It's been discussed already, but basically a handful of jobs like Dark Knight totally eclipse the rest. I can't name any offhand with confidence, but a bunch of the jobs just felt introductory or just plain worse than others.

And now this thread has me starting another playthrough haha.
 
And yes, blitz ball in X-2 was so shitty. I remember playing it so much in X back in the day (didn't feel like going through all that in HD though).

Yup,Blitzball was fantastic in X.One of my favorite mini games ever. Too bad they ruined it in X-2.
 
Yup,Blitzball was fantastic in X.One of my favorite mini games ever. Too bad they ruined it in X-2.
Blitzball fantastic? Lol the blessing of opinions. Blitzball was a gigantic waste of time. All it did was serve to waste several hours getting Wakka's Jupiter Sigil. Incredibly boring to the point I would score a goal and wait behind the goalie to speed things up, resetting the data, to avoid pointless tournaments that didn't provide an overdrive or the Sigil.

FFX has without question for me the worst minigames in Final Fantasy. Chocobo dodging is annoying as fuck, catching butterflies, dodging 200 Lightning bolts IN A ROW, running around a desert finding cactuars. Seriously? What the fuck at that shit.
 
Blitzball fantastic? Lol the blessing of opinions. Blitzball was a gigantic waste of time. All it did was serve to waste several hours getting Wakka's Jupiter Sigil. Incredibly boring to the point I would score a goal and wait behind the goalie to speed things up, resetting the data, to avoid pointless tournaments that didn't provide an overdrive or the Sigil.

FFX has without question for me the worst minigames in Final Fantasy. Chocobo dodging is annoying as fuck, catching butterflies, dodging 200 Lightning bolts IN A ROW, running around a desert finding cactuars. Seriously? What the fuck at that shit.

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My only problem with Blitzball was that at some point it became really easy but you could balance that out by recruiting players with mid-level stats (after you got Wakka's sigil of course.)

Wasn't fond of the celestial weapon trials myself either although i'm not sure if i would call them mini games.
 
It's a good game with a superb battle system

It's only notable flaw is the true ending tjat trainwrecks, trainwrecks FFX's ending
 
Have you ever watched anime

Not much, Sailor Moon has nothing like that, which is only magical girl anime I've seen.

It's been discussed already, but basically a handful of jobs like Dark Knight totally eclipse the rest. I can't name any offhand with confidence, but a bunch of the jobs just felt introductory or just plain worse than others.

And now this thread has me starting another playthrough haha.

I tried using all the dresspheres at some point just to avoid stagnation, but you're right, which is hardly to exclusive to this game compared to other job systems.

Gunner - starts off very weak, nothing too amazing but Trigger Happy 3 is nice
Thief - very useful, probably the best thief job in the series
Warrior - useful throughout, strong damage, elemental abilities, and the breaks
Songstress - decently useful at first but quickly becomes obsolete and never really has merit, unfortunately. Some good dances, though. No merit to the singing however.
Black Mage - discussed
White Mage - buffs being area of effect was cool, but honestly X-2 can be so easy that I would rather run 3 damage dealing dresspheres and heal outside of battle if needed
Gun Mage - amazing, one of the best. The fiend class shots do a ton of damage and the blue bullets are quite useful
Alchemist - honestly never bothered, but people swear by it. Mixing/chemist classes are never my thing.
Dark Knight - obviously among the best, and being unlocked before some other offensive classes is not good news for those classes
Samurai - honestly I really enjoy it, but it pales compared to DK
Lady Luck - fuck Shinra and this mini game. However, I remember Lady Luck being a crit machine and fun to use as a result
Berserker - definitely able to match DK because of the ridiculous counter abilities, just have to be careful using Berserk
Trainer - I love that every girl has a different ability set. That said, it's nothing outstanding but I enjoyed using it.
Mascot - worth all the shit you gotta do to unlock them.

Special dresspheres I never bothered too much, although Yuna's seemed the worse.

Since I didn't get far into HD version, I don't believe I used Psychic or even had it yet, and Festival-Goer Yuna didn't seem much of anything.
 
Again, though, what are the actual changes that are so severe here? She starts out the game resisting Rikku's attempts to make her have fun and overly deferent to other people's needs. The plot beats are specifically about her shaking out of that through her experiences travelling Spira with the Gullwings. The character arc is pretty heavily showcased in the game, she doesn't start with any serious personality change at all.

Honestly, I think a lot of people see the first half of the opening cutscene, assume the person performing the pop concert at the beginning is actually Yuna, and then read that as this "huge" "personality change" without actually going through to see how the real Yuna is actually presented when she shows up.

I don't think anyone here will mistake the real one from the fake. There are plenty of people who play through the game and have problem with its characterization. X-2 Yuna, in my opinion, has a too different posture. The way they introduce (the real)her and the idol singer moves(again, the real one) is just way too much. And the explanation of the change... is lazy.
 
Yup,Blitzball was fantastic in X.One of my favorite mini games ever. Too bad they ruined it in X-2.

I thought BB was good at the time, for whatever reason. Revisiting in the HD collection really shines a light on how abysmal it is. They made it better in X-2 since you didn't have to actually play it anymore.

Definitely agree that the minigames in X are super duper bad. Definitely the weakest part of the otherwise solid post-game content.
 
The defense force for the game makes some good points, enough that Spira celebrating after finally being freed from Sin makes it almost believable, but as much as people try to explain the leap from FFX Yuna to FFX-2 Yuna doesn't work for me. It's past character growth at that point - almost like a completely different person.

In fairness she had planned to be dead at this point, what should Yuna be like now? She is living a life she never imagined she could have, in a way she is a different person. I always felt her upbeat, hyper personality was partly a front anyway, she is trying to build a life free from the restrictions of Yevon and her goal to defeat Sin.

The quieter more reflective moments show Yuna as she really is, and it isn't that much of a leap. She still can't refuse to help people, she is very upset with how Zanarkand has changed, and at times pretty uncomfortable with her level of 'celebrity'. Most importantly though, she is still dealing with the loss of her loved ones. It makes perfect sense to me.
 
X-2 is good.

Not as good as X, but it's the second best ps2 FF and one of the only good ones after VI imo.

Edit: Post #420! Lol
 
On the topic of Blitzball, I really liked it for the fact that it was a turn-based take on the PES Master League formula where you recruit and train players. Building up certain players (Blappa was ridiculous for instance) in your unbeatable team and then releasing them to have more of a challenge is really, really satisfying and keeps things fresh.

Even 10-12 years after beating FFX I still boot up my old save with the best Blitz progress from time to time. Would have really liked to see a standalone in the vein of the old Harry Potter Qudditch games. Just not the FFX-2 "Blitzball Manager" version.
 
I thought it was because:
  • Jecht had a soft spot for the hymn
  • Jecht had some idea that he was fighting Tidus
  • We used machina (airship cannons)
  • A healthy dose of "our protags are better"-itis (And we had 7 guardians. Unprecendented!)

Thinking back, my biggest complaint about FFX-2 is how unbalanced some of the jobs were. Even disregarding Mascot and the International jobs, it's like they didn't even try with some of these.

Also no one else knew about Yu Yevon, all of the things you mentioned helped them punch a hole in it's side and confront Jecht, then finally Yu Yevon. Yuna only found out about it from the Bahamut fayth after refusing the Aeon if I remember right, obviously that had never been done before.

Thinking about it, they didn't actually defeat Sin, as in the Sin the monster. They went straight for the source.
 
I did not get to play it during ps2 era and boy was I slapped in the face with the hd remaster. Kpop girlband is just not my cap of tea. Luna inflicting status effects by crigneworthy dance... ugh. I love anime and manga and I thought I have a lot of tollerance for this kind of thing. I dont. Cant imagine avreage western player finding it appealing. But ppl here seem to love it. Just reminds me that sometimes it isnt worth it to listen to GAF.
 
I did not get to play it during ps2 era and boy was I slapped in the face with the hd remaster. Kpop girlband is just not my cap of tea. Luna inflicting status effects by crigneworthy dance... ugh. I love anime and manga and I thought I have a lot of tollerance for this kind of thing. I dont. Cant imagine avreage western player finding it appealing. But ppl here seem to love it. Just reminds me that sometimes it isnt worth it to listen to GAF.

It got 9.5 from IGN back in the day if that helps, although Gamespot's 8.1 is more accurate I think. It's super divisive so your not alone.
 
I'll go further than I did earlier.

Not only is X-2 better than X, but it's also better than XII, making it the best single player Final Fantasy RPG available on the PS2.

Hell, even further...

It's the best console Final Fantasy game since FFIX (XI shits all over X-2, but whatever).
 
It got 9.5 from IGN back in the day if that helps, although Gamespot's 8.1 is more accurate I think. It's super divisive so your not alone.

Mainstream media of IGN creed never dare give a high prfoile release anything lover than 8. If there are rabbid fans out there who will defend a given game regardless of the quality they chicken out. Sometimes when a game or a publisher have a lot of bad will with most players such as KONAMI they will play their audience to appease it. Just wait for the next KONAMI game and see if IGN is as linent on the review.as with lets say FFXV. Just wait and see. I personally preffer to read Jim Fucking Sterling Sons's reviews. At least they are honest even if I don't agree. Easy Allies reviews seem to be ok as well.
 
This game wouldn't have 10% of the hate it does now if the opening scene was at the end of Chapter 1 or something. I guess most haters really did quit at that point, as no matter how many times it's debunked, they still go back to the whole tone of the game being girly pop.


Mainstream media of IGN creed never dare give a high prfoile release anything lover than 8. If there are rabbid fans out there who will defend a given game regardless of the quality they chicken out. Sometimes when a game or a publisher have a lot of bad will with most players such as KONAMI they will play their audience to appease it. Just wait for the next KONAMI game and see if IGN is as linent on the review.as with lets say FFXV. Just wait and see. I personally preffer to read Jim Fucking Sterling Sons's reviews. At least they are honest even if I don't agree. Easy Allies reviews seem to be ok as well.


So you think they gave the game a 9.5 just because of how big it was? What about the other 44 critics that contributed to its 85 metascore? How much of the game did you even play?(Can't have been much as you seem to think it's all about Kpop and put off by the Songstress which almost no one uses after like 10 minutes in)


FWIW, I don't mind people not liking what I do, but spreading misinformation to justify hate by people that haven't played beyond a cursory level is tiring.
 
This game wouldn't have 10% of the hate it does now if the opening scene was at the end of Chapter 1 or something. I guess most haters really did quit at that point, as no matter how many times it's debunked, they still go back to the whole tone of the game being girly pop.

It is not jus that. The game just seems out of place for me. I started playing right after finishing FFX and couldn't wait to continue adventure with the cast I fell in love with. Luna a pop star with dancing moves? It doesnt fit. Seems like a cash grab using FFX popularity because it all doesn't make sense. Maybe I would like it better if it didnt use Luna and Rikku or FFX's world as a backdrop.
 
It is not jus that. The game just seems out of place for me. I started playing right after finishing FFX and couldn't wait to continue adventure with the cast I fell in love with. Luna a pop star with dancing moves? It doesnt fit. Seems like a cash grab using FFX popularity because it all doesn't make sense. Maybe I would like it better if it didnt use Luna and Rikku or FFX's world as a backdrop.

She sings once in the game to ease Spira's trouble(in Chapter 4). That doesn't really count as her being some big pop star. The opening is an imposter, and Yuna doesn't act like that. Of course she's popular and has fans all over as she's the High Summoner, daughter of the previous High Summoner.

Like I said, the tone for the vast majority of the game is nothing like the opening. Even her later performance is emotional and moving, not pop-y.
 
She sings once in the game to ease Spira's trouble(in Chapter 4). That doesn't really count as her being some big pop star. The opening is an imposter, and Yuna doesn't act like that. Of course she's popular and has fans all over as she's the High Summoner, daughter of the previous High Summoner.

I envy your enthusiasm about the game. I would like to love it but I just can't just like OP. I played for about 4 hours and gave up. Gladly I got it with the remaster but if I bought it full proce back in the day I would be livid.

I know Luna was popular around the world in FFX but thats where similarity ends. Rikku and Luna are just that, names and 3d models used to make the game sell better to me. Just my personal opionion.
 
Mainstream media of IGN creed never dare give a high prfoile release anything lover than 8. If there are rabbid fans out there who will defend a given game regardless of the quality they chicken out. Sometimes when a game or a publisher have a lot of bad will with most players such as KONAMI they will play their audience to appease it. Just wait for the next KONAMI game and see if IGN is as linent on the review.as with lets say FFXV. Just wait and see. I personally preffer to read Jim Fucking Sterling Sons's reviews. At least they are honest even if I don't agree. Easy Allies reviews seem to be ok as well.

I don't know about any of that, it was just better received by critics than the majority of fans at the time. I think most outlets are sceptical about XV, it's got 7.5-8.5 written all over it.
 
It is not jus that. The game just seems out of place for me. I started playing right after finishing FFX and couldn't wait to continue adventure with the cast I fell in love with. Luna a pop star with dancing moves? It doesnt fit. Seems like a cash grab using FFX popularity because it all doesn't make sense. Maybe I would like it better if it didnt use Luna and Rikku or FFX's world as a backdrop.


I'm sorry but I have to question your love of X, when you keep saying Luna, instead of Yuna.

If anything X-2 was a direct reaction to upset caused by the ending of X and a cop out on that ending. I think they did a great job depicting a post Sin world, seeing them rebuild and explore new technology was great. Plus the political aspect doesn't get enough credit imo. The friction caused by people wanting to break from the past completely and those needing the security of Yevon was really interesting.

Yuna also isn't a pop star, she sings once to try and bring people together, happens all the time in the real world. I said earlier, she thought she would be dead at this point, this is a new life for her, so being different in many ways is a good thing, she still has a lot of baggage though, and seeing her come to terms with the past is really well executed imo.
 
You know you could like... try the game? And not live under the judgement of your masculinity-obsessed brother?

To be fair I did try it a few years back in the HD collection and didn't really like the intro at all.
 
Thats nice but what about the game?

The actual game yeah I played it for an hour or two. Coming from FFX HD I couldn't really get into it. Maybe I'll go back to it one day and give it another chance.
 
I see your point and I guess I can concede that there probably was, and perhaps still is, a lot of subliminal sexism going on around the release date and that it certainly would of negatively influenced the reception of the game. I don't care for the game, and I know it has nothing to do with sexism in my case, but I shouldn't project my feelings on the subject towards others with the silly
, asinine really
, assumption that everyone who disliked the game did so for reasons like mine.

Yeah, and conversely it's good to make it clear that (as much as I adore this game) there are plenty of reasons to dislike it that have nothing to do with ew girl cooties.

I thought it was because:
  • Jecht had a soft spot for the hymn
  • Jecht had some idea that he was fighting Tidus
  • We used machina (airship cannons)
  • A healthy dose of "our protags are better"-itis (And we had 7 guardians. Unprecendented!)

Most of that's true, but the really key thing is that the Final Aeon actually destroys Sin (before becoming the core of the next Sin later on) while the FFX heroes don't even actually kill it, just basically knock it out. If they didn't go inside to confront Yu Yevon it would have eventually just gotten back up and started killing again.

I don't think anyone here will mistake the real one from the fake. There are plenty of people who play through the game and have problem with its characterization. X-2 Yuna, in my opinion, has a too different posture. The way they introduce (the real)her and the idol singer moves(again, the real one) is just way too much. And the explanation of the change... is lazy.

Again, what exactly about her personality doesn't line up? Most of Yuna's key character traits -- intense selflessness, uncertainty about her own desires, confusion about how normal people do stuff -- are right there from the beginning.
 
Also no one else knew about Yu Yevon, all of the things you mentioned helped them punch a hole in it's side and confront Jecht, then finally Yu Yevon. Yuna only found out about it from the Bahamut fayth after refusing the Aeon if I remember right, obviously that had never been done before.

Thinking about it, they didn't actually defeat Sin, as in the Sin the monster. They went straight for the source.

Most of that's true, but the really key thing is that the Final Aeon actually destroys Sin (before becoming the core of the next Sin later on) while the FFX heroes don't even actually kill it, just basically knock it out. If they didn't go inside to confront Yu Yevon it would have eventually just gotten back up and started killing again.
Yep. I was more addressing how they could even overcome the "shell" of Sin to begin with, but you guys are totally right too.
 
I feel like some people intently ignore Yuna's personality cause they can't get past everything else. There really isn't that huge a jump as some try to make it out to be.

Yuna is certainly the same character but just trying to find herself, she's 19 years old in X-2 it's really not that far fetched.
 
I'm sorry but I have to question your love of X, when you keep saying Luna, instead of Yuna.

If anything X-2 was a direct reaction to upset caused by the ending of X and a cop out on that ending. I think they did a great job depicting a post Sin world, seeing them rebuild and explore new technology was great. Plus the political aspect doesn't get enough credit imo. The friction caused by people wanting to break from the past completely and those needing the security of Yevon was really interesting.

Yuna also isn't a pop star, she sings once to try and bring people together, happens all the time in the real world. I said earlier, she thought she would be dead at this point, this is a new life for her, so being different in many ways is a good thing, she still has a lot of baggage though, and seeing her come to terms with the past is really well executed imo.

I do this all the time with names :) You are right it is Yuna. I twist things and that's how I read them. I do the same with book protoganists... The additional chapter with HD remaster is enough of a conclusion in my opionion.. X-2 I prefer to forget.
I am not trying to hate on the game it is just not my cup of tea and if other people like it all the power to them.

Just after trying to play X-2, Youtube had this recomendation for me that was a complete coincidance: https://youtu.be/y5X2_GNNjbY
 
I do this all the time with names :) You are right it is Yuna. I twist things and that's how I read them. I do the same with book protoganists... The additional chapter with HD remaster is enough of a conclusion in my opionion.. X-2 I prefer to forget.
I am not trying to hate on the game it is just not my cup of tea and if other people like it all the power to them.

Just after trying to play X-2, Youtube had this recomendation for me that was a complete coincidance: https://youtu.be/y5X2_GNNjbY


You think that abomination 2.5 shit was better than X-2? Girl...
 
You think that abomination 2.5 shit was better than X-2? Girl...

I said it was enough of a conclusion. Seeing Yuna and Wakka a bit older and getting on with their lives... That was all I needed. X-2 is not my thing that's all. I had the same thing with Mass Effect series. Just because I personally don't like it I can acknowledge and appreciate others who love it.
 
I do this all the time with names :) You are right it is Yuna. I twist things and that's how I read them. I do the same with book protoganists... The additional chapter with HD remaster is enough of a conclusion in my opionion.. X-2 I prefer to forget.
I am not trying to hate on the game it is just not my cup of tea and if other people like it all the power to them.

Just after trying to play X-2, Youtube had this recomendation for me that was a complete coincidance: https://youtu.be/y5X2_GNNjbY

That's cool, I understand why people would be turned off. For me I can see interesting themes, some of them executed really well, and I love the battle system. But even I think the first few chapters are a bit rough. There is a chapter I really dislike where you just have to watch sphere's for the whole thing. That is unforgivable. It's a mixed bag for sure, but I have learned to appreciate it more over time.
 
I said it was enough of a conclusion. Seeing Yuna and Wakka a bit older and getting on with their lives... That was all I needed. X-2 is not my thing that's all. I had the same thing with Mass Effect series. Just because I personally don't like it I can acknowledge and appreciate others who love it.

Oh, are you referring to Eternal Calm?
 
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