Hasphat'sAnts
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYS1PjTkHIQ&index=14&list=PL_3rJhzHvq5GJ_FATfhk4_lUNIs9zBuxR
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYS1PjTkHIQ&index=14&list=PL_3rJhzHvq5GJ_FATfhk4_lUNIs9zBuxR
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So watch all of 90s and watch 2011 from where the 90s versions left off?
IMO
Watch first episode of 90s anime, watch all of 2011, then go back if you're interested.
Coincidentally I already watched the first episode of the 90s anime a few months back. It felt really slow to me so I never bothered continuing.
Jigolo
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2011 has way better animation, music and consistency.
99 has a better episode 1 because of reasons, that's it
Watch episode 1 of 99 then watch episode 1-148 of 2011
^EDIT: Good. now start 2011
EDIT X2 OMG!: BDS COMING LATE 2016 WTTTTTFF HOW DID I MISS THIS
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-ne...-x-hunter-coming-to-dvd-and-blu-ray-late-2016
99 has a better episode 1 because of reasons, that's it
Watch episode 1 of 99 then watch episode 1-148 of 2011
^EDIT: Good. now start 2011
EDIT X2 OMG!: BDS COMING LATE 2016 WTTTTTFF HOW DID I MISS THIS
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-ne...-x-hunter-coming-to-dvd-and-blu-ray-late-2016
UnemployedVillain
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Why do people say this? It's blatantly untrue. Every major fight has been better animated in '99. Hell the mansion breakin at the start of Yorkshin with Kurapica showed just how much this was true
Hasphat'sAnts
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Sure, 1999 had better credits, but that's like, 10% of an episode. The rest of the music sounds like a local theater production of the Phantom of the Opera
Why do people say this? It's blatantly untrue. Every major fight has been better animated in '99. Hell the mansion breakin at the start of Yorkshin with Kurapica showed just how much this was true
I can find plenty of examples where the 2011 version was better as well, like the
Uvo fight and Gon vs Hisoka
2011 has plenty of good animation that's better than the 1999 equivalent and the same is also true the other way. They both have their moments. 2011 anime is definitely more consistent with it though. I have no idea how Madhouse was able to keep up the quality and consistency as a long running series for years. Got even better as it went on too.
UnemployedVillain
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Okay, not trying to derail this thread, but the Uvo fight looked MUCH better in '99. I honestly don't know why people think 2011 looked better.
Anyway, I enjoyed what Madhouse did in the later arcs and I think they handled the Ants really well
hosannainexcelsis
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I think there are pluses and minuses to both approaches. In particular, the black and white moment of 2011 is a really excellent touch that helps to elevate that moment above what the 1999 version provided.
I prefer the 2011 version just from those short clips, but the video doesn't have some of the best cuts from the 2011 version lol. But yeah I don't want to derail either and this is stuff I don't really want to talk about too much because OP isn't that far in. 1999 version is still good, I just like the 2011 one more.
NHarmonic.
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The 1999 stuff looks so colourful compared to 2011, but i didn't notice while watching. Weird.
heliosRAzi
Banned
Explanation for the categories? Those are explained. Did you miss an episode or something? Gon's transformation has been explained and makes complete sense. Multiple nen users, especially those with powerful abilities have restrictions that they follow. Chrollo, the Bomber, Kurapika, and so on.
They're not really defeated, they basically just come to a stalemate. But you know what, they are defeated by the power of friendship, but not Gon's and Killua's. It happens within the Phantom Troupe itself. Chrollo thought that his peeps would come after our heroes even if his life was in danger, but the rest of the Troupe didn't, because they valued his life, which caused some internal strife between them. Gon and Killua didn't bring that factor in, they probably revealed it, but it was already there when the Troupe rioted over Uvo.
SoulUnison
Banned
The pacing gets so bad in the later
arc that I started resenting
any time he showed up, because he seemed to make the pacing get even *worse.*
There's literally an episode where he stands still in the middle of a battle for 20 minutes thinking about whether or not he should do something,
Ant
Morel
There's literally an episode where he stands still in the middle of a battle for 20 minutes thinking about whether or not he should do something,
and then it turns out to be completely moot, anyway.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
OK,
how do those restrictions work? Is there some sentient force out there that recognizes these? Are they tied to the calamities? How is someone like Alluka able to exorcist restrictions but we only see Nen uses do that?How come Gon's hair shot to the sky upon his restriction?
So... friendship wins?
I do think a lot of
battles were better handled in the 99 adaptation. They had a darker, more grounded atmosphere that matched the arc better and the movements looked more realistic
. Things like the stylised black and white look from when
certainly look cool, but I'd say that in and of itself is thematically dissonant with the original tone of the scene and what it was trying to convey. It's not supposed to be
. There's certainly an argument to be made about the newer adaptation being flashier, but sometimes it detracts from scenes that are supposed to be heavy in nature, and it's not like they were incapable of delivering that.
was an instance where I'd say the newer adaptation improved even on the source material. Both are really strong adaptations overall, but on mood alone I'd give the older version of
the edge.
Everything past that was much better handled in the newer anime though, specially the
episodes that were on a whole other level compared to those shoddy ovas.
in general was just handled better in the new adaptation. Also it actually adapts the best arc of the manga and ends on a point that makes for a satisfying ending so it's a better product when all is said and done.
As for the earlier stuff, Hunter Exam was better in the 99 adaptation, the Zoldyck arc is boring on all of them, and the
was better in the newer adaptation since they actually showed
instead of straight up skipping it.
Yorknew
(Kurapika keeps jumping 100 ft in the air on the newer version like he's superman or somethin and keeps being tossed at supersonic speeds by every single punch)
Kurapika murders Uvo
a cool, stylistic vengeance scene, but rather a cold blooded execution
Uvo's requiem
Yorkshin
Everything past that was much better handled in the newer anime though, specially the
dodgeball
Greed Island
As for the earlier stuff, Hunter Exam was better in the 99 adaptation, the Zoldyck arc is boring on all of them, and the
Battle Tower
Hisoka vs Kastro
SoulUnison
Banned
On the hair thing
, specifically, Gon had basically used Nen to forcefully, temporarily age his body to his theoretical "peak," an adult Gon who had full mastery of his Nen. Since he basically just aged several years instantly, his hair grew years in length without being cut. It's probably the most straightforward aspect of Gon-San.
heliosRAzi
Banned
It's all based on their aura. Those no sentient force that is presiding over these. Nen users make promises to themselves: I will only use this chain on Phantom Troupe members, if I don't, I will die; I will sacrifice the entirety of my nen and my potential with it to kill this person; I must explain my nen ability in full before I can use it; if I borrow someone's power, they must remain alive in order for me to use it; and so on. It's all on them.
As for Alluka: it's implied that her powers aren't nen based.
Gon's hair: a stylistic choice and the length of his hair has absolutely no bearing on the story at all, so to trip over that is nitpicking
As for Alluka: it's implied that her powers aren't nen based.
Gon's hair: a stylistic choice and the length of his hair has absolutely no bearing on the story at all, so to trip over that is nitpicking
Basically, but is there anything wrong with that? And, again, it's not that Gon and Killua showed them that friendship is awesome and that's how they beat them. And it's not like it's keeping the Troupe from doing anything bad ever again. They just ended that situation where all parties pretty much survive and can go on, but it doesn't mean that they won't go commit mass murder.
I don't think you actually paid attention to the anime, but if you want to keep complaining, go right on ahead.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
His hair
is way too long almost like a receiver
This makes no sense. Where does this immeasurable power come from? Why does a restriction tap into it?
She can theoretically manipulate nen.
If her powers are superior to nen then there's other forces out there that can interact and control nen without actually being a nen user. Understand? This is why putting a restriction on yourself is ambiguous due to there being these higher forces at play.
Then it's why super stylistic choice if I've ever seen one.
Nothing wrong with it but it's to show friendship and love did win in the end. All I said was the trope and cliche shonen had tropes and cliches which you agree to.
I don't know if you actually understand Nen. You keep wanting this strict definitions of what can and can't ne done and the fact you're asking "where does the power" come from is a bit silly when its basically just spirit energy. Where is it coming from in the first place?
Nen after the basic categories and so forth is basically magic. In a sense its the power of ones imagination made manifest. People have categories where they are slotted that designate what they'll be able to master easiest and what their natural affinity is for. However after that its basically entirely on the individual user and if you remember Wing's "fake" description of Nen to throw of Gon and Killua, well that's actually pretty accurate.
Nen after the basic categories and so forth is basically magic. In a sense its the power of ones imagination made manifest. People have categories where they are slotted that designate what they'll be able to master easiest and what their natural affinity is for. However after that its basically entirely on the individual user and if you remember Wing's "fake" description of Nen to throw of Gon and Killua, well that's actually pretty accurate.
Nen isn't just spirit energy, its basically your outlook on life made corporeal, its your own personal religion. Just training really hard for a long time will only get you so far. You'll be powerful but you have to take another step to really become powerful. That's not even necessarily just a restriction on ones abilities. Netero was one of the strongest Nen users in the world for a human not because he trained for decades in the wilderness by himself. That tied into it but his true power came from the religious epiphany he had while praying. His Nen was specifically tied to not just his prayer motion of clapping his hands before attacking but the fact that he was becoming one with God by doing so. By extension his Nen is so monstrously powerful because of his deep connection with his religion.
Even Meruem says this during the battle. The dedication to learning one move to the insane degree's that Netero did is stupid, silly and pointless but it was also his greatest strength. His focus was so single minded, his tunnel vision so great that his prayer became his power and his prayer was so mighty in his minds eye that it became physically nigh unstoppable in the form of the 100 Type Guanyin Boddhisatva. Some examples of similar ideas in other fiction is the Patronus Charm from Harry Potter.
Even Meruem says this during the battle. The dedication to learning one move to the insane degree's that Netero did is stupid, silly and pointless but it was also his greatest strength. His focus was so single minded, his tunnel vision so great that his prayer became his power and his prayer was so mighty in his minds eye that it became physically nigh unstoppable in the form of the 100 Type Guanyin Boddhisatva. Some examples of similar ideas in other fiction is the Patronus Charm from Harry Potter.
irfaanator
Banned
just finished it myself. Series was enjoyable outside the crazy amount of exposition during the
. Like I understand some of the exposition but do you really need to explain someone going through a door or how theyre covering large distances when the viewer can ascertain what's happening just by watching
Chimera Ant arc
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
It's better than DBZ.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
This explains nothing of the Chimera Ants then.
How is it someone like Alluka is able to influence Nen? She isn't a Nen. This brings up questions about the order of the world they live in. Theoretically she can
grant a wish where that person becomes the strongest that will ever, ever be--this creates problems. The King's Nen was essentially amplified Nen from human beings, this goes against this "outlook on life". The Dark Continent will most likely explore the laws of the world far greater than what has been shown. Nen is still very much a mystery. It is mentioned that the Dark Continent contains things much stronger than the King.
irfaanator
Banned
supposedly alluka's other side is a beast from the dark continent from what the wiki says
heliosRAzi
Banned
Because it is the conviction of one's will. If someone places a restriction on themselves, but keeps breaking it, it's not much of a restriction, and therefore, their ability won't be as powerful. It's like a person who wants to be stronger, so he promises that he will lift weights and eat better, but he exercises infrequently and still eats junk; he's not going to become strong.
She can theoretically control anything. And you're still not getting it.
This power is all within you. You have to train to unlock it and make it grow. It is stated in the show that it is based on a person's aura, you're just not paying attention to it. Alluka is different, though; her powers might be based on something entirely different. But even then, she can freely use it whenever she pleases.
It's just the way of the world. Do you have the same questions for Harry Potter?
Because Togashi wanted it that way.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I've been rewatching it and I didn't notice how inconsistent the violence "censorship" is throughout. Early on we get limb decapitation as white sparkly magic, but then later we get legit blood but then later still we get red sparkly magic
Where are you seeing this? The later stuff is more violent than ever. Only the beginning stuff had legit censorship.
Necromanti
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I'll be really disappointed if those are manga spoilers in a thread about the anime. I don't recall seeing some of that stuff mentioned.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I think it was Chimera Ants when Kite unleashes the scythe. The version on Netflix at least was a slow pan of a lot of red sparkles as opposed to anything too explicit
darkwing-buck
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It gets better for sure. That being said I think the 90's series handled the hunter exam arc WAY better!
That sounds like a stylistic choice more than anything. That arc certainly doesn't shy away from the violence when it wants to.
What is Nen supposed to explain about the Chimera Ants?
They can use Nen because they are based on humans after the Queen started eating them. Not just physically but even people's soul/mind/memories get transferred over. Notice how the Queen or the simple first generation Chimera Ants don't use Nen because they aren't based on humans at all.
I'm not even talking about what Alluka can do because we don't know enough on that situation. I'm just speaking about what we are informed Nen can do from the characters themselves and what we can see from them.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Anybody who thinks '99 looks better clearly hasn't seen the Chimera Ant arc and beyond.
heliosRAzi
Banned
What's amazing about the 2011 version is how consistent it is.
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LegendofDragoonLives
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It gets better IMO. Two arcs
are some of the best arcs you can watch for me. Read spoiler for arc title if you wanna know what's going to blow your mind. Series is more dark and mature then you might think.
York New and Chimera
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
ok so nen is hxh's equivalent to ki/hamon?
Basically, its more like the Stands from Jojo to an extent.
heliosRAzi
Banned
Basically this
But nen can be extremely flexible, especially depending on the user. People have their specialized abilities and the trick is being able to approach any situation with your ability. For some people, that's hard. For others, it comes really easy. And a very few are deadly and nigh OP with a nen ability that is really simple.
I meant how each character tends to have a very very specific power much like the Stands.
That also applies to stand, really, especially after Part 3 once Araki starts really experimenting with them.
Stands are more creative. Nen is more consistent.
Togashi was probably influenced by both Dragonball and JoJo. Noticeable in YYH and HxH.
Chimera Ant arc is impressive. The initial art in the manga was a mess and even the redrawn art was mediocre at best. It still had a certain charm and it was conveyed well. Anime follows the manga on foot. They could have cut certain parts.
Just goes to show how well done the adaption is. Madhouse are nen users confirmed.
heliosRAzi
Banned
I agree. I was just trying to elaborate on it.
I've only seen up to part 3, but I heard stuff gets crazy.
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