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LTTP: Lost Odyssey - Does it get better after the first disc?

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walking fiend

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Sorry for the bump, but I just finished the first disk and the main plot is rely boring; dreams are much much more interesting. The gameplay is also getting repetitive; will it get more interesting?
 
Like most old school jrpgs it gets a lot better when you start getting more freedom to go where you want. Quite a few optional bosses and areas if I remember right.
 
If the first disc didn't do anything for you, I'm not sure you'll find the rest much better. And yes, the novel part is the most interesting thing about the game.
 
Derrick01 said:
Like most old school jrpgs it gets a lot better when you start getting more freedom to go where you want. Quite a few optional bosses and areas if I remember right.
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Oh, so it will stop being linear? Great!

I just wish there was a more elaborate upgrade mechanism like FF X.

And thx for creating a new thread, thought maybe merely a question doesn't warrant a new thread.
 
walking fiend said:
Sorry for the bump, but I just finished the first disk and the main plot is rely boring; dreams are much much more interesting. The gameplay is also getting repetitive; will it get more interesting?
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If you don't like it now, that's not likely to change. The dreams are the best part. The main story becomes more of a train wreck as it goes along.
 
I feel the plotline gets a little better around the middle of the game but the concluding sections of the narrative ultimately disappointed me greatly. (vague spoilers)
The themes of immortality and issues surrounding it felt oddly resolved, capped off with a "Eternity isn't so bad." utterance.
Also after viewing a number of the short stories, it becomes increasingly bothersome how Kaim in the game felt like a much different character than Kaim in the short stories.

Gameplay wise, it doesn't change a whole lot. You'll get more skills from more characters, and there are points in the game where you are restricted to a certain party which might change strategies somewhat, but by the end of the first disc you've seen most of the battle and progression systems already. There is a neat dungeon I can recall liking quite a bit, however.

Some late game balance issues as well. By the end of the game (once your party is stuck as a group), there really aren't many reasons to /not/ use immortal characters as they leech skills from the mortals and have other bonuses such as an auto-revive.

I think it's a solid game with the more old-school turn-based style, but not without some problems
 
:( LO was one of the reasons I got 360, but seems it's not gonna deliver. So far I would say TLS was at least much more fun as far as gameplay was considered.
 
You should be on the nostalgia train already by that point. But you aren't so I'm going to say it's not going to get much better.
 
I still enjoyed the game for what it was when I played it but that was also back when there were so few tolerable JRPGs available to play (for any system). I don't think it would hold up well for a replay (especially given its length).
 
jb1234 said:
I still enjoyed the game for what it was when I played it but that was also back when there were so few tolerable JRPGs available to play (for any system). I don't think it would hold up well for a replay (especially given its length).
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How long is the game? I am almost ready to give up, but the dreams are so good!

It's not that the game is bad, but it's not that great either. I am playing Valkyrie profile on PSP, and I suspect I will have more fun playing it instead.
 
walking fiend said:
How long is the game? I am almost ready to give up, but the dreams are so good!
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Just youtube them. They're nothing but text and music and have almost nothing to do with the main scenario. All they did for me was make me wish the game we had was what was going on in some of the dreams.
 
Skilletor said:
Just youtube them. They're nothing but text and music and have almost nothing to do with the main scenario. All they did for me was make me wish the game we had was what was going on in some of the dreams.
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I checked Wikipedia once before, and IIRC, someone was credited solely for the dreams; so I suppose they had a separate writer for the main plot.

I doubt you tubing them would really be interesting though.
 
The only good thing that game had going for it was the original trailer where it moved from CG to in engine seamlessly. My jaw dropped when I saw that. And the game only does that one time right at the start to trick you into thinking its going to be cooler than it is
 
walking fiend said:
How long is the game? I am almost ready to give up, but the dreams are so good!

It's not that the game is bad, but it's not that great either. I am playing Valkyrie profile on PSP, and I suspect I will have more fun playing it instead.
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It took me 55 hours, if I recall correctly.
 
It's honestly one of the best games I've played this generation. Definitely don't give up on the first disc. Keep going. Finish that sucker.

Skilletor said:
Just youtube them. They're nothing but text and music and have almost nothing to do with the main scenario. All they did for me was make me wish the game we had was what was going on in some of the dreams.
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Not entirely true. There's quite a bit that crosses over into what actually happens, or is currently happening, in the game, and helps to give you a greater appreciation of everything that you're seeing. It was always a great feeling, in my opinion, to read about stuff, and then to be so absolutely certain that what you're now experiencing in the game is exactly what was talked about in one of the stories. They aren't all entirely disconnected from what's happening in the game's main story. If it hadn't been awhile since I fully read all those stories, I would have so many examples of exactly this.
 
Lost Odyssey is all about those short stories (dreams?).


I remember being pretty blown away at some of them.
 
Thx for the feedback; guess I'll go on a bit further. I just got into the boat, it looks like a toy boat though, not some huge magnificent vessel. Zelda sea navigation, I didn't appreciate you enough.

So that's why the dreams are so good; written by a professional novelist.
 
The game doesn't radically change, if that's what you're looking for. It's not exactly like escaping from Midgar in Final Fantasy VII or anything.
 
I enjoyed it, but then i got to around 3/4 of the game and it was just....slow paced.

I took a 2 day break and havent finished it to this day.

I still want LO2 though.
 
gets better and better. once you have a full party, it's pretty much smooth sailing. awesome moments.
 
Best thing about this game

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I mean... holyshit I still got goosebumps looking at it.
 
It doesn't really get better in quality but it does become naturally better for having more members to manage, more skills, tons of optional quests and seeing new areas. I don't remember in which disk this happens anymore but the story gets more interesting around the time (don't read this OP)
you control the king's son and find out how the big bad guy has killed all the important political figures to gain power, when Kaim meets his daughter and his relatives, and somewhere around disc 3 when you go to that icy looking town
. Story kinda loses impact near the end and it isn't as interesting but at least you do get a satisfying happy ending.

I thought the game was really good at bringing that typical jrpg structure on consoles and keeping the scope/length while being a graphical beauty. But the game felt slow to get into, I kept leaving the game and coming back to it after a while. I might have completed it in around year. Maybe it's the structure that I'm not used to instead of the game because I haven't played many of those very typical jrpg games for a very long time. It is very much a PS1 era type of rpg.
 
Sadly for me the interest for the game ended well before the whole open world thing was available.
I did get to free roam, but it didn't really make things better as the flaws were elsewhere. (general gameplay, dungeons, revive points.. etc.)

In technical side, it's one of the games where flaws of early UE3 ruined a great concept art.
Game would have looked a lot better just with a change of lightmapper to Beast like in Mass Effect and Mirrors Edge.
 
Not really. I found it to be a completely forgettable experience even though I finished pretty much everything including the DLC. Not sure what drove me to spend so much time on it, most likely the lack of proper JRPGs. Nier, Xenoblade and Dark Souls are the JRPGs to go for the generation. Way, WAY better than LO, it's not even funny.
 
The Dreams are the best bit of storywriting this gen. Playing it for that alone is worth it.

Imo the game definitely gets better after the first disc storywise) disc 2 and 3 are quite good', plus the additional characters and skills make for an interesting fighting mechanic.

Not a perfect game, but a solid 8 in my opinion.
 
Hell no. Those two kids are the most cloying pair I've encountered all gen. The game is the definition of unsubtle. No nuance in its storytelling whatsoever. The Dreams stories are nice, but they're so much better written than the actual game dialogue that it feels like we might as well be playing as another character entirely. There was effectively no literary connection between the man in the stories and the one we play as in the game, so distant is the gap in quality.

I did enjoy some of the battle system, and I liked the art direction and music. So due to this, I stuck through it and had an OK time. But it's by no means a good game. Decent at best.
 
Amir0x said:
Hell no. Those two kids are the most cloying pair I've encountered all gen. The game is the definition of unsubtle. No nuance in its storytelling whatsoever. The Dreams stories are nice, but they're so much better written than the actual game dialogue that it feels like we might as well be playing as another character entirely. There was effectively no literary connection between the man in the stories and the one we play as in the game, so distant is the gap in quality.

I did enjoy some of the battle system, and I liked the art direction and music. So due to this, I stuck through it and had an OK time. But it's by no means a good game. Decent at best.
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What!? One of the best games/jrpgs this gen. I'm sorry, but you're out of your mind.
 
The gameplay does get more interesting, the story only mildly so.

The thing about Lost Odyssey is that it has no peaks. The story is one above-average, flat line with occasional rumblings of greatness but no follow-through.
 
jeremy1456 said:
It's better than any of the PS2 Final Fantasy games. Current gen FF games as well.

By a decent margin actually.
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I think so also. I don't think any of the FF games on PS2, particularly FF12, are touching Lost Odyssey.

The best jrpgs this gen have been Xenoblade, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Tales of Vesperia, and I also enjoyed Ni no Kuni, but apparently like none of my friends share my opinion on Ni No Kuni.

Don't think I'm leaving out Persona 3 and 4. Those were incredible, too, but I was more focusing on jrpgs on the newer systems.
 
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