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LTTP: Mass Effect 2

HK-47 said:
Its fairly obvious who you are suppose to pick for certain parts. Only Miranda, Jacob and Grrus can be fire team leader, only Samara or Jack can do the biotic bubble and only Tali, Legion or Kasumi can do the vents.

Miranda can actually be fire team leader even if she isnt loyal.
Hm, I definitely had Jacob doing the Biotic bubble, because I was afraid that person might die and I didn't care about him that much. He survived it though.

Are you saying the ones you listed will survive? That Tali would have survived the end of the vents sequence where Thane got caught?


subversus said:
Why Thane in the vents??? Does he have leet hacking skills?
He functions well in a high-temperature environment! And I figured that whoever went in the vents was probably going to die.
 
You know what? Mass Effect 2 would have been a much better game had it taken place several years later. With a different main character.

I would have loved Shepard as a party member. Or even better, several hundred years dead.

The_Technomancer said:
He functions well in a high-temperature environment! And I figured that whoever went in the vents was probably going to die.

Never crossed your mind that the robot would do just fine?
 
Jerk said:
You know what? Mass Effect 2 would have been a much better game had it taken place several years later. With a different main character.

I would have loved Shepard as a party member. Or even better, several hundred years dead.
I actually agree with this. Would have resolved several major problems with the story, although not the fact that it barely had one.
 
The_Technomancer said:
Hm, I definitely had Jacob doing the Biotic bubble, because I was afraid that person might die and I didn't care about him that much. He survived it though.

Are you saying the ones you listed will survive? That Tali would have survived the end of the vents sequence where Thane got caught?



He functions well in a high-temperature environment! And I figured that whoever went in the vents was probably going to die.

The ones I'm telling you to use will always succeed.
 
HK-47 said:
The ones I'm telling you to use will always succeed.
So its possible to come out with no casualties whatsoever? Well that puts a bit of a damper on things. Jacob was my biotic bubble though, and a different member of the team died. If I had run with Samara, would everyone have made it out?
 
Just finished ME1 & 2 for the second time. This time, I went full paragon, and lost NONE of my teammates. I'm set for ME3.
 
The_Technomancer said:
So its possible to come out with no casualties whatsoever? Well that puts a bit of a damper on things. Jacob was my biotic bubble though, and a different member of the team died. If I had run with Samara, would everyone have made it out?

Yes
 
The_Technomancer said:
So its possible to come out with no casualties whatsoever? Well that puts a bit of a damper on things. Jacob was my biotic bubble though, and a different member of the team died. If I had run with Samara, would everyone have made it out?

Yes, it's possible, and yes the choice of Jacob did lead directly to that death.
 
Fimbulvetr said:
Legion fails to connect to the Geth collective if he dies.

Yeah, but I think that Bioware may bring him back regardless and justify it by saying he backed himself up before going through the relay.
 
Jerk said:
Yeah, but I think that Bioware may bring him back regardless and justify it by saying he backed himself up before going through the relay.
Yeah but think about how sad Legion will be when his new body doesn't have a piece of Shepard's armor strapped on to it for no reason whatsoever.
 
Lostconfused said:
Yeah but think about how sad Legion will be when his new body doesn't have a piece of Shepard's armor strapped on to it for no reason whatsoever.

Oh there was a reason. Its pretty obvious why.
 
I'm currently on my second playthrough of Mass Effect 2 and I've been noticing a number of areas where the game seems to be at cross-purposes. For one thing, for a scenario which is apparently a race against the clock to make sure no more colonies get abducted/the reapers return, gives me bonuses for going on every piddling little personal mission so that my team members can feel emotionally satisfied? It was nice to help Jacob put his father to rest, but in light of the situation it certainly felt peculiar. I guess I should have just been more heartless.

Another problem is the Paragon/Renegade system which punishes the player for not going all one way or the other. It punished me for going with my gut choice about the best way to handle various situations and that seems bad for a role playing game.

Again, Cerberus apparently spends untold sums to revive Shepard, build a better Normandy, and outfit her, yet forces me to scrape up funds in the field in order to buy my own equipment. It might be a fine game play system, but it screams incongruous almost as much as the fact that every team member has a "get mission" and a "loyalty mission." For a game so story based, it was oddly canned. Not to mention how every single female solicited me at the same time. Weird.
 
I've said a lot about Mass Effect 2, but just two things that I've mentioned a lot I'll repeat:

-Hated the way the Shepard death and resurrection was handled. It made for a great CG intro scene, but lacked any weight or meaning beyond BioWare obviously trying to find a way to make the Cerberus angle make sense (and the in-game justification for character customization and respeccing). Everyone just accepts that Cerberus nearly bankrupted itself spending countless billions of credits to bring you back to life. One of the central themes of such story elements in sci-fi (the nature of the self and whether you would be the same person) is handwaved in the first hour as they explain that you're more or less exactly the same as before death, which kind of ruins the whole dramatic impact of dying. The implications of bringing a charred piece of destroyed spacemeat back to life are never discussed.

-The Council's obstinacy went from relatively reasonable in the first game (to the point that Shepard and his allies' grumbling about them nearly seemed like the less rational position) to downright comical. No matter which ending you got in the first game, humanity is now exponentially more influential and powerful in galactic affairs and the idea that they'd ignore tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of colonists being abducted by unstoppable Collectors is baffling. Their sudden turn from the end of ME1 (nearly falling at your feet and apologizing while vowing to work together to stop the Reapers) to the beginning of ME2 (inexplicably changing their minds and denying that the Reapers exist) was jarring and infuriating, and not in the way BioWare intended. Why were they acting like that? A better plot could have explained that in a satisfactory way that gave you insight into their reasoning. In ME2, it's because all politicians are dumb stubborn jerks who do bad things because they personally hate you. It's lowest common denominator writing.
 
Didn't read the whole thread so I'm not sure if this has been covered but...

I have a question for you guys. I've had ME2 in my pile of shame for a long time. I played the first Mass Effect back in the day, but bailed about 3/4 of the way through. And I no longer even have the save on my HDD.

My question is, how crucial is it to play through the first game in order get the impact in the 2nd game? How important is that stuff? I want to play ME2, but I really don't want to slog through #1 again.
 
DidntKnowJack said:
Didn't read the whole thread so I'm not sure if this has been covered but...

I have a question for you guys. I've had ME2 in my pile of shame for a long time. I played the first Mass Effect back in the day, but bailed about 3/4 of the way through. And I no longer even have the save on my HDD.

My question is, how crucial is it to play through the first game in order get the impact in the 2nd game? How important is that stuff? I want to play ME2, but I really don't want to slog through #1 again.

Well I think its important only cause the default choices are mostly retarded IMO. And there are some side quests you might not get cause the default is to just assume you never did them.
 
HK-47 said:
Well I think its important only cause the default choices are mostly retarded IMO. And there are some side quests you might not get cause the default is to just assume you never did them.
You can download save files or get Gibbed's save editor for ME2. Either of those would fix the import issue I think.

The only problem is that Mass Effect just has a better story and a better ending than 2.
 
HK-47 said:
Anything regarding the Collector base will be in ME3. It only changes the color of the star in the background of TIM's room in ME2
Remember when everyone thought saving/sacrificing the Council would be a huge decision from ME to ME2?

Yeah, that's the ME2 Collector Base.
 
Fimbulvetr said:
I can only imagine the fanfics he's been writing.

You no longer need to.

And then Shepard reached into our hole.

"No Shepard, we mustn't. We have not yet reached a consensus."

He remained silent.

And then a lovely smile spread across his ruggedly handsome face as he moaned into our auditory sensor.

"You know you want this."

Suddenly, he thrust his thanix cannon into our armor fissure.

Silence.

And then ten thousand voices screamed in ecstasy.
 
Typographenia said:
That's something that really annoyed me in 2. I would be talking to my crew and then suddenly be confronted with "do you want to sex me or not?!" What?! I thought we were just talking!
Just like real life.
 
Which version of the game did you play?

I pretty much felt the same way you did about the game, but having played the PS3 version, with all of its DLC, I felt like it was at least a more complete sequel (as complete as it could get with everything being gutted)

Having experienced all the DLC like the planet exploration (Hammerhead hover tank), side quests (Normandy 1 crash site, etc..) and side missions (Lair of the Shadow Broker in particular)... imagining ME2's DLC not being in the game makes it feel severly incomplete, when compared to what the first game had to offer


I'm hoping ME3 got delayed so they could have enough time to add in everything.
Bioware should never have released the game without the DLC

This whole "we didn't have time..." or "we want more of your money" DLC bullshit needs to stop.
Especially if your gonna collect it all into the game later for the same price.

Just finish the damn game when its ready.

Vents: Kasumi (The better DLC character)
2nd squad: Garrus
Biotic Bubble: Samara
2nd Squad Garrus:
Crew Escort: Mordin (I manage to save my entire crew from Collectors)

Final Assault: Garrus and Tali (Original Crew members for the win)

0 Casualties
Loyal to Ash

Was pretty much Paragon all the way thru until the last conversation.
...pissed me off so bad I went Renegade on all my dialogue replys lol
 
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