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Lttp: The Last of Us

My game of the generation and game of the year. Best PS3 game hands-down. Everything you said is true, OP, though I am getting tired of slaughtering hundreds of enemies in Naughty Dog's games. I think I had around 300 kills every playthrough, which I find distracting as it makes it seem like Joel is a mass-murderer and regularly kills hundreds of people.
 
Pretty great game. If W101 hadn't come out, Last of Us would definitely be my GOTY, but it's certainly the best game on the HD twins.

And I agree with it having similar resource management to RE2.
Never had to worry about running out of ammo once
.
 
I started my 4th playthrough today after finally finishing GTA V a few days ago. My god, the great, tense combat encounters of this game are in such stark contrast to the boring, repetitive, left trigger, right trigger shoot outs of GTA that it actually shocked me.

GOTYGOTGGOTF
 
Recently started playing this game and it's completely fucking unplayable. Even though it's supposedly been fixed, I'm constantly getting the auto-save glitch and the environments aren't properly rendering, so I can't proceed further into the game. What a fucking mess.
 
It's really hard to choose between TLOU and Beyond: Two Souls for GOTY. Those 2 games were the only ones that glued me to my seat since Uncharted 2. And I still can't stop thinking about them after beating.

Just fucking classic. They're both great fucking games. If I can't decide by the end of this year, I'll just call it a tie.
 
The Last of Us is the Game of the Generation! I mean that with every ounce of my gamer's soul. This game is really something special.
 
Top 10-15 game ever. Presentation is unrivaled, it truly does make similar narrative-based games feel so amateur in comparison, and the gameplay is insanely fun. A pleasure to die and retry new tactics. When I realized I was at the end of the game, I felt intense sadness that there wasn't more, and this was a long game. I guess that's how I can tell a game is truly great, it almost never happens to me that I'm DYING for more after beating one.
 
this will most probably end up as the best game of the generation on various magazines etc.

It sure as hell is my Game of the gen.

nothing even comes close to this amazing experience.
 
Just played this again after GTA5. Man GTA5 shooting is all sorts of terrible compared to this game. Rockstar still has soo much to learn.
 
Sorry to bump this, but does anyone know if they fixed the game bricking phat launch PS3 units?

I use one as my primary and I'm worried it's going to kick the bucket if I start playing.
 
Sorry to bump this, but does anyone know if they fixed the game bricking phat launch PS3 units?

I use one as my primary and I'm worried it's going to kick the bucket if I start playing.

There's no way to fix that. Last of Us uses a lot of CPU/GPU power so it's causing the old Fats to overheat. Most Fats left at this point are bone dry when it comes to thermal paste and the Last of Us is just too much for them to take and it finishes the job.

Unless you value BC, sell that Fat while you can.
 
There's no way to fix that. Last of Us uses a lot of CPU/GPU power so it's causing the old Fats to overheat. Most Fats left at this point are bone dry when it comes to thermal paste and the Last of Us is just too much for them to take and it finishes the job.

Unless you value BC, sell that Fat while you can.

Much appreciated sir, although disappointing.

Probably going to retire my fatty as a PSN-only box in the office with my monitor and move the slim into the living room...
 
There's no way to fix that. Last of Us uses a lot of CPU/GPU power so it's causing the old Fats to overheat. Most Fats left at this point are bone dry when it comes to thermal paste and the Last of Us is just too much for them to take and it finishes the job.

Unless you value BC, sell that Fat while you can.

Very much doubt that. I was scared for the very same reason when it suddenly shut down the first time. Then I changed the thermal paste for a very good one (arctic cooling MX-4) and it still kept doing it randomly (one of the times, the fans were on medium).

If I turn off the ps3 when the "plus" auto updates of game save displays on screen without accepting it, the ps3 turns off with an error and you get a blinking red light. Software can cause those problems too.

I'm kinda thinking it may be a power supply problem. Did anything in terms of power supply change from the fats to the slim units that would cause a sudden shutdown?
 
No, survivor is locked until you beat the game. But it is unlocked by finishing it on any difficulty.

I just took a shower, and was thinking about why I enjoyed TLoU's combat so much, beyond the things I mentioned. The real thing that makes it stand out for me is that I feel like it shares it's sense of game difficulty with my taste.

I don't want to die in a game, it's pointless. All it does it take you out of the experience, and surface what is lost by failing, which is normally the last thirty seconds or whatever. I want to feel like I could die at any minute (and with TLoU's one hit kills, it has that constantly). I want the stress of being in a bad situation, but not the punishment for fucking it up, because it'll just hamper it.

When I approached an encounter in TLoU, I'd get a rough sense of how many people there were, and where to start taking them out, start off stealthy until it kicks off. But inevitably, something would also go wrong, and if I was going to die, I could just reevaluate the encounter, but that's shit, TLoU felt like I had to live with my mistakes, because it wasn't so punishing, I'd die for making them.

That's not to say I didn't die, there were probably ten or so encounters in the game I didn't finish first time, but for the vast majority of that game, it was the perfect situation of everything going to shit, and managing to still escape, even though I'd frequently come out of it with less supplies than I'd be comfortable with, which just rolls that tension on into the next encounter.

I have a real issue with the concept of game difficulties. In my experience, they don't make a game harder, they make it slower (a few exceptions of course, StarCraft 2 for example). It doesn't actually require you to be of greater skill, just more patience. That's the very worst kind of waste a player's time in my opinion.

Great post, and I share your sentiments.

When I play a game, I try to get the best possible outcome. I know it's not the same, but for example, if I get spotted in an MGS game, I kill snake and start all over. In TLoU it's different, and to some extent, getting discoverd is part of the fun. The gameplay shines IMO when it mixes stealth and action on the fly.

I also really love the fact that every encounter, no matter how many enemies you're up against, makes you think. Even if there's only one guy left I'll think how to approach the situation, since I'll do my best to use a minimum amount of ammo \ supplies.
 
The Last of Us is the real deal beyond the hype for sure. The storytelling is comfortably the best that the AAA scene has ever done. Probably by a huge margin. The combat and stuff is still just Good-For-A-Setpiece-Action-Game for me, but I definitely enjoyed it for most of the game(last area or two was tedious). But, yeah, main take away for me is that if these guys or anyone else can come with storytelling this emotive, subtle and mature in next gen then we'll be up for some great games.
 
Just got this game through the Plus sale. Can't get over just how amazing it is. The voice acting, the graphics, the gameplay. Everything is just so good. Truly a work of art. And that opening sequence, my god!!

I'm playing with listen mode off and hard difficulty. It just feels cheesey to me. Anyone else do that?
 
It's pretty good. Didn't floor me mechanically, sort of felt like a chore towards the end, but still the best thing Naughty Dog has done this gen I think. Hats off especially to Neil Druckmann. Hell of a writer.

For some reason my favourite part of the game was the town section with Bill. That was really fun to play and W. Earl Brown's performance as Bill was fantastic.
 
I think its going to be my GOTG. GTA5 came close but after a couple of playthroughs, I just stopped giving a damn and I am seriously burnt out with the game.

TLOU though, I am on my 4th playthrough and I still feel in awe of the game. Never before have I played a game where the run button was hardly ever used. Hell, I hardly ever jogged, just a gentle press on the analogue stick to have a slow walk through this atmospheric world.
 
Is it just me, or is Pittsburgh the best section of the game gameplay wise? I loved that I just moved from open area to open area, from the
bookstore to the hotel and to one of my favorite areas, near the end of Pitt in the arena where Ellie is covering Joel from on top of the scaffold.
I still need to get to the Winter sections again, but I feel like none of the other areas were as open as Pittsburgh and had more freedom gamplay wise. But maybe its just me...
 
So I hate stealth games. I got really fed up with the stealth sections and pretty much gave up on the game. Will the stealth sections eventually stop or should I just skip the game?
 
So I hate stealth games. I got really fed up with the stealth sections and pretty much gave up on the game. Will the stealth sections eventually stop or should I just skip the game?

Stealth is a choice. You can take on the enemy heavy sections of the game plenty of different ways.
 
Biggest issue I had was the story...only because ive read/watched a lot of post apocalyptic material, so the story and encounters are all pretty straight forward. The presentation of the story though was rock solid and very well done. Also the ending was incredibly well done and pretty unique as far as the genre goes.
 
Biggest issue I had was the story...only because ive read/watched a lot of post apocalyptic material, so the story and encounters are all pretty straight forward. The presentation of the story though was rock solid and very well done. Also the ending was incredibly well done and pretty unique as far as the genre goes.

As usual their stories aren't necessarily amazing or unique, they are just exceptionally told.
 
Funny this pops up again. Just finished it last week and was completely blown away by it. Loved the ending, the characters, the entire flow of the game, and what I honestly didn't expect: It's one of the best 3D stealth games this generation.
The only thing that feels kind of game breaking are the dumb auto aim bricks and bottles. Once you get how to exploit them they feel more potent than shotguns and rifles.

Other than that: Joel has pushed Kratos from the top spot for "Biggest dick in a videogame". Man that guy is a prick
, Ellie should have died in his arms just like Sarah to crush the souls of anyone rooting for him.
 
DerZuhälter;88592921 said:
Other than that: Joel has pushed Kratos from the top spot for "Biggest dick in a videogame". Man that guy is a prick
, Ellie should have died in his arms just like Sarah to crush the souls of anyone rooting for him.

This totally depends on your mindset and point of view when playing though. Some saw him as being a dick. Others ended up seeing him as a man willing to do anything in his power to save
his little girl.

I can agree that he was a dick closer to the beginning only because we was looking out for his own skin and that
Ellie reminded him too much of his own daughter and hated the comparison because he wasn't willing to open back up to anyone or anything.
 
DerZuhälter;88592921 said:
Other than that: Joel has pushed Kratos from the top spot for "Biggest dick in a videogame". Man that guy is a prick
, Ellie should have died in his arms just like Sarah to crush the souls of anyone rooting for him.
Not a father yet, are you...

This totally depends on your mindset and point of view when playing though. Some saw him as being a dick. Others ended up seeing him as a man willing to do anything in his power to save
his little girl.
Exactly. Which is perfectly normal, even admirable...
 
I can agree that he was a dick closer to the beginning only because we was looking out for his own skin and that
Ellie reminded him too much of his own daughter and hated the comparison because he wasn't willing to open back up to anyone or anything.

He is a dick in the beginning and the end, though for different reasons.
One shouldn't forget that it wasn't his place to make this choice for Ellie. She wanted to go through with it. That's why he is lying through his teeth in the end. By what he did he acted completely selfish, shitting on Tess' sacrifice, after what all the tiresome shit they went through and what they did.
"It can't be for nothing".
That's exactly what it is though.
Sure one could argue: Why save "humanity" after it has shown it's ugly true face. Bandits, smugglers, looters, murderers, rapists, cannibals, brutal military regimes and terrorists. Are they worth saving or even sacrificing a little girl for? Only for a vaccine, not even a cure. Probably not.

But I guess that's also what makes the ending work.
 
Much appreciated sir, although disappointing.

Probably going to retire my fatty as a PSN-only box in the office with my monitor and move the slim into the living room...

I actually recently played TLoU twice through on my fat PS3, with only one crash. My PS3 did die last year when I was playing Darksiders 2. I sent it into Sony to fix it for $150, though I believe they sent me back a refurbished PS3.

My suggestion would be to backup your harddrive, then try playing the game. If the machine bricks, I would say get it fixed and get a more fresh fat PS3. With the PS2 BC, I say its worth it.
 
So it never ends?

You can stealth - or fight - through the whole game : neither option really ever ends although obviously with a one hit kill foe like Clickers if you're not going stealthy you better be ready to handle them before they can get to you.
 
DerZuhälter;88596431 said:
He is a dick in the beginning and the end, though for different reasons.
One shouldn't forget that it wasn't his place to make this choice for Ellie. She wanted to go through with it. That's why he is lying through his teeth in the end. By what he did he acted completely selfish, shitting on Tess' sacrifice, after what all the tiresome shit they went through and what they did.
"It can't be for nothing".
That's exactly what it is though.
Sure one could argue: Why save "humanity" after it has shown it's ugly true face. Bandits, smugglers, looters, murderers, rapists, cannibals, brutal military regimes and terrorists. Are they worth saving or even sacrificing a little girl for? Only for a vaccine, not even a cure. Probably not.

But I guess that's also what makes the ending work.

Looking at the circumstances it seems like
Ellie was aware that she was going to die and that she may have not even been told or conscious when the decision was made to begin with. Looking at the dialogue before and after it shows she fully expected she'd survive and wasn't told this and given a choice. There is also some of the data logs that help show that there is only a chance that they might be able to create a vaccine and that previous attempts had failed.

The choice made by Joel was selfish, but it doesn't make him a jerk. it makes him a man who will do anything for the girl he has grown to love over the course of a year. If I had to make the same decision, I'd make it a million times over.

Finally, there's the old adage that life is all about the journey, not the destination. Here it applies that in their quest to save humanity, Joel found his through a girl and she found what she was looking for the entire time: someone who wouldn't abandon her. There is so much more going on than the goal of a cure here. The game is way more about their journey and growth than it ever was about finding a cure. That was just the vehicle they used to move the plot forward.

DerZuhälter;88596740 said:
Had no crash on my fat 2nd revision 40GB fat.

Had one crash and one heat warning on my fat 40GB, but it's held up well. That being said, they really pushed the system to its limits.
 
Started playing it finally this weekend. About 6-7 hours in. Great game, definitely the best console game I have played this year. Certainly not my GOTY, but I'm primarily a PC gamer. What I wish a sequel would have is a little more open world. Not totally open world, but more than it is now.
 
I finished The Last of Us just a few days ago. Despite the fact that I'm primarily a Nintendo gamer and that I don't even own a PS3 (I played it at a friend's house), The Last of Us is easily my Game of the Year. It's just utterly phenomenal, a real gem of a game. Nothing this year even comes close.
 
The Sweds are quick to pull the trigger and take pre orders already?

TLOU:2 PS4?

http://cdon.se/spel/the_last_of_us_2-24701553
I very much hope The Last of Us doesn't get a sequel, to be honest. It's just not a game that needs one at all.

If it does have a sequel it would need to be in an entirely different environment. Perhaps a tale of survivors in another country, or several decades down the line from The Last of Us?
 
I had a friend over who just got a PS3, and I forced him to check TLoU. In order for him to get a taste, I fired it up, and he played all the way to the point where you meet (2-3 hours in spoilers)
Ellie.

He had a problem putting it down since he just wanted to know what happens next, and since he didn't know a thing about the game he had no idea about (intro spoilers)
Sarah, and he was shocked and sad that they killed her
.

And I learned that I'm terrible at watching people play. I try not to say anything (and usually I don't), but sometimes it pains me to see people sucking at stealth so much and just going guns blazing. Maybe it's like that on normal, or at the start of the game, but it doesn't punish you at all for playing like that. The NPC's give you ammo \ first-aid kits to keep you going.

I guess it's a good thing, and as long as people are having fun, that's the most important thing.
 
On my third playthrough and just got to Fall... I remember some people saying the game really got good here but I think its a bit of a chore. Not really any memorable encounters or fun open areas like Pittsburgh. Something I would never say in real life, but winter is ten times better...
 
I was LTTP for this game as well, picking it up a couple of weeks ago. After playing it for a couple of hours on the first night, I found myself with no desire to turn it back on. I decided to give it another shot tonight and I think I'm done with it.

The game feels extremely repetitive so far, as you move from one area to another, salvaging as many items as you can and dodging/killing enemies. I'm around
the hotel
level and have no desire to go on. I felt nothing for
Tess when she died
. The only cool part was in the beginning when
your daughter gets shot.

I'm sure there are some good story elements later on, but I just can't get into the game. I realize I'm in the minority here, but the game seemed to feel dreadful as I played it.
 
DerZuhälter;88592921 said:
Funny this pops up again. Just finished it last week and was completely blown away by it. Loved the ending, the characters, the entire flow of the game, and what I honestly didn't expect: It's one of the best 3D stealth games this generation.
The only thing that feels kind of game breaking are the dumb auto aim bricks and bottles. Once you get how to exploit them they feel more potent than shotguns and rifles.

Other than that: Joel has pushed Kratos from the top spot for "Biggest dick in a videogame". Man that guy is a prick
, Ellie should have died in his arms just like Sarah to crush the souls of anyone rooting for him.

The stealth gameplay is superb, especially when dealing with clickers and having a bow and just a handful of arrows.
 
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