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[AmuroChan]

That's when you hound them, or if it's THAT bad, ping them in a public chat so there's a paper trail. It's not a shitty thing to do, but I think in some cases it's important to show that you've done your part. If they drop the ball or slack at all, that's on them.

I do a lot of times, but it is annoying that I HAVE to do that. Like I said, there are pros and cons. WFH is great and I'm very appreciative that I have the option, but I also don't mind having to go into the office a few times a month either. It's nice to go out to lunch or happy hour with my colleagues and actually get to socialize face to face.

 

[MiguelItUp]

I do a lot of times, but it is annoying that I HAVE to do that. Like I said, there are pros and cons. WFH is great and I'm very appreciative that I have the option, but I also don't mind having to go into the office a few times a month either. It's nice to go out to lunch or happy hour with my colleagues and actually get to socialize face to face.

I can imagine, thankfully I haven't had that issue or experience, haha. But you're right, you shouldn't have to, but that person needs a good push from management so that stops. Yeah, the socializing aspect is definitely a nice one, faces to names and all that. That will continue to be the biggest difference, just being in the presence of people, getting to know them, etc. A camera, voice, and chat can only go so far, but it does help bridge the required gaps to ensure work gets done. But much like I said earlier it's definitely a YMMV thing and it's not for everyone at all.

 

[Trilobit]

-Did you hear that they can no longer work from home?
-What?!
-That's inhumane!

 

[simpatico]

If you have to ask… lay them off and hire someone motivated to work there

 

[Magic-DEI-Hire]

I've been working remote for the last 15-20 years and wouldn't trade it for in-office as I'm far more productive when left to my own devices. Simply tell me the goals, give me the proper tools, provide escalation pathways if I need them and I'm set.

If WFH isn't working out for a company, it's either due to the operations being unfeasible (ie. fast food restaurant employees can't work remotely), a failing due to incompetent management (which happens far more than people want to admit), or a lack of skills amongst team members where they are not best suited to remote work. Blaming the modality of work because of someone's lack of drive and capabilities is asinine. The method of work isn't the issue, point blank.

 

[OLED_Gamer]

-Did you hear that they can no longer work from home?
-What?!
-That's inhumane!

 

[Moriarty1889]

Whp would have thought work from home wouldnt work in the long run ? Time to get to work you lazy cunts.

Exactly. Lazy entitled cunts to put it properly.

 

[ThroatPie]

A little social interaction won't hurt the blue haired community. If they go back to the office they'd be able to help each other organize their meds.

 

[Magic-DEI-Hire]

Exactly. Lazy entitled cunts to put it properly.

A little social interaction won't hurt the blue haired community. If they go back to the office they'd be able to help each other organize their meds.

Why is remote work equated with laziness and politics? The level of projection is ridiculous.

 

[Ronin_7]

Good. Work from home has largely been a disaster for society. For every 1 person that can handle it, 10 slack off.

Unfortunately this is actually true.

Working From Home requires discipline and organization, i work better from my Home setup but I'm basically workaholic.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

A little social interaction won't hurt the blue haired community. If they go back to the office they'd be able to help each other organize their meds.

Or plan a protest

 

[ThroatPie]

Why is remote work equated with laziness and politics? The level of projection is ridiculous.

Unfortunately, I work with some of these people, and they are borderline useless. This is in healthcare, and they range from techs to nurses to Doctors. The whiniest, self-centered, "pity me" people I have ever experienced in my life. And this is with an actual, meaningful job where people's lives are on the line in some cases. Shit went downhill fast in twenty years when we started hiring every bum off the street with nose piercings, multicolored hair, and the need to spew politics every five seconds.

This isn't work from home, but if they can't do their job while being supervised in a professional setting, that leads me to believe they can't do it effectively when they are alone.

First-hand experience with these people doesn't leave a good impression. Maybe you have a different view of things, and if so, good.

 

[nemiroff]

I'm too popular to be able to work in peace in the office. Everytime I go there people swarm me as if they haven't seen me in ages

 

[Magic-DEI-Hire]

Unfortunately, I work with some of these people, and they are borderline useless. This is in healthcare, and they range from techs to nurses to Doctors. The whiniest, self-centered, "pity me" people I have ever experienced in my life. And this is with an actual, meaningful job where people's lives are on the line in some cases. Shit went downhill fast in twenty years when we started hiring every bum off the street with nose piercings, multicolored hair, and the need to spew politics every five seconds.

This isn't work from home, but if they can't do their job while being supervised in a professional setting, that leads me to believe they can't do it effectively when they are alone.

First-hand experience with these people doesn't leave a good impression. Maybe you have a different view of things, and if so, good.

There's certainly no excuse for their behavior, especially in healthcare. Certainly you can see however that the issue is with the skills/qualifications of the workers (ie. Hiring practices) and the management that allows it to happen. A remote work environment does not necessarily equal those things.

 

[hussar16]

Because for everyone 1 person who can handle it, 10 others fuck it up and slack off.

Not only slack off but when ur job is making a collective product not indivuald work land then the product become shit.look at ubisoft .outsource nostalgia if not all of their workload then try to glue it all together and game is slop

 

[hussar16]

I've been working remote for the last 15-20 years and wouldn't trade it for in-office as I'm far more productive when left to my own devices. Simply tell me the goals, give me the proper tools, provide escalation pathways if I need them and I'm set.

If WFH isn't working out for a company, it's either due to the operations being unfeasible (ie. fast food restaurant employees can't work remotely), a failing due to incompetent management (which happens far more than people want to admit), or a lack of skills amongst team members where they are not best suited to remote work. Blaming the modality of work because of someone's lack of drive and capabilities is asinine. The method of work isn't the issue, point blank.

I disagree. It works for u but then 10 others slack off and also if your not working on a collective product then wfh can work but this is a collective product where all hands have to work on 1 thing. It simply does not work wfh for video game work. Its why we get ubsifot slop

 

[Magic-DEI-Hire]

I disagree. It works for u but then 10 others slack off and also if your not working on a collective product then wfh can work but this is a collective product where all hands have to work on 1 thing. It simply does not work wfh for video game work. Its why we get ubsifot slop

See my earlier reply (#114):

"The issue is with the skills/qualifications of the workers (ie. Hiring practices) and the management that allows it to happen. A remote work environment does not necessarily equal those things."

 

[phant0m]

Wow, the anti-WFH sentiment on here is strong.

Wife and I have been working from home for over 10 years now. We can't imagine going back into an office.

I can understand that it's not for everyone, though.

Seriously lol. And the sentiment I heard across the board during 2020/2021 was "how well everyone was adapting" and "little to no loss in productivity".

And any productivity loss is EASILY made up for by the company not paying for office space/power/cleaning services/etc.

Anyway, I WFH 2 days a week pre-pandemic and have been full remote since. Offices can kick rocks.

Surprised at how many corpo bootlickers are here, must be people that have been RTO for awhile or work retail/food service? Multiple studies have shown that RTO hasn't improved productivity and just creates a flight risk for high-performing employees.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

i can tell you people who are anti wfh, are probably those that are forced to work in office keklol

im enjoying my wfh hybrid life.

These anti wfh people seems to forget that wfh actually saves you hours of transportation which you can use for productivity.

If WFH is so productive, then all the recent games should be released on time with best quality ever in gaming history.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Surprised at how many corpo bootlickers are here, must be people that have been RTO for awhile or work retail/food service? Multiple studies have shown that RTO hasn't improved productivity and just creates a flight risk for high-performing employees.

The highest performing and paid employees are going to be managerial jobs. They are most skewed to RTO.

All anti-RTO does is gimp your career as a CLM (career limiting move) where you'll always be bossed around and be viewed as someone who wants to always fly under the radar. Not a good career move.

 

[phant0m]

Whp would of thought work from home wouldnt work in the long run ? Time to get to work you lazy cunts.

Exactly. Lazy entitled cunts to put it properly.

I disagree. It works for u but then 10 others slack off and also if your not working on a collective product then wfh can work but this is a collective product where all hands have to work on 1 thing. It simply does not work wfh for video game work. Its why we get ubsifot slop

Newsflash, you clearly haven't spent time in an actual corporate office: slackers slack just as well in office as at home. Dare I say it's even easier in the office because you can cruise by your buddy's cube, pop in the breakroom or find other ways to BS around that get overlooked because you're "badged in"

If your main argument is productivity, just stop:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/curtsteinhorst/2025/04/17/return-to-office-its-not-about-productivity-its-about-power/

7 Data-Backed Facts About Return to Office | Visier

New Visier research shows flexible return-to-office policies boost retention, while mandates increase turnover and recruitment challenges.

www.visier.com

The Data Is In: Return-to-Office Mandates Aren’t Worth the Talent Risks

Nearly three-quarters of executives say return-to-office (RTO) mandates are a source of leadership conflict. Lack of work-life balance ranks among the top five reasons employees quit.

futureofhr.eu

 

[phant0m]

The highest performing and paid employees are going to be managerial jobs. They are most skewed to RTO.

All anti-RTO does is gimp your career as a CLM (career limiting move) where you'll always be bossed around and be viewed as someone who wants to always fly under the radar. Not a good career move.

Completely false. I've worked hybrid/RTO for 2 different companies and have gotten consistent high performance reviews and promotions. I've worked for senior leaders and executives that are remote. One of my mentors who had worked full time remote for Microsoft just left and accepted a new role as director of PM for another company, his package is $600k

RTO is dogshit, why do you like the boot so much? The problem generally is poor management/leadership that don't want to deal with actually managing poorly performing employees out.

 

[phant0m]

i can tell you people who are anti wfh, are probably those that are forced to work in office keklol

im enjoying my wfh hybrid life.

These anti wfh people seems to forget that wfh actually saves you hours of transportation which you can use for productivity.

It's gotta be. Never seen so many corpo bootlickers come out of the woodwork

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Completely false. I've worked hybrid/RTO for 2 different companies and have gotten consistent high performance reviews and promotions. I've worked for senior leaders and executives that are remote. One of my mentors who had worked full time remote for Microsoft just left and accepted a new role as director of PM for another company, his package is $600k

RTO is dogshit, why do you like the boot so much? The problem generally is poor management/leadership that don't want to deal with actually managing poorly performing employees out.

And end of day, there's going to be more RTO managers than non-managers. And managerial jobs pay more than their subordinates. So career wise you'll limit yourself.

I like RTO because I like talking to people face to face, enjoy getting out of the house not being a hermit, and doing work at the office docked up to the servers direct is way faster and more stable than VPN-ing from home on wifi. I can always get hold of people at the office easier because they are there in person working same hours so I dont have to chase them online. And being in online meetings, myself and others dont have to worry about tech issues or people speaking louder and closer to the mic.

But there are perks to WFH. I can sleep in, work in a tshirt and sweatpants and at anytime I can go grocery shopping not responsing to people until I feel like it. Or do what one guy did online..... sounded like he was vaccuuming his rug, so the host had to tell whomever was online to mute their mic like a child. So in essence, if they arent going to pay attention then at least go on mute.

 

[DAHGAMING]

Newsflash, you clearly haven't spent time in an actual corporate office: slackers slack just as well in office as at home. Dare I say it's even easier in the office because you can cruise by your buddy's cube, pop in the breakroom or find other ways to BS around that get overlooked because you're "badged in"

If your main argument is productivity, just stop:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/curtsteinhorst/2025/04/17/return-to-office-its-not-about-productivity-its-about-power/

7 Data-Backed Facts About Return to Office | Visier

New Visier research shows flexible return-to-office policies boost retention, while mandates increase turnover and recruitment challenges.

www.visier.com

The Data Is In: Return-to-Office Mandates Aren’t Worth the Talent Risks

Nearly three-quarters of executives say return-to-office (RTO) mandates are a source of leadership conflict. Lack of work-life balance ranks among the top five reasons employees quit.

futureofhr.eu

Newsflash, you clearly haven't spent time in an actual corporate office: slackers slack just as well in office as at home. Dare I say it's even easier in the office because you can cruise by your buddy's cube, pop in the breakroom or find other ways to BS around that get overlooked because you're "badged in"

If your main argument is productivity, just stop:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/curtsteinhorst/2025/04/17/return-to-office-its-not-about-productivity-its-about-power/

7 Data-Backed Facts About Return to Office | Visier

New Visier research shows flexible return-to-office policies boost retention, while mandates increase turnover and recruitment challenges.

www.visier.com

The Data Is In: Return-to-Office Mandates Aren’t Worth the Talent Risks

Nearly three-quarters of executives say return-to-office (RTO) mandates are a source of leadership conflict. Lack of work-life balance ranks among the top five reasons employees quit.

futureofhr.eu

Stop being lazy bruv, get back to work

 

[phant0m]

And end of day, there's going to be more RTO managers than non-managers. And managerial jobs pay more than their subordinates. So career wise you'll limit yourself.

I like RTO because I like talking to people face to face, enjoy getting out of the house not being a hermit, and doing work at the office docked up to the servers direct is way faster and more stable than VPN-ing from home on wifi. I can always get hold of people at the office easier because they are there in person working same hours so I dont have to chase them online. And being in online meetings, myself and others dont have to worry about tech issues or people speaking louder and closer to the mic.

But there are perks to WFH. I can sleep in, work in a tshirt and sweatpants and at anytime I can go grocery shopping not responsing to people until I feel like it. Or do what one guy did online..... sounded like he was vaccuuming his rug, so the host had to tell whomever was online to mute their mic like a child. So in essence, if they arent going to pay attention then at least go on mute.

My last 4 bosses have been fully remote, but go off I guess

Agree on the reasons for liking RTO - when you spend day in and day out in your house it can definitely get stir crazy. I'm a fan of hybrid/flexible policies that give you 2-3 days a week to WFH and the rest in office

Unfortunately most places are taking hardline stance of 'full' (5 days a week) RTO

 

[StreetsofBeige]

My last 4 bosses have been fully remote, but go off I guess

Agree on the reasons for liking RTO - when you spend day in and day out in your house it can definitely get stir crazy. I'm a fan of hybrid/flexible policies that give you 2-3 days a week to WFH and the rest in office

Unfortunately most places are taking hardline stance of 'full' (5 days a week) RTO

A key reason why places go hard on covid wfh, or back to the office is to make it easy to understand rules that apply to all.

So if someone is a great wfh worker, he gets to wfh but another guy who does worse has to come to the office? What metric determines yes or no? Does every boss or job role have to have the same qualification metrics to be allowed?

A team has 10 people. 3 people are allowed to wfh. 7 arent. Same boss and jobs. So that means the 7 people everyone sees must be crappy workers because they arent allowed?

What if somehow who is allowed to wfh is asked to come to the office that week because there's important stuff going on and the boss wants you to meet new coworkers face to face so the newbies arent alone trying to contact people on MS Teams - people they wont even know who or where to go since they are invisible behind a screen - does the wfh person tell the boss Go F Yourself I'm a wfh worker now?

 

[CuteFaceJay]

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[lh032]

If WFH is so productive, then all the recent games should be released on time with best quality ever in gaming history.

i dont think working in office is going to change that. games just takes longer to make as it gets more complicated.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Newsflash, you clearly haven't spent time in an actual corporate office: slackers slack just as well in office as at home. Dare I say it's even easier in the office because you can cruise by your buddy's cube, pop in the breakroom or find other ways to BS around that get overlooked because you're "badged in"

If your main argument is productivity, just stop:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/curtsteinhorst/2025/04/17/return-to-office-its-not-about-productivity-its-about-power/

7 Data-Backed Facts About Return to Office | Visier

New Visier research shows flexible return-to-office policies boost retention, while mandates increase turnover and recruitment challenges.

www.visier.com

The Data Is In: Return-to-Office Mandates Aren’t Worth the Talent Risks

Nearly three-quarters of executives say return-to-office (RTO) mandates are a source of leadership conflict. Lack of work-life balance ranks among the top five reasons employees quit.

futureofhr.eu

Do people use home gyms more often than they use a Planet Fitness?

 

[Demigod Mac]

Working in the office is objectively worse than WFH for me. Been RTO'd since last spring, but most of my team and the corp is spread out across the US, so we still have to have team meetings via video conference: in small, cramped meeting pods which there aren't enough of, so a lot of people are on headsets and speaking aloud in the borderless open desk campus, which is noisy and distracting. Utterly pointless other than being a cheap way to make people self-layoff without having to pay them severance. Corpos should at least make WFH a perk for high performers.

 

[MiguelItUp]

Do people use home gyms more often than they use a Planet Fitness?

Ever since Covid we made a home gym for obvious reasons, then we just kind of stuck to it. I was worried it would affect me negatively doing it from home, but nah, it's been great. Even more so since we bought a house and turned the garage into a gym. Sometimes I do miss going to a gym outside of the house. But, it's been nice saving money and not waiting on people to finish their sets on equipment, lol.

One of my previous studio gigs (that was not remote, lol) had an awesome perk that gave employees a HUGE discount at an extremely nice gym in the area, it was so nice. They also allowed folks to take a bit of a longer lunch if they had planned to go to the gym during their break. I miss that, lol.

 

[FalconPunch]

This is just a way to lay people off without having to pay severance. A portion of those working from home will be unable to return back to the office.

 

[FalconPunch]

Because for everyone 1 person who can handle it, 10 others fuck it up and slack off.

When I make up stats without any evidence to support it. Can you provide a source for this claim? We will wait.

 

[EDMIX]

As much as people like to exaggerate this work from home did not start from covid you may have saw increase of it from that, but it has existed for a long time.

I have personally been working from home in IT for well over 13 plus years.

So as a Project Manager I saw first-hand a lot of the people who were working from home are just as productive if not more

Many of you are not factoring that from a productivity standpoint you now have individuals that do not need to drive to A physical location so they are rarely late, There is no flat tire or car accident that is preventing them from working , Even when they are sick they are still able to work because many times somebody who calls out sick from a physical workplace many times it's not because they cannot work, it's because they are contagious around the people that can work...

Also in software this is something in which rarely anyone actually needs to physically be in contact with anyone....

I literally work in a company that is leading the industry in our area and we are exclusively work from home and the benefit of this is we not only have an extremely strong retention rate but we could get any talent all over the world at any time to join our team..

As a project manager a lot of my days are spent with zoom calls with different businesses or my employees and nothing has changed regarding calculating metrics someone working from home still fucking actually needs to work so where anyone got this weird idea of being lazy or somebody is doing less work is beyond me. It doesn't even make any sense because ultimately your job remains the same in software your timeline and deadlines still remain the same.

So I have nothing against machine games looking to have more stuff work in the office as it's their business and if they want that human connection with their teams more power to them. I actually think if they want to boost morale the greatest way to do this is to allow those who want to work in the office to choose to do so in those who wish to work from home to allow them because this means all the people who want to work in the fucking places they wish to work will be more happier and productive working the way they are more accustomed to.

And anyone who is worried about people who "slack off" needs to understand that is a character trait, the person that will slack off working from home is the same person that would lie about why they couldn't physically go into work, Would slack off when they're physically on the job when the manager is not around, If you have to hover over someone's fucking shoulder for them to work it doesn't sound like sound like they're a person that needs to work at the company..


So any of you who think that's a real thing or some cheat code or loop hole, I need you to know that metrics matter and WFH does not fucking mean magically there's 0 accountability for the actual work that needs to be done, I don't know where this fucking myth came from but it sounds like it's from people who have not actually managed those companies...=)

 

[FalconPunch]

Why is remote work equated with laziness and politics? The level of projection is ridiculous.

It's not laziness, it's misery loves company that's on display. What we're seeing here is a bunch of people who either chose the wrong profession or didn't study hard enough for this to be an option.

Now they see others enjoying benefits they don't have access to and they're mad salty. That's all it is. Salty people who want others to suffer with the same sub optimal working conditions as themselves.

If you're in any major metropolitan city and you wfh, you're essentially getting at least 2 hours of your life back a day due to the lack of a commute.

The sad part is that most people don't realize that the reason there's a huge push to get workers back into the office is not due to productivity but instead, huge commercial real estate investments that will collapse and torpedo the economy.

If these commercial units are under utilized, the math no longer works and there will be a huge wave of defaults.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

As much as people like to exaggerate this work from home did not start from covid you may have saw increase of it from that, but it has existed for a long time.

I have personally been working from home in IT for well over 13 plus years.

So as a Project Manager I saw first-hand a lot of the people who were working from home are just as productive if not more

Many of you are not factoring that from a productivity standpoint you now have individuals that do not need to drive to A physical location so they are rarely late, There is no flat tire or car accident that is preventing them from working , Even when they are sick they are still able to work because many times somebody who calls out sick from a physical workplace many times it's not because they cannot work, it's because they are contagious around the people that can work...

Also in software this is something in which rarely anyone actually needs to physically be in contact with anyone....

I literally work in a company that is leading the industry in our area and we are exclusively work from home and the benefit of this is we not only have an extremely strong retention rate but we could get any talent all over the world at any time to join our team..

As a project manager a lot of my days are spent with zoom calls with different businesses or my employees and nothing has changed regarding calculating metrics someone working from home still fucking actually needs to work so where anyone got this weird idea of being lazy or somebody is doing less work is beyond me. It doesn't even make any sense because ultimately your job remains the same in software your timeline and deadlines still remain the same.

So I have nothing against machine games looking to have more stuff work in the office as it's their business and if they want that human connection with their teams more power to them. I actually think if they want to boost morale the greatest way to do this is to allow those who want to work in the office to choose to do so in those who wish to work from home to allow them because this means all the people who want to work in the fucking places they wish to work will be more happier and productive working the way they are more accustomed to.

And anyone who is worried about people who "slack off" needs to understand that is a character trait, the person that will slack off working from home is the same person that would lie about why they couldn't physically go into work, Would slack off when they're physically on the job when the manager is not around, If you have to hover over someone's fucking shoulder for them to work it doesn't sound like sound like they're a person that needs to work at the company..


So any of you who think that's a real thing or some cheat code or loop hole, I need you to know that metrics matter and WFH does not fucking mean magically there's 0 accountability for the actual work that needs to be done, I don't know where this fucking myth came from but it sounds like it's from people who have not actually managed those companies...=)

Why don't massive publishers like PlayStation and Microsoft build WFH studios? Wouldn't they prefer saving on cost and getting more efficient employees?

Why is a place built for work equally as effective as a place built to live?

 

[LyricalShrike]

The highest performing and paid employees are going to be managerial jobs. They are most skewed to RTO.

All anti-RTO does is gimp your career as a CLM (career limiting move) where you'll always be bossed around and be viewed as someone who wants to always fly under the radar. Not a good career move.

I work in bleeding edge tech. Over a decade of remote working hasn't affected my career at all. Home vs Office is a matter of preference for productive people with good work habits. My coworkers and I collaborate using digital notebooks, whiteboards, and chat tools. We would be indistinguishable from the teams that work in the office if you judged us from our project artifacts and deliverables.

The quiet part of RTO being a method for soft layoffs is true. Resignations are cheaper and generate less publicity than layoffs. WFH made it easier to identify non-productive staff. Hiding in a productive team doing busywork is harder when you can't float around an office merely being present.

 

[phant0m]

Do people use home gyms more often than they use a Planet Fitness?

Chances of me going to the basement and getting on the peloton are about 15% on any given day

Chance of me getting in the car to drive to a gym are 0% forever

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Chances of me going to the basement and getting on the peloton are about 15% on any given day

Chance of me getting in the car to drive to a gym are 0% forever

Chances of you getting in the car to drive to work are 97%

97% > 15%

 

[Lord Panda]

I go into the office maybe once a month just to make sure my desk hasn't been raided or reassigned, and to socialise a bit.

Otherwise, WFH is miles better, especially as a parent. I spend far less time on commute bullshit and far more time on things that actually matter, like being with the kids. I'm easily more productive at home, and a lot of the time the team and I end up starting early or working late into the night.

The irony is that while WFH improves life in many ways, it can also blur the work–life boundary. We've pushed a shitload more commits than we ever did in the office, often at completely unhinged hours, and it became genuinely hard to switch off. I had my first-ever burnout episode while WFH from burning the midnight oil for too long.

People who slack off at home will slack off in the office too, except in the office they also impose on everyone else trying to get work done. This is fundamentally a management issue, not a location issue.

Here in Australia, the Business Council keeps pushing for a return to the office, mostly because their commercial landlord mates want to protect their lease income, while cost-of-living pressures, transport congestion, and the housing mess get worse by the day. Sorry-not-sorry, but WFH just generally makes more sense for everyone - and it's only ever ruined by the same retards who would slack off anywhere.

 

[phant0m]

Chances of you getting in the car to drive to work are 97%

97% > 15%

negative, I wfh

 

[EDMIX]

Why don't massive publishers like PlayStation and Microsoft build WFH studios? Wouldn't they prefer saving on cost and getting more efficient employees?

Why is a place built for work equally as effective as a place built to live?

They may already have long standing contracts with buildings, but many positions at Sony and MS are WFH, I don't know about an entire studio though lol Lots of small indies studios have members all of the the world btw. I think something like WFH will continue with smaller, newer studios that may not have the luxury of huge spaces like commercial real estate.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

Its crazy how in just 5 years, people are ready to cause riots because you are expected to be in the office that pays you your salary. Take a glance on r/remotework on Reddit. Nothing but complaining how their boss told them they have to be there more than 1 day a week. Funny how nobody decides to quit though.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Our socialist heroes have been confronted with reality.

This is such a shitty, shitty take that can only be born in "live to work" American mind.
Covid-19 showed working partly remotely is feasible, all companies mandating return to office are unable to produce any data showing otherwise.
At least one day a week at home allow people to do way more admin things, which makes them better workers and is beneficial for their mental health.

So instead of treating people like cattle how about management steps the fuck up and figures things out? That's why they are getting paid millions for.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

I go into the office maybe once a month just to make sure my desk hasn't been raided or reassigned, and to socialise a bit.

Otherwise, WFH is miles better, especially as a parent. I spend far less time on commute bullshit and far more time on things that actually matter, like being with the kids. I'm easily more productive at home, and a lot of the time the team and I end up starting early or working late into the night.

The irony is that while WFH improves life in many ways, it can also blur the work–life boundary. We've pushed a shitload more commits than we ever did in the office, often at completely unhinged hours, and it became genuinely hard to switch off. I had my first-ever burnout episode while WFH from burning the midnight oil for too long.

People who slack off at home will slack off in the office too, except in the office they also impose on everyone else trying to get work done. This is fundamentally a management issue, not a location issue.

Here in Australia, the Business Council keeps pushing for a return to the office, mostly because their commercial landlord mates want to protect their lease income, while cost-of-living pressures, transport congestion, and the housing mess get worse by the day. Sorry-not-sorry, but WFH just generally makes more sense for everyone - and it's only ever ruined by the same retards who would slack off anywhere.

At an office space, you wont be allowed to browse your instagram or put on a movie on an external screen while working on your laptop. Sure people slack anywhere but they cant slack as much as they can from home. I work hybrid and I enjoy it but at the same time, I would go nuts if I didnt go in the office 2 times a week to socialize. Cant even imagine being in the house all day long for months by myself. At the end of the day us workers will say WFH is better but the hire ups have metrics since Covid. If it says the work output is worse, it means WFH doesnt work for that company.

I got awesome colleagues but there are some known people that when its WFH days, somehow their internet always goes down, they didnt know they turned off notifications, they have this "emergency" etc. That would nto fly in the office. As someone already said, that desk that you come to visit once in 2 months, someone is paying crazy money for that office space to collect dust. Mostly its multi year contracts. My last company was doing 10+ year contracts on building rental space.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

They may already have long standing contracts with buildings

This + top management is delusional with often either wife not working and taking care of kids or them having a nanny and coming home at 9pm to say goodnight to kids, both of which vast majority of the workforce cannot do.

 

[Boy bawang]

I'm convinced that this forum is filled with micro managers scared to death by WFH as it shows how disposable they are

 

[Ryseer]

Good. Work from home has largely been a disaster for society. For every 1 person that can handle it, 10 slack off.

80/20 rule no doubt.

 

[hussar16]

See my earlier reply (#114):

"The issue is with the skills/qualifications of the workers (ie. Hiring practices) and the management that allows it to happen. A remote work environment does not necessarily equal those things."

No u cant make a good product by yourself when the product is a collective product. Its difrent things comepeltly