Slurpy said:I don't know much about unlocking phones- but theoretically, wouldnt this be easy and possible once they are out? Lets assume I dont care about the visual voice-mail thing.
Unlocking phones are only possible when the unlock codes leak out or somebody with damn good luck guesses it. I really doubt Apple will let the unlock codes leak when they were able to keep the iPhone secret for 2+ years.Slurpy said:I don't know much about unlocking phones- but theoretically, wouldnt this be easy and possible once they are out? Lets assume I dont care about the visual voice-mail thing.
empanada said:Unlocking phones are only possible when the unlock codes leak out or somebody with damn good luck guesses it. I really doubt Apple will let the unlock codes leak when they were able to keep the iPhone secret for 2+ years.
Besides, will this even have SIM cards? It seems there's no way to easily open the phone (the battery can't be replaced like the iPods)...
mrkgoo said:It was said to have a sim card slot, so I imagine the battery cover comes off. As a phone, people will want to carry spare batteries.
Also, something that doesn't seem to get much mention, but didn't steve mention a 3G version was in the works?
xsarien said:He didn't, but the rumor mill is churning with talk, but what else is new?
btrboyev said:well...when? in two years? It would have been smarter to use more than one carrier. Not everybody wants to switch networks when something is working for them. It limits apples market as far as I'm concerned.
White Man said:They probably really had no choice about using multiple carriers. Apple wanted to break into a market it wasn't in previously, and to do so, it needed the help of somebody already inside. I'd wager that whatever deal they made with Cingular is for more than a year, too, because you'd have to be an idiot to realize that this won't be stuffing a ton of cash in the pockets of everyone involved.
Crazymoogle said:In the US, Cingular exclusive through the end of 2009.
mrkgoo said:It was said to have a sim card slot, so I imagine the battery cover comes off. As a phone, people will want to carry spare batteries.
Also, something that doesn't seem to get much mention, but didn't steve mention a 3G version was in the works?
If you just cant wait to buy an iPhone from another cellular carrier, like T-Mobile, Cingular has a message for you: youll be waiting a long time, my friend.
Cingulars exclusive rights to sell Apples new iPhone is a multi-year agreement in the U.S., said Glenn Lurie, Cingulars president of national distribution, in a press conference today at CES. The agreement also includes future models which will be introduced soon.
And if youre thinking of buying the iPhone through Cingular and then using it on another GSM network, you might want to reconsider. Both Apple and Cingular will sell the phone as a locked device. Even though it uses the GSM standard, it wont work on other GSM systems.
Hackers have made the unlocking of locked phones a cottage industry, but Cingular says that that wont be so easy with the iPhone. If the iPhone gets hacked and unlocked, weve thought through what our next steps will be, Glenn Lurie said.
As for price, Cingular thinks the $500 initial cost wont be a barrier to sales. The total cost of an iPod, cell phone, and PDA is just about the same.
shantyman said:Forget unlocking.
If the iPhone gets hacked and unlocked, weve thought through what our next steps will be, Glenn Lurie said.
macrumors.com said:According to MarketWatch.com, financial analysts and legal experts are expecting Apple's iPhone trademark dispute with Cisco to be resolved quickly, citing claims from Cisco that a deal was close before the lawsuit was filed.
"We expect an amicable resolution," Prudential Securities analyst Inder Singh wrote in a note to clients Thursday. "The most likely outcome, in our opinion, is for Cisco to be a net recipient of financial payment from Apple for use of the name."
Apple "has until May to sort this out and then ramp up marketing, so there is time," said Gene Munster, an Apple analyst with Piper Jaffray.
Brian Banner, an intellectual property attorney for Rothwell Figg expects both companies to be able to use the iPhone mark, using corporate branding as one method of sufficiently differentiating the devices.
"Cisco could easily use the iPhone mark accompanied by its logo, and Apple could add the Apple logo"
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SteveMeister said:Sad thing is, some folks will still think that's real
acr0nym said:
Nick said:I swear I just saw jinx pass by me at MacWorld. Cosmic.
Shogmaster said:The thing for me is that I wish I rather got a higher capacity HDD iPod video with the formfactor and UI of the iPhone. My gut feelings say iPhone is rather PSP like overdone effort.
Huh? It has an on-screen keyboard for entering URLs. You navigate by touch. Watch a video or something before you post.Scalemail Ted said:Wait... how do you surf the internet without a keypad? all touch screen? ick.
sounds like bullshit.lessthanthree said:Apparantly it's renamed to iTouch Mobile according to this AP article that just went up....
http://associatedpress.newsvine.com/_news/2007/01/12/517473-apple-renames-iphone-to-itouch-mobile
Terrible name...
Yeah, I dunno. Saw it in the Upcoming Stories section of Digg, and it's weird that nowhere else has posted it yet.Hyoushi said:sounds like bullshit.
ckohler said:Huh? It has an on-screen keyboard for entering URLs. You navigate by touch. Watch a video or something before you post.
1. Newsvine is a blog.lessthanthree said:Yeah, I dunno. Saw it in the Upcoming Stories section of Digg, and it's weird that nowhere else has posted it yet.
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uh. the keyboard is only there when you enter text. once you're done, it disappears.Scalemail Ted said:No i understand. You share your screen real estate with an on screen keyboard. And i repeat that this setup is gimped. a slide out alpha numeric keypad would be much more functional for browsing.
Hyoushi said:uh. the keyboard is only there when you enter text. once you're done, it disappears.
Quick, send this to IGN!!!SteveMeister said:Sad thing is, some folks will still think that's real
The device is not currently compatible with the faster 3G wireless data networks that are driving cellular revenues to sharp gains in the United States (although several Apple insiders said the phone could be upgraded to 3G with software if Apple later decides to enable that feature).
shantyman said:Possible Good news:
From NY Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/12/t...dd858350d&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
probably not - http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/iphone-might-have-3g-switched-on-via-upgrade-probably-not/shantyman said:Possible Good news:
From NY Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/12/t...dd858350d&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
this is different than Apple crippling their draft-N wifi in their laptops - there's no reason for Apple to put in technology and not offer some type of acknowledgment or part-way use of it.Believe us, by this point we're all feeling a little weary of all the mega-intense iPhone news/drama/speculation that's been going around these past few days, but we couldn't help but remark on John Markoff's comment in the New York Times yesterday that Apple could possibly add 3G to the iPhone via a software update. It's not unheard of for a firmware upgrade to unlock new features or functionality in a device, but the sources we've spoken to have made it pretty clear that Apple hasn't wedged a UMTS or HSDPA radio into this thing. Not that we wouldn't mind this being true. We're pretty bummed that the iPhone doesn't have HSDPA -- once you taste 3G, it's hard to go back to anything slower -- but it's semi-understandable that they'd want to use an EDGE radio that'd cost less and be less power hungry. Or at least that seems to be the prevailing theory, Jobsy hasn't exactly come out and said why a high-end handset that's due out in mid-2007 will be a generation behind in its wireless connectivity.
scorcho said:probably not - http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/12/iphone-might-have-3g-switched-on-via-upgrade-probably-not/
this is different than Apple crippling their draft-N wifi in their laptops - there's no reason for Apple to put in technology and not offer some type of acknowledgment or part-way use of it.
He did.mrkgoo said:I think Steve Job himself said future models may include 3G - I'm sure he threw it in passing during his keynote.
Nick said:I'm not getting an iPhone right away. Anyone whose ever used EDGE before knows it's the worst thing in the world, and I'm not paying a copious amount of money for a sexy + crippled phone. I give it six to eight months before *my* iPhone launches.
NO Java, MAYBE Flash, according to Jobs
- How does the iPhone charge? It comes with a white charging/syncing dock, just like an iPod.
- Calendar program isnt finished yet, but I did see an add new event icon on the placeholder graphic.
- Can the pinch gesture be used on Web pages? Yes! Also on email!
- [The screen is the] same polycarbonate thats used for iPod screens, although apparently the coating has been substantially improved.
- [The screen responds] ONLY to skin touch. I couldnt use my fingernail, for example. And you certainly cant use a stylus.