Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Not gonna lie, I think those are hideous. I'll stick with my Zendikar forests.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT13| Ixalan - Port to Sideboard
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I'm going to need some better pictures before I judge them, right now they look kind of weird.
Looks a lot like this one:
Looks a lot like this one:
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
They have the same problem I had with Invocations: they don't look like Magic cards.
players will go nuts tho
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Fine by me.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
A lot mountains are like that, way too many are in fact are just shades of ochre. Instead of the cold grey or the scarce greens growing on top of mountains.
forest swamp and plains are very pretty otoh.
at least these are readable.
Maybe in terms of reprints. But MM1 and EMA were much better draft formats
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I think those lands look amazing. I loved the Zendikar lands but these are way cooler
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I especially love the first one.
Don't know if Wizards demands it but too many lands stick to only a single tone of colour.
Remembrance
Member
It feels sort of like we've seen all these basic lands before.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
that's my favourite forest. I should look into getting a bunch of foils.
Scratch that this is my favourite forest.
Scratch that this is my favourite forest.
I like the Unstable lands—though I'll echo those who don't think they look like Magic cards. I like that WotC is experimenting with card frames and designs, but it does feel like some attempts (these lands, Invocations) stray too far from some of the traditional visual elements that make a Magic card feel like a Magic card. Centre-aligned text is the big one. Like, why? 20 years of (superior) left-aligned text, and suddenly they're moving away from that? I also feel like semi-transparent elements (though used on Planeswalkers and some other cards for a long time now), doesn't necessarily fit the Fantasy stylings that the game is going for. They're moving away from skeuomorphic design in some ways (these lands) and doubling-down on it in others (DFC lands, Invocations, etc.). It's a weird place to be, and makes the game feel like it's losing some of its strong visual identity.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
PW frames are terrible anyways.
Unhinged lands also had center-aligned text. Left or right aligned text, when there's only a single word on the card, looks terrible.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Because there's still the poop looking modern frame around it.
These lands would probably look totally fine if the top was a translucent traditional nameplate.
Um. All Basic lands since the beginning of the game have had single-word, left-aligned titles and they look fine. And, the Unhinged lands don't really make a case for it being a good idea, though I think that the box around the card name helps a bit. Additionally, the Unhinged lands incorporate visual elements (the frame in particular) that maintain the skeuomorphic fantasy design that people heavily identify with Magic cards.
I'm not saying that there aren't design/usability benefits to centre-aligned text—instead, I'm saying that breaking 25 years of tradition for no tangible benefit (and, one could argue, challenging player's muscle memory after spending the life of the game teaching them that the name of the card to be in the top left corner) is bad design.
They look fine because they also have a type line and a set symbol. If you get rid of those elements (like in these lands and the unhinged lands) line just have "Forest" over to the left, it's hideous.
Here's a quick and dirty mock up. Look how awful it is:
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It looks like Magic: Galaxy S7 Edge
Remembrance
Member
If they start using sans-serif fonts then it'll be time to panic.
Arena is pretty much exactly what I thought it would be (taking into consideration the leaks)
it supports normal deck building, full standard, draft, it's not the ugly montrosity that is MTGO, free to play, it's detached from the secondary market, of course it's gonna be popular what are you smoking
it supports normal deck building, full standard, draft, it's not the ugly montrosity that is MTGO, free to play, it's detached from the secondary market, of course it's gonna be popular what are you smoking
DashReindeer
Lead Community Manager, Outpost Games
For those just joining us, here are the confirmed Rares and Mythics (like Ashodin, obviously):
Rares:
Mythics:
EDIT: Archangel of Thune is rare, not mythic.
Courtesy of this guy on Twitter.
Seriously? What do I have to do to get them to lower the price on Rishadan Port with some damn reprints? Super not into this set at the moment with that card list. Just doesn't really do what I hoped it would do (though potentially Legends Mana Drain will finally be within reach).
They look fine because they also have a type line and a set symbol. If you get rid of those elements (like in these lands and the unhinged lands) line just have "Forest" over to the left, it's hideous.
Here's a quick and dirty mock up. Look how awful it is:
I mean, yeah, if you take a template that was designed around a centre-aligned title and alter it like that it's going to look bad.
This, however, looks a lot better (imho):
Developing a custom font (Beleren) was one of the best branding ideas they've ever had.
That looks fine, but not nearly ass good as the center aligned one.This, however, looks a lot better (imho):
A big part of it is the art though; if you know what the frame is going to be, making the art draw the eye properly from the tile is a big part of making the frame look better. THe left-aligned text looks better on the Unstable island than it would on, say the swamp or mountain.
It's about more than subjective visual appeal, though. It's about adhering to 25 years of ingrained design methodology and straying away from that for absolutely no tangible benefits. I don't necessarily think the centre-aligned text looks bad (in the case of these lands, it works; on the Invocations it didn't), but when 15,000 Magic cards have their title in the top left corner, and 50 have their title in the top centre, you're creating unnecessary cognitive conflicts in players. Centre-aligned text doesn't even work when cards are fanned out in a players hands. There's a reason all (good) playing cards have their suit and number in the top left corner.
Changing layout elements should be done because it makes the game easier for players to play and understand. Changing layout elements just because it looks better with the art is bad design.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
In other news I'm a bit clueless how I should adjust my UR deck against UW Approach.
I have way too much removal and their sideboard options are better than mine.
I'm considering going heavier black (helps with Scarab God) and putting lost legacy into my sideboard.
If I could get delirium I'd play Invasive Surgery.
I have way too much removal and their sideboard options are better than mine.
I'm considering going heavier black (helps with Scarab God) and putting lost legacy into my sideboard.
If I could get delirium I'd play Invasive Surgery.
Thank you! I wasn't sure what exactly was bothering me about these and its that! They look like they're being viewed through a phone screen.
This is a great point. The centred text is used *specifically* to tell the player that this is not a Magic card that you play in the traditional sense.
Mine said new players only, which probably means they will be selling them after the event. It seems my local is a bit shady...
Nope. It looks like my problem is that I bought Dragon Shield Clear Non-Matte. Though it looks like the Matte Clear suck, too.
charlequin
Banned
This set owns. But the most important part is THEY DIDN'T REPRINT CHALICE BOOYAH
Really confused by stuff like this. We knew it was a Masters set and that after MM2 they weren't gonna make the same kind of mistake in terms of just printing crap. They explained that there would be a major theme of the five iconic creature types (which there is) and also "iconic" spells (which is a much vaguer proposition but Mana Drain and Necropotence certainly qualify.) The list of exciting stuff that's not on the Reserved List is pretty short and it's easy to see it's not just gonna be a wall of big rare fatties; also, literally every reprintable card was a possible choice for either Modern or Eternal Masters so by definition this was going to be an overlap of the two.
Once everyone goes through these one more time and we have a pretty settled checklist for IMA I'll pull together the plausible options.
These are two different things that both happened.
Really confused by stuff like this. We knew it was a Masters set and that after MM2 they weren't gonna make the same kind of mistake in terms of just printing crap. They explained that there would be a major theme of the five iconic creature types (which there is) and also "iconic" spells (which is a much vaguer proposition but Mana Drain and Necropotence certainly qualify.) The list of exciting stuff that's not on the Reserved List is pretty short and it's easy to see it's not just gonna be a wall of big rare fatties; also, literally every reprintable card was a possible choice for either Modern or Eternal Masters so by definition this was going to be an overlap of the two.
Once everyone goes through these one more time and we have a pretty settled checklist for IMA I'll pull together the plausible options.
These are two different things that both happened.
Iconic Masters is much, much better than I was expecting. (Still not quite on the level of EMA or MM2017, though.)
One of the LGS in my area does a free tournament where they hand out the starter decks randomly. I went last time and it was really fun.
Where's mine wizardssssss
Also lol
http://kotaku.com/arena-is-magic-the-gatherings-answer-to-hearthstone-1802670009
Kotaku trying to stir up shit
Where's mine wizardssssss
I got this, too. Gimme, gimme.
My whole post was about the Ultimate Guard Matte sleeves, those are slick and would slide if used for an EDH deck.
My Dragon shield sleeves are sort of tacky, so the deck doesn't slide at all. They also get dirty a little quicker than most other sleeves I use though.