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[Syriel]

This article has been updated. I just can't believe that first denial was made in good faith. The car wasn't registered to the NYPD, but the police can easily determine where it was and to whom it was assigned.

There are almost no other jobs where the person wouldn't get fired for acting like that to a random member of the public.

http://longisland.news12.com/news/source-nypd-detective-from-li-in-uber-video-rant-1.10172400

Yep. This wouldn't even be a question for most other jobs — you'd be fired on the spot. But this is the police, and that doesn't matter in this fucking world.

From the updated article:
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2...-cop-who-yelled-at-uber-driver-not-their-cop/

First, the union rep:

“I am not trying to minimize the significance of what occurred. I am simply pointing out that cops are just like everyone else. They have families, friends, and other things going on in their lives, too, that may affect their behavior at times. There is no disputing that we are held to a higher standard and that is why this incident is so newsworthy. Detective Cherry is a person of good character and an excellent Detective. He really should not be judged by one isolated incident.”

Michael J. Palladino, President, Detectives’ Endowment Association, Inc.

And then the follow up in the news piece:

The NYPD also stated is not going to fire him because displaying unprofessionalism is not a fireable offense as it would be in most any other job dealing with the public.

 

[HoodWinked]

the real crime is the portrait recording

 

[SummitAve]

Yep. This wouldn't even be a question for most other jobs — you'd be fired on the spot. But this is the police, and that doesn't matter in this fucking world.

He's a public employee, and a member of a huge public sector union. That's not really how it works.

 

[slit]

He's a public employee, and a member of a huge public sector union. That's not really how it works.

Really? So are public school teachers.

You think if a video was released of a teacher treating a student that way they wouldn't be fired?

 

[Messofanego]

I do hold respect for the profession of law enforcement. I have family in the profession. And I have met many honorable and respectable members of law enforcement.

I myself have not been harassed by any forms of law enforcement, either.
People often are only able to use their personal experiences to form judgments.

So as long as upper middle class white folk continue to have smooth experiences with police and the victims of harassment are disproportionately minorities and poor people, nothing will change.

The conscious or subconscious notion that these minorities and poor people must have done something exceptionally wrong to warrant that level of brutality is dangerous.
It creates apathy towards these sorts of incidents. The fox news types won't even acknowledge that institutional racism exists despite the extraordinary overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

All too often do we hear the "if he would have just 100% cooperated, this would have never happened" line. Yeah, maybe if he would have stepped out of the car, that guy would not have been beaten half to death. But that does not necessarily mean it was proper procedure to ask the guy to step out of the car, and it certainly does not warrant a beating just because the cop felt he was disrespected.

Agreed, we should look out of our boxes and see how more vulnerable people are treated to help in solving these issues than rely on anecdotes.

 

[finowns]

First, the union rep:

“I am not trying to minimize the significance of what occurred. I am simply pointing out that cops are just like everyone else. They have families, friends, and other things going on in their lives, too, that may affect their behavior at times. There is no disputing that we are held to a higher standard and that is why this incident is so newsworthy. Detective Cherry is a person of good character and an excellent Detective. He really should not be judged by one isolated incident.”

Michael J. Palladino, President, Detectives’ Endowment Association, Inc.


I can empathize with this reasoning, but police can easily use their power to intimidate with no consequence. When we have proof of a cop acting in such a way, they must be disciplined. If not, this type of behavior will continue.

 

[Mad Season]

This motherfucker is only 38? He looks like he's in his 50s.

Let's not attack people's looks please

 

[Lazyslob]

The NYPD also stated is not going to fire him because displaying unprofessionalism is not a fireable offense as it would be in most any other job dealing with the public.

how pathetic. the one job where peoples lives and shit are on the line but its the one where being unprofessional is tolerated

 

[Dalek]

Let's not attack people's looks please

 

[dose]

Let's not attack people's looks please

So people aren't allowed to say how old they think a person looks? Madness.

 

[Delta Assault]

So people aren't allowed to say how old they think a person looks? Madness.

Sounds like intolerant body-shaming microaggression.

 

[Oaktree]

This shit is getting ridiculous. Every day you're hearing something about shitty cops.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

As a non American this is actually the first time I've made the connection between aggressive police behavior and lax gun control. Makes perfect sense.

 

[entremet]

I'm still baffled that he's 38. Man, those overtime hours must accelerate aging.

 

[Dalek]

I'm still baffled that he's 38. Man, those overtime hours must accelerate aging.

For real. He looks like he's much older. I'm 37 and he looks like he could be my dad.

 

[Zakalwe]

He should have had been made an example of. Not fired, but suspended and made to publicly apologise.

This kind of a use of position should never be tolerated, the police are our servants as much as our keepers.

 

[slit]

He should have had been made an example of. Not fired, but suspended and made to publicly apologise.

This kind of a use of position should never be tolerated, the police are our servants as much as our keepers.

Well I don't understand why he shouldn't be fired. Anyone else would. If anything they have more of a reason to be fired because of the power they hold. They should be held to a much higher standard.

 

[benjipwns]

Really? So are public school teachers.

You think if a video was released of a teacher treating a student that way they wouldn't be fired?

Eventually. Maybe:
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/08/31/the-rubber-room
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...ls-rubber-rooms-bounce-back-article-1.1184406

 

[slit]

Eventually. Maybe:
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/08/31/the-rubber-room
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...ls-rubber-rooms-bounce-back-article-1.1184406

Well of course there are instances where people are not fired for unjustified behavior but you can find that in any profession. There are teachers that have been fired for a lot less than what was shown on that video. The point is with the police it rarely ever happens unless it's something so blatant that it cannot be ignored and even then it's not guaranteed.

 

[JDSN]

So, wheres the "wait for all the facts" people at now that we have some facts and background on the guy?

 

[ItIsOkBro]

From the updated article:
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2...-cop-who-yelled-at-uber-driver-not-their-cop/

First, the union rep:


And then the follow up in the news piece:

one isolated incident, as in isolated from the 34 other incidents. what a joke. oh and what a persecution complex too. higher standards? the only standard he's being held to is that of human decency.

 

[YoungHav]

A$AP Schrader gets to keep his job. 35 charges and 13 civilian complaints Hahahaha. He's only 38yrs old, imagine how many more times he gets to pull shit like this off until retirement?

I want his next recorded traffic violation stop to be a saggy pants driver with a rap car.

 

[soundahfekz]

A$AP Schrader gets to keep his job. 35 charges and 13 civilian complaints Hahahaha. He's only 38yrs old, imagine how many more times he gets to pull shit like this off until retirement?

I want his next recorded traffic violation stop to be a saggy pants driver with a rap car.

that man is gonna die :/

 

[Africanus]

So, wheres the "wait for all the facts" people at now that we have some facts and background on the guy?

As opposed to other stories, there were not many "facts" to debate given the video footage displaying most of the scene, and witnesses validating the claim.

As such, I doubt those people shall return, although, one never knows!

 

[Dalek]

NYPD Detective Apologies for Expletive-Filled Tirade at Uber Driver

The New York police detective who was stripped of his badge and gun after he was filmed unleashing an expletive-filled, xenophobic roadside rant on an Uber driver has said he is sorry for his behavior.

"I apologize. I sincerely apologize," Patrick Cherry said in a television interview with NBC4. "People shouldn't be treated that way. I let my emotions get the better of me and I was angry."

"My intention was to be courteous and then we got into an argument," he added. "There was no intention to berate or hurt deeply the driver."

In the video, Cherry berates the driver who had honked his horn as the officer was attempting to park his unmarked car, without using his indicator. A passenger in the Uber recorded the incident on his cellphone and posted the video to YouTube, where it went viral this week and has been viewed more than 3 million times.

"When I walked up, I was uptight," he explained. "I wanted to know what the problem was. What did I do that was so wrong that I had to get chastised? I felt his driving actions were discourteous and impolite and when he stopped he said, 'I'm not going to give you anything."'

"I was upset that he refused to give me his license and registration, and I yelled inappropriately," Cherry added. "That's not who I am, that's not who I've been, and that's not how I conducted myself as an officer in New York City,"


Cherry's explanation follows another public apology by New York Police Commissioner Bill Bratton, who censured Cherry and placed him on modified duty and removed him from the elite FBI Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTF) he was serving on.

"I want to extend an apology to the driver of that vehicle and the two passengers in that vehicle for the behavior of that officer," Bratton said at a press conference. "That officer's behavior reflected poorly on everyone who wears our uniform."

In his apology Friday, Cherry said he will assume whatever punishment the department decides to give him and said his behavior is not typical of the men and women who serve in uniform in New York.

"You can't judge 3 minutes of tape that that is the common practice of the New York Police Department," he said. "At the end of the day it's simply one individual who got angry."

 

[adamsappel]

The detective and the union rep still think that what he did wrong was simply being loud. He intimidated and threatened an innocent civilian.

 

[Siegcram]

The last sentence perfectly encapsulates why nothing has and nothing will change for a long time.

 

[Crud]

The last sentence perfectly encapsulates why nothing has and nothing will change for a long time.

"You cant judge" lol

 

[Aureon]

If firing is too much, can we at least have SOME punishment for that type of retarded behavior?
I don't know, a month's pay docked? Does that even fly with union rules?

 

[clem84]

To me this goes beyond unprofessionalism. If a bank clerk is being unprofessional and discourteous to you, you can ask to be served by someone else or simply walk away. When a cop uses his authority in such a manner, you can't voice your dissatisfaction in any way or else god knows what might happen. He's using the powers given to him by law enforcement to exert his own personal power trip or to just treat somebody in any way he pleases and get away with it.

I don't care what it is, he deserves something. This cop should not be allowed to make any kind of traffic stop, on or off duty, for the rest of his career. He kinda proved he's not fit to do so. There should also be some kind of unpaid suspension involved, even if it's just a few days.