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I'd buy thatBeam said:I personally think that Tobi is Madara supposed dead brother.
I'd buy thatBeam said:I personally think that Tobi is Madara supposed dead brother.
Should... yes. Will? ... This is shonen romance, give them fifty chapters.scy said:I kind of hope it gets left to the triangle. Still, it's an interesting development and I'm curious to how it pans out oncethey all figure out why the mirror is allowing Saki in. Though, I imagine they'll all manage to get relationship retardation at just the right time to not draw any of the proper conclusions over who likes whom over the fact. I mean, if it's due to him starting to waver between Mao and Saki, it seems like the explanation should clue Mao in a bit on his feelings; if it's due to Saki's feelings towards him, then he should figure out that Mao likes him. And now to expect none of that to happen so I won't be let down!
Kanako gets more bearable in the last couple of volumes once she's receeded into minor character status again... but while she's the main focus of the plot she's just awful. The quasi-incestuous obsession, the "turning it into an inn" thing, the fact that she's basically the main focus of the plot for way too long (the other girls barely get anything, apart from a bit with Naru)... it's awful.I liked Kanako to a point; I suppose it was necessary for her to be a relative of some kind for the direction of the arc. But, I feel a lot of the story before her arrival was the better material for the most part (basically anything involving Mutsumi as she made the best rival for Naru reactions) and Kanako's inclusion feels a bit forced for dramatics in the harem aspect. It feels like a lot of the stuff that happens with her appearance and after doesn't feel as fleshed out at times, really.
While I did say that I thought the last one of those was really dumb and impossible to believe -- yeah, no way are they breaking up late in the 14th volume -- but as for the other ones... eh, I don't know. I mean, it did get old (I commented about how many times one or the other of the two of them runs away), but... at least the vol. 13 one wasn't taken very seriously. I mean, sure, it was cast as another "will they break up" arc, but no one involved actually thought they would, they just wanted to try anyway. That helped give that arc, the one in Suu's homeland, a somewhat more comic cast than some of the others, which was part of why that volume was so much fun.Then again, we have like four new "UH OH SOMETHING'S COME UP RELATIONSHIP NOSE DIVE?" plots that really, really make no damn amount of sense in this span of time. It's still good fun, yeah, but these volumes feel lacking for the most parts. There's standouts (I do enjoy the) but it starts to feel like some rather obvious feet dragging at this point.Seta and Haruka finale arc, for instance
IU watched the anime before reading the manga, and really liked it from the beginning, so I've always had positive thoughts about the anime... and I did rewatch it (well, the original series anyway, not Again or the specials) within the past year and I still liked it quite a bit. Some episodes were weaker than others, but the good parts were great, and very funny. It's one of the better harem animes, it really is...As for the anime, I found it to be rather bad besides the specials, though Again wasn't that great either; the actual series was too hit-or-miss at times due to some of the anime-exclusive arcs not being that interesting to me. But, I say that now looking back rather than when I watched it originally and enjoyed it for what it was: Anime Love Hina. Though, I do love the voice cast so that's always a plus for it.
Heh... but hey, while the lack of progression is annoying, I'd take Nagasaete Airantou's near complete lack of progression over the stupid, stupid idiocy of many shonen harem romance mangas... that isn't saying much though, it is true.Yeah, don't get me wrong ... I kept reading because it was fun to keep going. It just was a back-of-the-mind thing throughout of "So ... progress? Guys, progress? Hello?" I went and re-read Nyan Koi after it since it took like five volumes foe like double the progress that NA went through~
Is that another comedy harem manga or something? Haven't read/watched it. Is that the one with the catgirls who's also allergic to cats, or something? Or is that something else?...that and Nyan Koi coming out of hiatus meant I needed/wanted a refresher.
Each story or arc is focused on a character and something involving that character, and the rest of the time they are ignored or revert to default, you mean? Yeah, probably true.The sheer fact that she's basically out of the plot unless she's fully relevant for the story at that moment. Most of the characters seem to be about the same, though; only really relevant when absolutely necessary for the story at hand.
I see Michiru more as taking that idea (only seen when they're important to the story at hand) and then making an entire character around it. She basically exists as a character that even the rest of the story doesn't recognize as existing until she's important. That nobody recognizes her because she doesn't get enough screentime.
That said, lampshade hanging probably wasn't quite the right term ...
Seriously though, given the concept, he HAS to be one of the shyest "I will not progress in romance" guys ever, or it would be hentai in chapter one. Sure, perhaps you could come up with better reasoning for it, or something, but with that concept it might be hard, yes? It probably is possible though. Still, while the show's "answer" of just not letting things really progress is probably not the best way to deal with it, it's not the worst either.True. That or it'd just have resolved a lot sooner. I just wish that some of the obvious artifical lengthening just ... well, felt better done.
"Forgotten, and nobody cared about here anymore" would be fine too."Ceased to be." Let's just go with that.
Why is Kenshin and his clone on an airplane?upandaway said:
Aizen post on Gaf?grandjedi6 said:I am Tobi. The entirety of Naruto was just an overly-complicated cumbersome plan by me to troll the hell out of this thread.
Since when were you under the impression that Aizen was a manga character?Mael said:Aizen post on Gaf?
I buy it too.Parallax said:I'd buy that
I never believed he did it on purpose but the narrative put him in that spot.A Black Falcon said:But, he's also definitely still Keitaro, the two are quite distinct.You do at least not think that Keitaro did it on purpose though? That's good.Seta never had Keitaro's kind of accidental-seeing-girls-naked thing, which is one of the most central things about Keitaro in the series really. They're also personality apart from that too. He didn't entirely change into what she wanted, he's still himself... but really, "he did that, on purpose or not, because she liked Seta" just isn't something I was thinking while reading it.
Very rarely is how I'd phrase it. My favorite ending is Karin and I'm not sure how many people read that. It covered everything you'd want for a satisfying ending. Umisho also had a fun ending but it wasn't like it needed to tie up things. Chrno Crusade had aA Black Falcon said:It is possible for them to have good endings, though, so it's not like they can't do it... they just often don't.
A Black Falcon said:You mean the one where they say they "stopped halfway because they weren't prepared or ready", or something like that, or the one where they were going to try, but didn't get anywhere because the island girl happened to be in the room? I don't remember a third one which actually implied they succeeded.
The manga had potential with the MC's past. But all they did really wasA Black Falcon said:Huh. Doesn't make it any better though.
MC is allergic to cats but that is not really the point of the manga. It is basically a harem comedy. I like it though.A Black Falcon said:Is that another comedy harem manga or something? Haven't read/watched it. Is that the one with the catgirls who's also allergic to cats, or something? Or is that something else?
upandaway said:Hayate no Gotoku
Hinagiku is really awesome. She is.. the best awesome.
A Black Falcon said:Should... yes. Will? ... This is shonen romance, give them fifty chapters.
As for the mirror... so if he falls in love with one, he's saved and there's no problem? But I thought the story was that if he confessed and it wasn't mutual he'd be stuck forever, where does that leave the other person... but of course, it also said that if anyone else learned he'd be stuck and he wasn't, so yeah. They did comment in the chapter about that not proving true of course, so the rest of it is somewhat unclear too now I would think.
While I did say that I thought the last one of those was really dumb and impossible to believe -- yeah, no way are they breaking up late in the 14th volume -- but as for the other ones... eh, I don't know. I mean, it did get old (I commented about how many times one or the other of the two of them runs away), but... at least the vol. 13 one wasn't taken very seriously. I mean, sure, it was cast as another "will they break up" arc, but no one involved actually thought they would, they just wanted to try anyway. That helped give that arc, the one in Suu's homeland, a somewhat more comic cast than some of the others, which was part of why that volume was so much fun.
IU watched the anime before reading the manga, and really liked it from the beginning, so I've always had positive thoughts about the anime... and I did rewatch it (well, the original series anyway, not Again or the specials) within the past year and I still liked it quite a bit. Some episodes were weaker than others, but the good parts were great, and very funny. It's one of the better harem animes, it really is...
Is that another comedy harem manga or something? Haven't read/watched it. Is that the one with the catgirls who's also allergic to cats, or something? Or is that something else?
Each story or arc is focused on a character and something involving that character, and the rest of the time they are ignored or revert to default, you mean? Yeah, probably true.
Seriously though, given the concept, he HAS to be one of the shyest "I will not progress in romance" guys ever, or it would be hentai in chapter one. Sure, perhaps you could come up with better reasoning for it, or something, but with that concept it might be hard, yes? It probably is possible though. Still, while the show's "answer" of just not letting things really progress is probably not the best way to deal with it, it's not the worst either.
gunbo13 said:I never believed he did it on purpose but the narrative put him in that spot.I just don't see how there is really any differences between them at the end. And differences in types of clumsiness is really not significant. The main difference between them is their age and not much else IMO. AndSeta may have not had the whole accidental infringement thing going on but that is more due to the age/environment. He doesn't live in an apartment with like 12 girls and he is quite a bit older then the kids.Seta probably acted about the same as Keitaro when he was younger based on the narrative.
There's something really incredible about seeing Nagi look up to someone like that. That's the best thing about her.scy said:Hinagiku is basically an all-around powerful force of good and proof that we're not doomed.
upandaway said:There's something really incredible about seeing Nagi look up to someone like that. That's the best thing about her.
I've never really seen this sort of "an older, experienced version of an already really awesome yet inexperienced character" thing played out either (and I don't mean time-shifting, but different characters).
Really the best Hinagiku and Nagi moments are when they're together.
upandaway said:Just to make sure, I shouldn't read those spoilers right? (ch150ish)
Did you see the high quality pic that has all the characters? You see it for the credits of each chapter, but they cut off most of it.gunbo13 said:Maoyuu Maou Yuusha (ch 1-6)
gunbo13 said:So what type of manga is this? It has romance from the two who basically exchanged vows but the identity is really vague. I'm thinking it is more of a kingdom battle setup with the economics and quests surround this. But Yuusha went on his own quest totally unrelated to the economic plots...and his other previous companion is teaching sword classes at Maou's school... It is a bit jumbled.
Finally, that fucking art. I was like who drew this, wow? The color pages absolutely pop and could be straight ported to an anime. Hell, this series should have an anime just based on what I'm seeing so far. It's serialized in comp ace so there is hope for approval relating to 11 Eyes (which is shit), Amagami, Canaan (eh), etc... If you are on the fence, at least check this series out for the art. The big boobs on Maou also are not a bad sight.
gunbo13 said:Maoyuu Maou Yuusha (ch 1-6)
A Black Falcon said:Should... yes. Will? ... This is shonen romance, give them fifty chapters.
Though Saki's confession did happen surprisingly quickly, still, in this genre...
Oh, and while it'd be nice if it stayed in the triangle it is now, I'd be kind of surprised if it did, and didn't become harem... now that there are three, it'd be easy (if probably annoying from a plot standpoint) to add more.
Decent chapter though, Saki is amusing.
As for the mirror... so if he falls in love with one, he's saved and there's no problem? But I thought the story was that if he confessed and it wasn't mutual he'd be stuck forever, where does that leave the other person... but of course, it also said that if anyone else learned he'd be stuck and he wasn't, so yeah. They did comment in the chapter about that not proving true of course, so the rest of it is somewhat unclear too now I would think.
Kanako gets more bearable in the last couple of volumes once she's receeded into minor character status again... but while she's the main focus of the plot she's just awful. The quasi-incestuous obsession, the "turning it into an inn" thing, the fact that she's basically the main focus of the plot for way too long (the other girls barely get anything, apart from a bit with Naru)... it's awful.
While I did say that I thought the last one of those was really dumb and impossible to believe -- yeah, no way are they breaking up late in the 14th volume -- but as for the other ones... eh, I don't know. I mean, it did get old (I commented about how many times one or the other of the two of them runs away), but... at least the vol. 13 one wasn't taken very seriously. I mean, sure, it was cast as another "will they break up" arc, but no one involved actually thought they would, they just wanted to try anyway. That helped give that arc, the one in Suu's homeland, a somewhat more comic cast than some of the others, which was part of why that volume was so much fun.
Was there foot-dragging, though? Yes, certainly.
IU watched the anime before reading the manga, and really liked it from the beginning, so I've always had positive thoughts about the anime... and I did rewatch it (well, the original series anyway, not Again or the specials) within the past year and I still liked it quite a bit. Some episodes were weaker than others, but the good parts were great, and very funny. It's one of the better harem animes, it really is...
As for Again and the specials, I remember liking the specials, for the most part, but not so much Again. Of course, given that Again has Kanako in it, that isn't surprising...I haven't seen either in several years though. (I do remember that Again wasn't considered as good as the original series at the time either though, I don't think it was just me.)
Angry Grimace said:...are you having a long scholarly debate about Love Hina? It's about clothes getting removed in various ways.
I also don't quite get the manga obsession with confessions. Is this a Japanese cultural thing or just a manga thing.
Oh no, don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with it. I just think it's funny since having read Love Hina, the main point was removing clothes.scy said:Hey, if others can debate <insert something here>, I'll be damned if I won't debate my harems.
Besides, it's interesting.
The stress, nervousness, and awkwardness from confessions make up 73.81% of their power supply somehow; it's an essential commodity.
Angry Grimace said:Oh no, don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with it. I just think it's funny since having read Love Hina, the main point was removing clothes.
I remember that super awkward aborted arc at the end where Keitaro was going to deflower Naru but the rest of his harem kept showing up which was all very weird and Akamatsu just ended up cutting off the arc in favor of the ending timeskip.
Yea, it's quite something. Love the art.survivor said:Did you see the high quality pic that has all the characters? You see it for the credits of each chapter, but they cut off most of it.
The mage is clearly female and likes the hero a lot (enough to chase after him into the demon world). So does the female swordman based on her reactions. So I don't think it is far fetched and I see it being quite plausible. Should be a square.scy said:I think the Hero was sent off to collect-a-thon a harem for down the road for when they want to get the romance bits started. Or maybe that's just my wishful (cynical?) thinking.
Hey Infinite, it wasn't me this time. See, see.scy said:Honestly, it's weird/refreshing seeing what other discussions that pop up in here between the Big Three / WSJ releases. It's just all over the place~
scy said:Time for sex!
OH MAN WHERE'D THISCOME FROM.TURTLE
gunbo13 said:The mage is clearly female and likes the hero a lot (enough to chase after him into the demon world). So does the female swordman based on her reactions. So I don't think it is far fetched and I see it being quite plausible. Should be a square.
I swear there was that cut-away panel that totally implied sex before the epilogue. I described it above. Am I going crazy? It wasn't like that deep space nine shit from Otaku no Musume-san but felt quite obvious. IDK anymore...
Yea, that one.scy said:I think you're referring tothe literally last panel before the epilogue. If so, it's just a shot of the hole (with the doll) with a quick line about Todai thing that drove the plot. I mean, I guess you can see it as them in there but there's not much to go on about. If I remember, it goes Keitaro and Naru find the time capsule from their childhood, kiss in front of the university, and then the shot of her room with the "Two people enter yada yada blah blah" line. So, pretty much up to you if you want to think they shacked up after finding the capsule or what.
Enjoy Hayate while you can. Currently it's doing a shitty impression of Bakuman.upandaway said:Hayate
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this about sums up my feelings right now
I'm pretty sure we can assume they were bumping uglies by the time they got married at the end.gunbo13 said:I swear there was that cut-away panel that totally implied sex before the epilogue. I described it above. Am I going crazy? It wasn't like that deep space nine shit from Otaku no Musume-san but felt quite obvious. IDK anymore...
gunbo13 said:Yea, that one.The entire issue with them hooking up was being alone and not screwing shit up. So in the last panel they are alone...in Naru's room...at night...giggling...nothing screwing things up...and they show a cut-away from Keitaro's room. I read it as finally they did the deed. But like you said, it is an interpretation.
A Huge Battleship said:Enjoy Hayate while you can. Currently it's doing a shitty impression of Bakuman.
Yea, that's right.scy said:Well,there's no indication they're in the room. And there's no cut-away from Keitaro's room (they're at the University together in the prior scenes). It's just a sudden shot of the doll on the door with the "Did you know ... that if two people in love go to Tokyo University ..." line.
Very true but I still think that panel was the first.Angry Grimace said:I'm pretty sure we can assume they were bumping uglies by the time they got married at the end.
scy said:TWGOK 166 - Oh lord. Look, I expected something like this but with a little more TLC. I've seen more loving murders.
C'mon Keima. You should know better with all the dating sim experience; this is death flagselaborate hoax reveal next week
Infinite Justice said:Its funny how he can be both Genre Savvy and Genre Blind at the same time.