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Otogi Matsuri

All caught up. This is a great series and another to add to the short list of notable battle seinen along with Biscuit Hammer. The fights, story, relationships; they all have a certain brand of tension that is pretty difficult to pull off. Definitely a high quality hidden gem that any fan of this kind of stuff should check out.

Hope the translations pick up since I need more :/
 
Hayate

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this about sums up my feelings right now
 
scy said:
I kind of hope it gets left to the triangle. Still, it's an interesting development and I'm curious to how it pans out once
they all figure out why the mirror is allowing Saki in. Though, I imagine they'll all manage to get relationship retardation at just the right time to not draw any of the proper conclusions over who likes whom over the fact. I mean, if it's due to him starting to waver between Mao and Saki, it seems like the explanation should clue Mao in a bit on his feelings; if it's due to Saki's feelings towards him, then he should figure out that Mao likes him. And now to expect none of that to happen so I won't be let down!
Should... yes. Will? ... This is shonen romance, give them fifty chapters. :p
Though Saki's confession did happen surprisingly quickly, still, in this genre...

Oh, and while it'd be nice if it stayed in the triangle it is now, I'd be kind of surprised if it did, and didn't become harem... now that there are three, it'd be easy (if probably annoying from a plot standpoint) to add more.

Decent chapter though, Saki is amusing.

As for the mirror... so if he falls in love with one, he's saved and there's no problem? But I thought the story was that if he confessed and it wasn't mutual he'd be stuck forever, where does that leave the other person... but of course, it also said that if anyone else learned he'd be stuck and he wasn't, so yeah. They did comment in the chapter about that not proving true of course, so the rest of it is somewhat unclear too now I would think.

I liked Kanako to a point; I suppose it was necessary for her to be a relative of some kind for the direction of the arc. But, I feel a lot of the story before her arrival was the better material for the most part (basically anything involving Mutsumi as she made the best rival for Naru reactions) and Kanako's inclusion feels a bit forced for dramatics in the harem aspect. It feels like a lot of the stuff that happens with her appearance and after doesn't feel as fleshed out at times, really.
Kanako gets more bearable in the last couple of volumes once she's receeded into minor character status again... but while she's the main focus of the plot she's just awful. The quasi-incestuous obsession, the "turning it into an inn" thing, the fact that she's basically the main focus of the plot for way too long (the other girls barely get anything, apart from a bit with Naru)... it's awful.

Then again, we have like four new "UH OH SOMETHING'S COME UP RELATIONSHIP NOSE DIVE?" plots that really, really make no damn amount of sense in this span of time. It's still good fun, yeah, but these volumes feel lacking for the most parts. There's standouts (I do enjoy the
Seta and Haruka finale arc, for instance
) but it starts to feel like some rather obvious feet dragging at this point.
While I did say that I thought the last one of those was really dumb and impossible to believe -- yeah, no way are they breaking up late in the 14th volume -- but as for the other ones... eh, I don't know. I mean, it did get old (I commented about how many times one or the other of the two of them runs away), but... at least the vol. 13 one wasn't taken very seriously. I mean, sure, it was cast as another "will they break up" arc, but no one involved actually thought they would, they just wanted to try anyway. That helped give that arc, the one in Suu's homeland, a somewhat more comic cast than some of the others, which was part of why that volume was so much fun.

Was there foot-dragging, though? Yes, certainly.

As for the anime, I found it to be rather bad besides the specials, though Again wasn't that great either; the actual series was too hit-or-miss at times due to some of the anime-exclusive arcs not being that interesting to me. But, I say that now looking back rather than when I watched it originally and enjoyed it for what it was: Anime Love Hina. Though, I do love the voice cast so that's always a plus for it.
IU watched the anime before reading the manga, and really liked it from the beginning, so I've always had positive thoughts about the anime... and I did rewatch it (well, the original series anyway, not Again or the specials) within the past year and I still liked it quite a bit. Some episodes were weaker than others, but the good parts were great, and very funny. It's one of the better harem animes, it really is...

As for Again and the specials, I remember liking the specials, for the most part, but not so much Again. Of course, given that Again has Kanako in it, that isn't surprising... :p I haven't seen either in several years though. (I do remember that Again wasn't considered as good as the original series at the time either though, I don't think it was just me.)

Yeah, don't get me wrong ... I kept reading because it was fun to keep going. It just was a back-of-the-mind thing throughout of "So ... progress? Guys, progress? Hello?" I went and re-read Nyan Koi after it since it took like five volumes foe like double the progress that NA went through~
Heh... but hey, while the lack of progression is annoying, I'd take Nagasaete Airantou's near complete lack of progression over the stupid, stupid idiocy of many shonen harem romance mangas... that isn't saying much though, it is true. :)

...that and Nyan Koi coming out of hiatus meant I needed/wanted a refresher.
Is that another comedy harem manga or something? Haven't read/watched it. Is that the one with the catgirls who's also allergic to cats, or something? Or is that something else?

The sheer fact that she's basically out of the plot unless she's fully relevant for the story at that moment. Most of the characters seem to be about the same, though; only really relevant when absolutely necessary for the story at hand.

I see Michiru more as taking that idea (only seen when they're important to the story at hand) and then making an entire character around it. She basically exists as a character that even the rest of the story doesn't recognize as existing until she's important. That nobody recognizes her because she doesn't get enough screentime.

That said, lampshade hanging probably wasn't quite the right term ...
Each story or arc is focused on a character and something involving that character, and the rest of the time they are ignored or revert to default, you mean? Yeah, probably true.

True. That or it'd just have resolved a lot sooner. I just wish that some of the obvious artifical lengthening just ... well, felt better done.
Seriously though, given the concept, he HAS to be one of the shyest "I will not progress in romance" guys ever, or it would be hentai in chapter one. Sure, perhaps you could come up with better reasoning for it, or something, but with that concept it might be hard, yes? It probably is possible though. Still, while the show's "answer" of just not letting things really progress is probably not the best way to deal with it, it's not the worst either.

"Ceased to be." Let's just go with that.
"Forgotten, and nobody cared about here anymore" would be fine too.
 
I am Tobi. The entirety of Naruto was just an overly-complicated cumbersome plan by me to troll the hell out of this thread.
 
Stardust Wink volume 5

Anna was stupid for believing all the lies Nanoka told her about Ayane and Sou, which made her fight with Sou in the end, but Sou is a dick as well. I'd complain that Anna doesn't go all the way with her rage when she gets tired of saying sorry to Sou and he keeps acting like an ass, but the drama is light enough, so it ends being a forgettable complaint.
With Sou sort of breaking up with Anna to take a pause between between them to sort his own feelings (because he loves Anna but Anna doesn't love him, he tells her), I'd hope for some development with the new Hinata (Kazami) at school in the next volume, since he does seem to have a bit of a liking for Anna. At least, I'd hope for just enough to make Sou cry a bit.
Best part of the volume were the extra stories though, with Beni's brother Mashiro ending the volume telling Anna and Sou to stay close friends with their childhood friend Hinata (Tokura) but to stay unfriendly with his own little sister Beni (who's annoying even to him).
 
Thermae Romae volume 1

Great stuff. Lucio Modesto's stupor and amazement to the various techniques used in the Japanese public baths (and their own private baths, at times) is one of the best parts about the manga. Even seeing how he goes about imitating what he sees and experiences with the limited tools at his disposal in "the past" has its charm.
I feel a bit bad for the surprise Lucio finds back at home at the end of chapter 5.
The afterwords directed at the Italian readers by the author at the end of the volume were nice, as well as the double pages of text after every chapter dedicated to baths, which I need to spend more time reading.
Best part about this purchase, the first volume cost me only 1,90€. I love this trend of doing a special, low price for the first volume of new publications that lasts a month or so.
 
Suicide Club

This was a very dark read, much darker than Genkaku Picasso, but good nonetheless. Furuya is really a good artist and storyteller. The end left me with a sense of discomfort too, but it wasn't out of place.
 
A Black Falcon said:
But, he's also definitely still Keitaro, the two are quite distinct.
Seta never had Keitaro's kind of accidental-seeing-girls-naked thing, which is one of the most central things about Keitaro in the series really. They're also personality apart from that too. He didn't entirely change into what she wanted, he's still himself... but really, "he did that, on purpose or not, because she liked Seta" just isn't something I was thinking while reading it.
You do at least not think that Keitaro did it on purpose though? That's good.
I never believed he did it on purpose but the narrative put him in that spot.
Seta may have not had the whole accidental infringement thing going on but that is more due to the age/environment. He doesn't live in an apartment with like 12 girls and he is quite a bit older then the kids.
I just don't see how there is really any differences between them at the end. And differences in types of clumsiness is really not significant. The main difference between them is their age and not much else IMO. And
Seta probably acted about the same as Keitaro when he was younger based on the narrative.
A Black Falcon said:
It is possible for them to have good endings, though, so it's not like they can't do it... they just often don't.
Very rarely is how I'd phrase it. My favorite ending is Karin and I'm not sure how many people read that. It covered everything you'd want for a satisfying ending. Umisho also had a fun ending but it wasn't like it needed to tie up things. Chrno Crusade had a
sad as fuck ending
IMO but it is one of the better ones. I just wish there was like 1-2 more panels instead of a
cut-away.
There are some others but there are so many that are just terrible.
A Black Falcon said:
You mean the one where they say they "stopped halfway because they weren't prepared or ready", or something like that, or the one where they were going to try, but didn't get anywhere because the island girl happened to be in the room? I don't remember a third one which actually implied they succeeded.
There was a scene where they were alone together in Naru's room and they did a cut-away from Keitaro's room at the hole in the floor. They giggled and said something about Tokyo-U. You could find it easier then I. I believe It was right before the end. That's how I read the panel anyways.
A Black Falcon said:
Huh. Doesn't make it any better though.
The manga had potential with the MC's past. But all they did really was
run-away, cry, and shit. It doesn't have to be a battle manga but at least achieve something in the end. Consolidating romance is only a part of a good ending since anybody can say they are "together now, happily ever after, blah blah blah."
A Black Falcon said:
Is that another comedy harem manga or something? Haven't read/watched it. Is that the one with the catgirls who's also allergic to cats, or something? Or is that something else?
MC is allergic to cats but that is not really the point of the manga. It is basically a harem comedy. I like it though.
 
upandaway said:
Hayate no Gotoku

Hinagiku is really awesome. She is.. the best awesome.

Hinagiku is basically an all-around powerful force of good and proof that we're not doomed.

A Black Falcon said:
Should... yes. Will? ... This is shonen romance, give them fifty chapters.

:(

As for the mirror... so if he falls in love with one, he's saved and there's no problem? But I thought the story was that if he confessed and it wasn't mutual he'd be stuck forever, where does that leave the other person... but of course, it also said that if anyone else learned he'd be stuck and he wasn't, so yeah. They did comment in the chapter about that not proving true of course, so the rest of it is somewhat unclear too now I would think.

Due to the way that the mirror's rules were all setup
that is, second-hand information ... I imagine we can safely assume that not a single damn one is safe from editing as the story sees fit
.

While I did say that I thought the last one of those was really dumb and impossible to believe -- yeah, no way are they breaking up late in the 14th volume -- but as for the other ones... eh, I don't know. I mean, it did get old (I commented about how many times one or the other of the two of them runs away), but... at least the vol. 13 one wasn't taken very seriously. I mean, sure, it was cast as another "will they break up" arc, but no one involved actually thought they would, they just wanted to try anyway. That helped give that arc, the one in Suu's homeland, a somewhat more comic cast than some of the others, which was part of why that volume was so much fun.

It is more that they're just a bit old hat at that point. I agree that Volume 13's was more a fun romp than an actual "BREAK-UP ARCZ?!" but it still reeked of "and here we go again." Yeah, the rest of the cast isn't exactly gung-ho on the idea of it as a break up arc (seriously, anyway) so I suppose it's more of a "Seriously, more Naru insecurities?" thing.

Because, seriously, more Naru insecurities is basically the driving force of their relationship.

IU watched the anime before reading the manga, and really liked it from the beginning, so I've always had positive thoughts about the anime... and I did rewatch it (well, the original series anyway, not Again or the specials) within the past year and I still liked it quite a bit. Some episodes were weaker than others, but the good parts were great, and very funny. It's one of the better harem animes, it really is...

I'm basically the absolute opposite. I read the manga first and I used to re-read it every year or so because it's charmed it's way into my heart. Or something like that.

Is that another comedy harem manga or something? Haven't read/watched it. Is that the one with the catgirls who's also allergic to cats, or something? Or is that something else?

Guy is cursed to help cats lest he becomes one ... and he's allergic to them. So, close enough. I suppose it's closer to the comedy side of the comedy-drama romance genre, though I wouldn't expect NA levels of antics. Or harem size.

Each story or arc is focused on a character and something involving that character, and the rest of the time they are ignored or revert to default, you mean? Yeah, probably true.

And Michiro reads like, to me, a personification of that. She's treated like that within the story itselfas her "default" state is to be forgotten by the inhabitants basically.

Seriously though, given the concept, he HAS to be one of the shyest "I will not progress in romance" guys ever, or it would be hentai in chapter one. Sure, perhaps you could come up with better reasoning for it, or something, but with that concept it might be hard, yes? It probably is possible though. Still, while the show's "answer" of just not letting things really progress is probably not the best way to deal with it, it's not the worst either.

While true, it doesn't make not progress any less frustrating, y'know? Something you'd think I would've come to terms with by now with all the stuff in this genre that I read, but, that just isn't the case.

gunbo13 said:
I never believed he did it on purpose but the narrative put him in that spot.
Seta may have not had the whole accidental infringement thing going on but that is more due to the age/environment. He doesn't live in an apartment with like 12 girls and he is quite a bit older then the kids.
I just don't see how there is really any differences between them at the end. And differences in types of clumsiness is really not significant. The main difference between them is their age and not much else IMO. And
Seta probably acted about the same as Keitaro when he was younger based on the narrative.

Did or didn't, it comes down to this: Do you think it's relevant to the relationship? I really don't think it mattered, honestly; that he did or didn't wouldn't have changed the outcome of the story. He just kind of got written in that direction, which I imagine was more to keep Seta in the plot than any other reason.
 
Going to be returning to manga tonight, Skyward Sword took up a lot of my time this weekend.

Two sets of impressions, in a single week!
 
Hayate

scy said:
Hinagiku is basically an all-around powerful force of good and proof that we're not doomed.
There's something really incredible about seeing Nagi look up to someone like that. That's the best thing about her.

I've never really seen this sort of "an older, experienced version of an already really awesome yet inexperienced character" thing played out either (and I don't mean time-shifting, but different characters).

Really the best Hinagiku and Nagi moments are when they're together.

Also this girl:
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THIS GIRL.

Overreacting defensively is the most incredible thing. I like this.
 
upandaway said:
There's something really incredible about seeing Nagi look up to someone like that. That's the best thing about her.

I've never really seen this sort of "an older, experienced version of an already really awesome yet inexperienced character" thing played out either (and I don't mean time-shifting, but different characters).

Really the best Hinagiku and Nagi moments are when they're together.

Hinagiku is basically just an adorable character (HNNGHs etc.). Makes me feel bad for
how much I root for her over Nagi
. Though, I imagine I need to catch up on Hayate since there's been a lot of developments since I last read (mid-way into the
Athena arc
).
 
upandaway said:
Just to make sure, I shouldn't read those spoilers right? (ch150ish)

Neither actually mentions anything (well, the first is a spoiler if you're unaware of the genre of Hayate >>), though the second one names a future character. Probably should've made it more clear on what they were, lol. Sorry~
 
Maoyuu Maou Yuusha (ch 1-6)

-Do I need to take EconII before I read this?

MMY (that name is fucking long) was mentioned ITT by someone so I picked it up. I'm glad I did. MMY is my type of manga, at least parts of it. It is extremely similar to Spice & Wolf in how it rolls economics into the plot-line. In fact, this might as well be an econ manga since it even goes past S&W.
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Oh look, a big breasted demon queen. Ready for confident sex appeal and antics of the underworld? Prepare to be SHOCKED like fightin Elec Man.

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Yea, that guy.

The demon queen (Maou) is naive to her appearance and doesn't even work the underworld. In fact both her and Yuusha, the hero, make ownerships of each others person (basically romantically) to circumvent the demon/human war from the back-line in the human world. It might be far-fetched how easily the hero is swayed by Maou but I find it refreshing. He was able to see the truth behind the war based on Maou's detailed economic analysis. So I like the characters, including the new ones introduced after the intro. That's a good thing. And I am a huge fan of the economics involved since it is similar to Spice & Wolf, which I also really enjoy. Maou spends her time in the human world under guise manipulating markets starting with farming initiatives and trade negations.

However, the manga does have an identity crisis. Out of nowhere Yuusha leaves to find an old compatriot of his in the demon world leaving Maou to her business ventures. He is way too ungodly powerful but this is done to not turn this into a battle manga. Any battle footage is instant and tilted in a ridiculous manner. Meanwhile, Maou is running a school and manipulating markets to put an end to the financial evils that keep the war going. So what type of manga is this? It has romance from the two who basically exchanged vows but the identity is really vague. I'm thinking it is more of a kingdom battle setup with the economics and quests surround this. But Yuusha went on his own quest totally unrelated to the economic plots...and his other previous companion is teaching sword classes at Maou's school... It is a bit jumbled.

Finally, that fucking art. I was like who drew this, wow? The color pages absolutely pop and could be straight ported to an anime. Hell, this series should have an anime just based on what I'm seeing so far. It's serialized in comp ace so there is hope for approval relating to 11 Eyes (which is shit), Amagami, Canaan (eh), etc... If you are on the fence, at least check this series out for the art. The big boobs on Maou also are not a bad sight.

Ch in 6 (economics, maou, hero, war, demons, agriculture)
 
gunbo13 said:
So what type of manga is this? It has romance from the two who basically exchanged vows but the identity is really vague. I'm thinking it is more of a kingdom battle setup with the economics and quests surround this. But Yuusha went on his own quest totally unrelated to the economic plots...and his other previous companion is teaching sword classes at Maou's school... It is a bit jumbled.

I think it's just a city building sim with a storyline~ Anyway, I don't know. It's pretty young right now so maybe it'll get some clear direction coming up. I'm just going to guess it's going to focus on the building of the city until we get a basis for characters (both in terms of characterization and count) to work with. I think the Hero was sent off to collect-a-thon a harem for down the road for when they want to get the romance bits started. Or maybe that's just my wishful (cynical?) thinking.

Finally, that fucking art. I was like who drew this, wow? The color pages absolutely pop and could be straight ported to an anime. Hell, this series should have an anime just based on what I'm seeing so far. It's serialized in comp ace so there is hope for approval relating to 11 Eyes (which is shit), Amagami, Canaan (eh), etc... If you are on the fence, at least check this series out for the art. The big boobs on Maou also are not a bad sight.

Dear lord yes, the art is pretty. Oh so very pretty. Maou fanservice isn't totally necessary but I wouldn't say I'm complaining about it.
 
gunbo13 said:
Maoyuu Maou Yuusha (ch 1-6)

Oh yeah, I read this too and uhm .. liked it a lot.

I can't write long posts about things that are just ''good'', It's so hard to come up with inventive things to say when you're actually meant to be positive, rather than complaining.


Honestly though, I love how it's pretty much an educational story handled well.
 
A Black Falcon said:
Should... yes. Will? ... This is shonen romance, give them fifty chapters. :p
Though Saki's confession did happen surprisingly quickly, still, in this genre...

Oh, and while it'd be nice if it stayed in the triangle it is now, I'd be kind of surprised if it did, and didn't become harem... now that there are three, it'd be easy (if probably annoying from a plot standpoint) to add more.

Decent chapter though, Saki is amusing.

As for the mirror... so if he falls in love with one, he's saved and there's no problem? But I thought the story was that if he confessed and it wasn't mutual he'd be stuck forever, where does that leave the other person... but of course, it also said that if anyone else learned he'd be stuck and he wasn't, so yeah. They did comment in the chapter about that not proving true of course, so the rest of it is somewhat unclear too now I would think.


Kanako gets more bearable in the last couple of volumes once she's receeded into minor character status again... but while she's the main focus of the plot she's just awful. The quasi-incestuous obsession, the "turning it into an inn" thing, the fact that she's basically the main focus of the plot for way too long (the other girls barely get anything, apart from a bit with Naru)... it's awful.


While I did say that I thought the last one of those was really dumb and impossible to believe -- yeah, no way are they breaking up late in the 14th volume -- but as for the other ones... eh, I don't know. I mean, it did get old (I commented about how many times one or the other of the two of them runs away), but... at least the vol. 13 one wasn't taken very seriously. I mean, sure, it was cast as another "will they break up" arc, but no one involved actually thought they would, they just wanted to try anyway. That helped give that arc, the one in Suu's homeland, a somewhat more comic cast than some of the others, which was part of why that volume was so much fun.

Was there foot-dragging, though? Yes, certainly.


IU watched the anime before reading the manga, and really liked it from the beginning, so I've always had positive thoughts about the anime... and I did rewatch it (well, the original series anyway, not Again or the specials) within the past year and I still liked it quite a bit. Some episodes were weaker than others, but the good parts were great, and very funny. It's one of the better harem animes, it really is...

As for Again and the specials, I remember liking the specials, for the most part, but not so much Again. Of course, given that Again has Kanako in it, that isn't surprising... :p I haven't seen either in several years though. (I do remember that Again wasn't considered as good as the original series at the time either though, I don't think it was just me.)
...are you having a long scholarly debate about Love Hina? It's about clothes getting removed in various ways.

I also don't quite get the manga obsession with confessions. Is this a Japanese cultural thing or just a manga thing.
 
Angry Grimace said:
...are you having a long scholarly debate about Love Hina? It's about clothes getting removed in various ways.

Hey, if others can debate <insert something here>, I'll be damned if I won't debate my harems.

Besides, it's interesting.

I also don't quite get the manga obsession with confessions. Is this a Japanese cultural thing or just a manga thing.

The stress, nervousness, and awkwardness from confessions make up 73.81% of their power supply somehow; it's an essential commodity.
 
scy said:
Hey, if others can debate <insert something here>, I'll be damned if I won't debate my harems.

Besides, it's interesting.



The stress, nervousness, and awkwardness from confessions make up 73.81% of their power supply somehow; it's an essential commodity.
Oh no, don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with it. I just think it's funny since having read Love Hina, the main point was removing clothes.

I remember that super awkward aborted arc at the end where Keitaro was going to deflower Naru but the rest of his harem kept showing up which was all very weird and Akamatsu just ended up cutting off the arc in favor of the ending timeskip.
 
Angry Grimace said:
Oh no, don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with it. I just think it's funny since having read Love Hina, the main point was removing clothes.

Clothes removing is an art form!

...

Honestly, it's weird/refreshing seeing what other discussions that pop up in here between the Big Three / WSJ releases. It's just all over the place~

I remember that super awkward aborted arc at the end where Keitaro was going to deflower Naru but the rest of his harem kept showing up which was all very weird and Akamatsu just ended up cutting off the arc in favor of the ending timeskip.

Time for sex!

OH MAN WHERE'D THIS
TURTLE
COME FROM.
 
survivor said:
Did you see the high quality pic that has all the characters? You see it for the credits of each chapter, but they cut off most of it.
Yea, it's quite something. Love the art.
scy said:
I think the Hero was sent off to collect-a-thon a harem for down the road for when they want to get the romance bits started. Or maybe that's just my wishful (cynical?) thinking.
The mage is clearly female and likes the hero a lot (enough to chase after him into the demon world). So does the female swordman based on her reactions. So I don't think it is far fetched and I see it being quite plausible. Should be a square.
scy said:
Honestly, it's weird/refreshing seeing what other discussions that pop up in here between the Big Three / WSJ releases. It's just all over the place~
Hey Infinite, it wasn't me this time. See, see.
scy said:
Time for sex!

OH MAN WHERE'D THIS
TURTLE
COME FROM.
I swear there was that cut-away panel that totally implied sex before the epilogue. I described it above. Am I going crazy? It wasn't like that deep space nine shit from Otaku no Musume-san but felt quite obvious. IDK anymore...
 
gunbo13 said:
The mage is clearly female and likes the hero a lot (enough to chase after him into the demon world). So does the female swordman based on her reactions. So I don't think it is far fetched and I see it being quite plausible. Should be a square.

I'm expecting a hexagon. We'll throw the older sister maid in somehow. Maybe a fairy or something else during the expedition to find the Mage...

I swear there was that cut-away panel that totally implied sex before the epilogue. I described it above. Am I going crazy? It wasn't like that deep space nine shit from Otaku no Musume-san but felt quite obvious. IDK anymore...

I think you're referring to
the literally last panel before the epilogue. If so, it's just a shot of the hole (with the doll) with a quick line about Todai thing that drove the plot. I mean, I guess you can see it as them in there but there's not much to go on about. If I remember, it goes Keitaro and Naru find the time capsule from their childhood, kiss in front of the university, and then the shot of her room with the "Two people enter yada yada blah blah" line. So, pretty much up to you if you want to think they shacked up after finding the capsule or what.
 
scy said:
I think you're referring to
the literally last panel before the epilogue. If so, it's just a shot of the hole (with the doll) with a quick line about Todai thing that drove the plot. I mean, I guess you can see it as them in there but there's not much to go on about. If I remember, it goes Keitaro and Naru find the time capsule from their childhood, kiss in front of the university, and then the shot of her room with the "Two people enter yada yada blah blah" line. So, pretty much up to you if you want to think they shacked up after finding the capsule or what.
Yea, that one.
The entire issue with them hooking up was being alone and not screwing shit up. So in the last panel they are alone...in Naru's room...at night...giggling...nothing screwing things up...and they show a cut-away from Keitaro's room. I read it as finally they did the deed. But like you said, it is an interpretation.
 
gunbo13 said:
I swear there was that cut-away panel that totally implied sex before the epilogue. I described it above. Am I going crazy? It wasn't like that deep space nine shit from Otaku no Musume-san but felt quite obvious. IDK anymore...
I'm pretty sure we can assume they were bumping uglies by the time they got married at the end.
 
gunbo13 said:
Yea, that one.
The entire issue with them hooking up was being alone and not screwing shit up. So in the last panel they are alone...in Naru's room...at night...giggling...nothing screwing things up...and they show a cut-away from Keitaro's room. I read it as finally they did the deed. But like you said, it is an interpretation.

Well,
there's no indication they're in the room. And there's no cut-away from Keitaro's room (they're at the University together in the prior scenes). It's just a sudden shot of the doll on the door with the "Did you know ... that if two people in love go to Tokyo University ..." line.

A Huge Battleship said:
Enjoy Hayate while you can. Currently it's doing a shitty impression of Bakuman.

Whaaaaa :(
 
scy said:
Well,
there's no indication they're in the room. And there's no cut-away from Keitaro's room (they're at the University together in the prior scenes). It's just a sudden shot of the doll on the door with the "Did you know ... that if two people in love go to Tokyo University ..." line.
Yea, that's right.
It is more of a cut-to Keitaro's room. But their objective for a few chapters was successful alone time right? So they cut to Keitaro's room with them both alone in Naru's room /success. They state a lovey dovey line with giggles. So to me, the scene at Tokyo U was a reset, like bringing the antics to a close. They then went back to the apartment complex and shacked up. It was like a return to the source thing showing the hole in the floor and how they met. And they closed the deal in the very room that they had so many encounters as opposed to a hotel or whatever else they tried. IMO it brought closure to the Tokyo U thing, the sex, and a return to form.

That's how I saw it anyway. Why else would they cut to that scene not showing both of them? There is no other scene like that in the manga and they were trying to have sex.
Angry Grimace said:
I'm pretty sure we can assume they were bumping uglies by the time they got married at the end.
Very true but I still think that panel was the first.
 
TWGOK

FAIL. Keima is screwing up big time. It was great to see him hesitate and not know what to do at all with a girl that actually likes him, but nope, he ends up screwing up anyway. I wonder how bad the fallout from this is going to be.

(And I'm not even a Chihiro fan. Her fanbase must be losing it lol)
 
TWGOK 166 - Oh lord. Look, I expected something like this but with a little more TLC. I've seen more loving murders.

C'mon Keima. You should know better with all the dating sim experience; this is death flags
elaborate hoax reveal next week
 
given the posts (can't read it yet) its sounds just as i expected.


Brokasten needs to pack some weapons right now :P

scy said:
TWGOK 166 - Oh lord. Look, I expected something like this but with a little more TLC. I've seen more loving murders.

C'mon Keima. You should know better with all the dating sim experience; this is death flags
elaborate hoax reveal next week

Its funny how he can be both Genre Savvy and Genre Blind at the same time.
 
TWGOK


Wow that was awesome, Keima flat out not understanding how non-game romance could even work is pretty interesting, he's always been a character with a huge disconnect from reality, but this might be one of the first points where he's undeniably confronted with it himself.


I feel like the overly harsh end given by Keima might largely relate to this, rather than giving it his ''hopeless'' silly spin like he'd normally do, I'd almost say that the reality of him just not understanding it at all made him bite back hard, like a struck dog.


I'm extremely curious what'll happen in the next chapter, because this is about as ''shit just hit the fan'' as this chapter could've possible gone.
 
Hayate

Rich girl: "I'm not going to the dentist it's scary"

Hayate: "I know! Let's let this old man ghost possess her for the appointment!"

*old man possesses girl*

Rich girl: "I'm not going to the dentist, you idiot. Hahahaha!"

Hayate: "What? Why?!"

Rich girl: "Why, you ask?" *evil smile* "It's because... I'm scared of dentists too!!"


Hahaha wow. Phew. Oh my god.

I need to calm down.. oh man.
 
It's part of some plan right?

RIGHT?

HE CAN'T BE REALLY SERIOUS?
 
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