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Mario Kart 8 : new trailer
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prag16
Banned
It's not exactly the same (especially in terms of the future lineup), but "complete opposite" I don't think is a very accurate characterization for most people. For example the few people I know with PS4s haven't touched them in several weeks and have gone back to PS3 or PC for the time being (these particular people weren't interested in Second Son). And it's not just anecdotal. If you've been here any length of time, you'll know that sentiment is very comment on gaf, along with the sentiment that RIGHT NOW Wii U's lineup is more compelling than PS4bone (albeit it needed a year's headstart to get there). There's very little in terms of exclusives right now.
BruiserBear
Banned
If you look at the last few entries, each of them added something which seems purely gimmicky, with almost no consequence to the gameplay. Motorcycles, gliding/under water, and now anti grav hover wheels. I guess they add visual variety, but ultimately they change nothing, and I guess I want just a little something more out of it.
For example, I would love to see them straight up go for plane races. Diddy Kong Racing style. Little old fashioned bi-planes! Likewise. What about little speed boats on water? Having to deal with waves, or power ups that increase the wake behind your boat. I'd eat that up!
So I see they're trying to change it up just slightly, but I feel like they could take it just a little bit further, and make the game feel truly fresh. I'll be buying this game day one, because it looks gorgeous and well, just because, but man, if they offered the real planes or boat races, I'd be giddy with excitement.
Your argument is hypocritical. You can't say, for example, that underwater gameplay "adds nothing" and is purely "visual variety" when it actually changed the speed, the way the karts and items handle, and allow control in more of a three dimensional space, and yet say karting on the surface in a different-skinned vehicle, with boosts on waves or whatever, is "more than just a gimmick".
Besides, it's Mario KART. It's a kart racer.
BruiserBear
Banned
I don't think it's hypocritical at all. Yes, the karts felt slightly different under water, but those sections last about 5-10 seconds. Hardly enough time to really matter. I'm suggesting entire levels on the water, where you can introduce wave physics, which would truly change up the gameplay. Same goes for flying races, where they could introduce wind effects and related power ups.
As for your "karts" comment. No one seemed to complain when the motorcycles showed up, even though I thought they made no sense. Might as well just take it further IMO.
uncleniccius
Member
Question: what do the coins actually do? I haven't played 7.
Increase the kart's speed. Up to 10 coins.
uncleniccius
Member
Thanks! That seems like a good idea actually!
Doesn't the Sonic game already do that? And didn't they do it out of the necessity of differentiating themselves from THE Kart game series everyone dreads to compete with?
Mario Kart basically created the genre. I'd rather see them continue to polish and be creative within the classic Kart racing framework, than going after the "me too" games that as of late are trying harder not to be so similar.
There is a lot to improve and introduce without having to dilute the essence of the series.
Just buy Sonic Racing Transformed. Its also on Wii U.
Jaded Alyx
Member
I can't help but think of what Pokken might look like now...
SoraanTribal
Member
You pretty much want Mario Kart to turn into Sonic Racing Transformed. I would actually have no problem with that as I love SRT (amazing game), but I don't think it would be wise for Nintendo to straight up copy another game. To be fair, SRT is basically Diddy Kong Racing, so it isn't exactly original either.
I am curious on how Nintendo is going to top this game as far as track design goes. These are, by far, the best looking and most interesting tracks in the series. If they remove anti-grav for MK9, I just think the track design will get so boring again. I hope they keep it.
BruiserBear
Banned
You pretty much want Mario Kart to turn into Sonic Racing Transformed. I would actually have no problem with that as I love SRT (amazing game), but I don't think it would be wise for Nintendo to straight up copy another game. To be fair, SRT is basically Diddy Kong Racing, so it isn't exactly original either.
I am curious on how Nintendo is going to top this game as far as track design goes. These are, by far, the best looking and most interesting tracks in the series. If they remove anti-grav for MK9, I just think the track design will get so boring again. I hope they keep it.
I never played SRT, but did that have any water or air physics, because I think that could be the big differentiator if Nintendo nailed it.
SoraanTribal
Member
Yep, the boats and planes handle very differently from karts . You should give it a go - it's basically what you are wanting. It's a fantastic kart racer.
Gotta wait till E3 i guess, although i gotta say SSB4 isn't being done any favors visually when compared to MK8 and the inevitable Pokken comparisons that will pop up if and when it is revealed.
Yeah, but play the PC version if possible. The console versions run at 30 FPS, and there are times when it dips below that.
People don't really think this is coming, right? This has to be a joke post.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Yes, on both accounts. Though I think SRT would've been a better game it did not have air segments.
I assume you do understand though the difference between an optional vehicle and a radical (and not optional) change in a game's structure.
And the motorcycles are perfectly fine:
PotionBleue
Member
Sort of achievements maybe, like in Nintendo Land or Wii Sports Club, with Miiverse sharing? That would be nice.
There are tracks like Cheep Cheep Lagoon or Wario Shipyard where the majority is spent underwater. Look, your suggestion has already been implemented, 3 years ago! So much for people asking for new features when they're already there, lol. Absolutely ridiculous.
Personally, I don't agree with this at all. I don't have an X1 and don't plan on getting one, so I'm just looking at the PS4. And multiplats/indies don't do anything for me since I can get most of them them on PC. Granted PS+ is great and I get nice games from that. But there isn't a lot there for me aside from The Witness and maybe the Order. Meanwhile, Nintendo has tons of exclusives that look great coming in the next year or so
Jaded Alyx
Member
..no?
SoraanTribal
Member
Oh for sure, the PC version is definitely the best one. Not just in performance, but the PC version kept getting patches and free characters for a while there.
Skyfireblaze
Member
Well that depends, bikes could do wheelies in Mario Kart Wii which karts couldn't do so they had a distinct tactical usage on straights. Wheelies basically gave you a speed-boost at the expense of control for a short duration.
Options/popularity more than anything. Atlease they're even with karts unlike wii lol.
PotionBleue
Member
They probably have different stats (in MKWii they already were in general slower and lighter than karts I'm talking about the BASE STATS here, they were superior due to their inward drifts & wheelies)
They probably have a thinner hitbox
Some bikes seem to have a hybrid inward/outward drift, something we haven't seen on any kart yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK1J1O13Ddk&hd=1&t=2s (Metal Mario)
Super Mario Kart. Made you go slightly faster.
Considering the entire anti grav mechanic couldn't they simply stop bikes from doing wheelies in an anti grav section (Which would make sense since the wheels turn sideways anyway). Essentially forcing the player to choose potential shortcuts/speed boost vs wheelie boosts in straightaway's.
As opposed to this blanket removal that makes them essentially pointless to have in the first place.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Bikes can't do wheelies at will in MK8. It's just a animation when they use a Mushroom/boost.
Magicpaint
Member
That's actually good to hear. Wheelies made Bikes way OP compared to Karts and I never used Karts after trying out Bikes in MKWii.
Davey Cakes
Member
I'm really glad they decided to balance this.
I always preferred Karts myself but would always see people using Bikes because they were so advantageous.
Pokken ain't real
Online was boring on Wii because of all the Funky Kung with a bike all day everyday.
Masuda teased about it.
Ipsoclipso
Member
It's only because the Smash team and Sakurai wants SSB4 to run at native 1080p resolution at 60fps.
StreetsAhead
Member
Debatable. Most of these games are on pc and cheaper too...theres currently not much on these consoles that make them worthwhile if youre not into triple a shooters...that can be played on pc...
all the amazing exclusives for the xbox one and ps4 like, erm, infamous and erm ryse
you could say that about a lot of game series
That is really good to hear, because I was always trying to use bikes in MKwii because I knew they were better, but I never really could master them like other people obviously did.
One thing I saw in the footage recently that does have me a bit bummed out in MK8 is that I saw it's 12 racers again....I just don't feel that's a good number for Mario Kart. The amount of items that can get thrown around with that many racers is one of the things that I felt made MKWii feel like complete chaos. MK7 felt so much more balanced because it was taken back down to 8 racers.
"Better." That's easily stopped by getting better at the game. Don't stoop to handicap combinations (like Metal Mario / B Dasher / Red Monster tires in Mario Kart 7), as it's much more satisfying to win without them...
so you're telling me that Mario Kart 8 is just another Mario Kart game..?
can't get anything past you!
A shame the accelleration stat not working correctly in 7 usually makes it better to go for all out speed but yeah beating MM users is satifing lol.
Yeah, except for the trademark.
Personally, Pokemon Purple was my favorite in the series.
yeah yeah, japanese trademark vs. international trademark, but still.
Skyfireblaze
Member
Hmm that's a good idea I wonder how Nintendo will handle this
Your idea makes alot of sense and sounds balanced. My friends and me basically neglect karts in MK Wii since we are a good deal faster with bikes however I had no idea that karts in general were faster o.o
Gotta wait till E3 i guess, although i gotta say SSB4 isn't being done any favors visually when compared to MK8 and the inevitable Pokken comparisons that will pop up if and when it is revealed.
SSB4 and "Pokkén" will likely be accomplishing different things, respective for them to be different types of (fighting) games entirely.
Not to mention Hoshino (of Namco's Project Soul) apparently tweeted about the event where this concept shot was revealed, but then said tweet was deleted shortly afterward.
I wouldn't be surprised if Zelda Musou and "Pokkén" both stand as examples of how Nintendo is much more willing to open the floodgates with collabs of this sort.
But no way would they make a pokemon fighting, espacially with a name as rediculous as...
Yeah, except for the trademark.
Hmmm. I still have doubts about it, personally I think it's another stadium game.
Don't forget that it also has to be able to run on the 3DS, at a stable 60 FPS no less. They probably had to cut down on the complexity of the models and effects to do that.