Com Truise
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I don't think they've ever had that image, so that would be news to me too. The Switch accessory pricing is pretty much just "fuck you give me money", for example.
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Mario Kart 8 - Switch vs Wii U comparison
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WrenchNinja
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Did they add anything for single player? Adventure mode? Mission mode? Anything?
Because support for the Wii U version ended immediately after they released that last bit of DLC. And any money they could make by offering just the Battle Mode to Wii U version owners would probably end up making them lose money for the work put in to patch in all of that stuff and figure out what to do with the existing battle tracks the Wii U version has -- remove them? More work for them and essentially taking content away from Wii U version owners.
Basically, the cost of doing it probably outweighed what they would gain by doing it. It made more sense to them to just do this release rather than both this release and DLC.
If this was content coming out in 2016, like last year like everyone was hoping would happen, then yeah releasing it as DLC on Wii U would make sense. Now? It doesn't.
Just 200cc Grand Prix. Nothing substantial.
BarringGaffner
Member
I don't own a Switch because I felt ripped off by the Wii U and this kind of stuff just cements my position... just tired of this stuff from Nintendo and I am pretty sure I am not the only one. And yes I love MK8.
I can't really comprehend releasing the same game at full price and not giving a discount to the people that already owned it. It should be $10 for those people.
When Nintendo wises up I will be here, ready to buy whatever they are selling.
sturgboski
Member
Would Yakuza Kiwami count? Complete remaster of a PS2 title (graphics redone in 1080p/60fps and audio re-recorded) as well as updated combat system and new minigames AND other content for $40.
Plus if we are going to use the "GOTY edition" defense, shouldnt they release that on the Wii U as well?
All that aside, I mean its Mario Kart 8 Deluxe for a reason. It is differentiating itself from MK8 on the Wii U with that designation. It is not a straight GOTY edition (which is why I dont agree with that defense), rather its more akin to Persona 4 Golden (same base game PLUS a bunch of extra content AND on a different system). No one owes anyone anything, however you dont need to run out and buy the Switch and MK8 Deluxe as well.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
I'd pay $10 for the steering assist on the Wii U. My wife wants to play Mario Kart with me but I can't explain drifting to her at all and steering isn't her strong suit either.
C.Olimar788
Member
Ehehehe, pretty much. During the Wii U era Nintendo had to do things like giving away a free game with Mario Kart to harbor goodwill, but the Switch had enough excitement for it and is doing well enough now that they are back to good old company price gouging. Which, y'know, more power to them if it works. Just kinda a bummer.
If a similar situation had happened as MK8D during the Wii U, like maybe with Mario Kart Wii, I feel like Nintendo would have made a discount for previous owners. Or at least not released at $60.
th3sicknness
Member
Mario Kart 8 since it is a Nintendo title it holds its value AND has one of the best trade in values for a game... You could merely trade this to Amazon for 25 bux and pre order Mario Kart 8 for 47.99... If you have a prime card you get an additional 5 % off..
The Wii U had some of the best games Nintendo has made in a long long time... I am not going to list them ,but there were so many great exclusive titles on the system.
Also you have the choice not to buy this game on the Switch, they arent twisting your arm. This is a remaster of the original + ALL DLC along with content the original is not getting ONTOP of it being FULLY PORTABLE.. not to mention it's native 1080p. You are making it sound like there is no value in this title... This is a different platform and a different game...
No one has these kinds of issues when MSFT and Sony do the same thing and dont give people credit for the previous version they bought...
Same here. It's frustrating when I want to play with kids and non-gamers, and they keep falling off the track over and over. These kind of gameplay updates could very well make it to vanilla MK8, but Nintendo will never update a Wii U game ever again (except BotW).
MS and Sony didn't abandon the 360 and PS3 so fast as Nintendo is doing it.
TwistedFreeze
Member
To be fair, those consoles also didn't bomb like the Wii U did but I do agree that their support for their consoles dying years is rather poor and is something they need to work on. My guess as to why they don't do it is because a good chunk of their consoles aren't successful and don't have stellar third party support (meaning they have to ramp up support for their next system) as their handhelds do get some support even when their successor comes out
th3sicknness
Member
Why dont you trade your Wii U version to amazon for 20ish bux? They are running a promo for prime members where you can get it for 47.99?
47.99
-20.00 Trade-In
27.99 for definitive portable version?
If he bought the DLC, that can't be traded though.
Lol, $10 for steering assist would make everyone shout rip-off!
Triplicates
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The compensation for Mario Kart 8 Wii U was your ability to play an excellent game for hundreds of hours since 2014. The appearance of a newer, better version does nothing to diminish the $60 spent in the past before we learned about Deluxe. The controversy is a joke.
Double items and pink boost change up the single player I'd imagine. Also time trials in 200cc. Nothing substantial though.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
New games for $60 is normal, no way Nintendo would release a brand new Mario Kart game for less. Sure, some people got to play the beta on test hardware a while back but this is totally a new release on Nintendo's first new home console since the Wii.
I wonder if the Switch version will get DLC. That would tempt me more than anything new in this port, but I'd likely still pass since I won't be able to play online.
I wonder if the Switch version will get DLC. That would tempt me more than anything new in this port, but I'd likely still pass since I won't be able to play online.
Nah. I don't really like trading games that I'm fond of and in this case I don't even have the option because I went digital with MK8 (cause I knew I wouldn't trade it in) and downloaded the DLC. I'm not salty though. I know Nintendo wanted to sell a lot more copies of MK8 than they likely did and I think it's great that they're giving new customers a chance cause I think the game is fantastic. I've zero issue with playing MK8 on the Wii U. What they've added is dope lookin, but I don't want to go in $140 for the "complete" MK8 experience at this point. Haha.
th3sicknness
Member
47.99
-20.00 MK8 Wii U Trade-In (it is 23 bux right now)
27.99 for definitive portable version (included all DLC of the Wii U)
12.00 Loss from Wii U DLC Pack 1 + 2
37.99 which is roughly 22 dollars off the full retail value. If you have a amazon store card you get another 5% off. I guess if you went digital you are kinda screwed from that POV, but that is the route you take when you buy digital anything in general.
Granted you arent getting a discount from Nintendo because you got Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U.. they did you a favor by never decreasing the price of their games over their life.. Which makes trade in value much higher...
Snkfanatic
Banned
Where do people pull these strange monetary amounts from?
their butthole
Okami Haundo
Member
Great comparison! It's quite insane to see what is essentially a "portable" version of MK8 looking better than the original. This will absolutely be my new obsession starting next week even though I played the heck out of the game on Wii-U. Maybe I'll finally "finish" the 150/200CC cups.
As for a quick comment on the whole "port discount" idea. I don't feel that Nintendo "owes" me anything for supporting the game on Wii-U. I'd never scoff at a discount, but I'm also getting one via Best Buy GCU anyway. I also think that offering a discount sends a weird message. It might inspire some to get a Wii-U copy in some fashion just to get the Switch version cheaper. They just want the conversation on Switch.
As for a quick comment on the whole "port discount" idea. I don't feel that Nintendo "owes" me anything for supporting the game on Wii-U. I'd never scoff at a discount, but I'm also getting one via Best Buy GCU anyway. I also think that offering a discount sends a weird message. It might inspire some to get a Wii-U copy in some fashion just to get the Switch version cheaper. They just want the conversation on Switch.
The PS3 and 360 each sold more than the Wii U did several times over. Plenty of business decisions made by Nintendo can be reasonably challenged. Abandoning the Wii U when they did isn't one of them.
Dagobert Duck
Member
Any news when reviews will drop? Not that I care cause I will buy nonetheless just interested
I was replying to someone who said he was "baffled" that someone wouldn't buy the game for $60 twice.
You're honestly going to say you agree with him because they added a battle mode?
IDK but they will never buy it if they expect to pay this in their lifetime.
Anyway any reason is good to not buy any game on Switch, didn't you know?
MK8D is overpriced and a rip off.
Zelda is a laggy Wii U port
Splatoon 2 is a port, not a sequel (the 2 is a mute number)
ARMS looks cheap and therefore is automatically not worth the full price.
All the third party are cheap years old indies.
(Keywords in need: Stock X1, underpowered, 720p screen)
There you go, you have your guideline book to fuck up and derail every Switch game threads for the next three months!
franklyshankly
Member
That's a heck of a spin on that one.
You ever hear the story/analogy about the band that gives the same effort/level of excitement/quality for the crowd of 50 as they do for the crowd of 10,000?
That's not fair, not everyone's butthole dispenses random amounts of money. Where do I lodge my complaint and outrage for this??
Inferno313
Banned
Nintendo is free to charge $60. You're also free to not buy it at $60 and continue to play the WiiU version. If they've made an error in pricing it at $60, they'll figure that out when the sales results come in.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Not only running on a handheld but with improved performance and more content.
The Switch is one seriously impressive little piece of hardware, especially when I see it sitting next to my PS4 Pro.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Even crazier that they actually improved it. The jump in resolution is great from the footage I have seen.
Only Horizon and Zelda sold better so far this year, if Amazon figures can be extrapolated (I don't think so, but it still a sign the game sells really well at its price point).
So Nintendo should continue supporting a product with no financial future that was soundly rejected by the market because you once heard an inspiring parable?
Jaded Alyx
Member
Wildlands is probably higher than all three to be fair, but your point stands.
People are so adamant about Nintendo not needing to improve their customer loyalty by offering upgrade paths or dlc, going as far as to insult the people suggesting they should have been provided with the options.
It keeps getting brought up because that's how people feel about it, and this comparison doesn't help with that. It's not an outlandish idea, other companies have offered that and that's not after cutting support for their platform early.
It's sad that immediate sales of the Switch are more of a concern and goes to show how desperate the situation might be.
It's been said but the comparison here also doesn't look right for the WiiU. Something about the footage seems a lot worse than what the WiiU version is actually like.
I hope they aren't that desperate to screw with the footage.
It keeps getting brought up because that's how people feel about it, and this comparison doesn't help with that. It's not an outlandish idea, other companies have offered that and that's not after cutting support for their platform early.
It's sad that immediate sales of the Switch are more of a concern and goes to show how desperate the situation might be.
It's been said but the comparison here also doesn't look right for the WiiU. Something about the footage seems a lot worse than what the WiiU version is actually like.
I hope they aren't that desperate to screw with the footage.
Oh, someone is desperate, that's for sure.
th3sicknness
Member
Of course the Switch sales are the immediate concern no one is buying the Wii U anymore...... The consumers spoke and said the Wii U wasnt what they wanted the PS4 sold 5 times the amount of the Wii U in less time... So Nintendo in response hung on as long as they could until the release of Zelda BOTW to release the Switch (They didnt even have to do that, they could have moved Zelda to the switch if they wanted).. Nintendo's first concern should be making money so that they can provide us with gameplay experiences in the future.. This is reflected in their final decision to charge for online so they could offer a better online experience with features yet to be determined.... in order to do that they have to sell units.
Not sure what you are talking about as far as "footage".. Are you talking about the thread video? Because it seemed pretty accurate to me.. Nintendo cant account for youtube compression and third parties.. 1080p is just a lot cleaner than 720p and the performance of the Switch in general is much better than the Wii U..
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
What is wild land?
Case in point.
Just sad.
Selling units by strong-arming people into upgrading at full price for little additional content when their platform of choice was scrapped early isn't a good long-term plan.
The wiiu video looks just awful, quite a few people have noticed it and have said it's strange. It doesn't look right - the fps or the speed, something.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Ghost Recon
You're insinuating that Nintendo might be screwing with the footage to make the Switch version look better, and I'm the sad one? You're in your own universe.
Exceptions are not norms, or are you that dense to not understand that?
CrunchyFrog
Member
Looks nice and all, but battle mode should have totally been a DLC option for Wii U owners, that's garbo no two ways about it.
You and several other sure seem to jump to conclusions and draw the wrong conclusions a lot. You also seem to imply shit that just isn't there.
Does the shit need to be spelled out so plainly for you?
Look, the Point was in direct contrast to the quote that 360/ps3 sold tons more than WiiU. So you shouldn't expect anything from them. The point of the storu is, regardless of how many they sold vs competition companies should still treat their customers the same whether they sell 10 million units of 100 million. We can devate what level of discourse that is and to what extent. I honestly think they supported Wiiu fine. That's not what the point of my post was about.
However, There isn't much more to talk about here.
You disagree, its fine, it doesn't mean people shouldn't voice an equally valid dissenting opinion or belief. No one is trying to change minds or influence buyers here. Its a discussion board and I feel like I've seen enough comments here that want to shut down any differing voice enough that it is off putting. There isn't a right or wrong here. Just a way we each fall on the spectrum regarding an entertainment product.