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Mark Wahlberg seeks pardon for 1988 assaults.

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No.

Seriously what are you doing right now. This is like absolutely the single worst way to react to people admitting you have a point.

Sorry I hit ctr-something and it submitted. You are welcome to read my post.

But.. probably just going to bail on the thread. You need to calm down lol.
 
I'm surprised the system didn't destroy him. I wonder how he got away from an assault charge against two people while in the act of robbery and evading police? Why kinds of magical power does take for such a thing to even be possible?

If I was in his situation, I'd never speak of it again because I'd be convinced that they made a mistake to let me get away to the point I can live a normal life. It boggles my mind that he's demanding a pardon. It's almost as bad as demanding an apology for committing a crime!

SERIOUSLY... LIKE HOLY SHIT!
 
I'm surprised the system didn't destroy him. I wonder how he got away from an assault charge against two people while in the act of robbery and evading police? Why kinds of magical power does take for such a thing to even be possible?

If I was in his situation, I'd never speak of it again because I'd be convinced that they made a mistake to let me get away to the point I can live a normal life. It boggles my mind that he's demanding a pardon. It's almost as bad as demanding an apology for committing a crime!

SERIOUSLY... LIKE HOLY SHIT!

Yes but as he says he committed this crime under the influence of marijuana so deserves a pardon.
 
I'm so mind-fucked right now. I have no idea what just happened.

Point out where any of my posts remotely resemble this::

BobbyRoberts said:
I linked you the fucking facts you're quoting in the first place, man. Jesus. I admitted it's an inference, and tried to explain, so that you might have some sort of understanding beyond the basic "vendetta against the famous" reasoning you're running with, as to why people are making the inference based on the facts as reported.

You're being super-combative and argumentative even when people are conceding points to you.

I'm not even really arguing with you, I'm wondering why you're continuing to return to the argument as if the steps that happened AFTER the concession of the point were made. That's the part that doesn't make sense.

a) Where does he say this?
b) this is the quote they're referencing, it's from 2006 though, so he might ha--
a) this doesn't say exactly what they think it said
b) True, it says A, and it says C, so people are inferring B.
a) BUT IT DOESN"T SAY WHAT PEOPLE SAID IT SAYS WHY ARE YOU LYING TO AMERICA.
b) I know it doesn't, I just agreed, but I'm trying to
a) LOOK AT ALL THESE LIARS LYING ABOUT THEIR STUPID INFERENCES
b) wtf

Yeah, you need to calm down.

Or not.. don't really care... really do need to get going so I won't be responding (just stating that as I don't like getting into convos and then just bailing with no notice.)
 
Yes but as he says he committed this crime under the influence of marijuana so deserves a pardon.

Yup..it's like a combination of bath salts and PCP...marijuana turns people into violent psychotic monsters..who does he think he's fooling throwing that lame excuse in there?
 
Imagine being the blind guy waking up everyday only to hear about the success stories about Wahlberg and how he doesn't need to apologize. ugh.
 
Uh... Pardons excuse an offense--they don't forgive them. I am totally fine with forgiving Mark because it was in the distant past and he is probably a very different person now. But that doesn't excuse that it happened. Keep the blemish as a reminder that people can change.
 
why would you draw attention to, or give a fuck about this at this point in your very rich life? what negative consequences is he currently suffering from?
 
I doubt finding a homeless guy from 26 years ago is the easiest thing in the world.

Would be nice to get some direct quotes and not paraphrased ones. Him not correcting ABC for something they infer doesn't mean shit either.

Still doesn't mean he deserves a pardon.
 
Just looking up info on that guy he blinded, and man, if you're ever in the same room as mark wahlberg and a stick you better get the fuck out of there.

That's 3 people he hit in the head with a stick? What's his fuckin problem?
 
Just looking up info on that guy he blinded, and man, if you're ever in the same room as mark wahlberg and a stick you better get the fuck out of there.

That's 3 people he hit in the head with a stick? What's his fuckin problem?

He was a dumb kid? People make mistakes? I'm not saying he was right, and sure he was an asshole, but he's clearly turned it around. People do deserve second chances, maybe you disagree, I guess we'll leave it at that.

edit- or maybe they should've locked him away and just been done with him, let the system deal with him and have him back every few years.
 
I'm not saying he's a Cosby level monster, but ever since I learned that he did this and is unapologetic, I've wanted him to be shamed back into private life. Fuck Mark Wahlberg.
 
Our judiciary system is broken. Celebrities get the free pass in the name of charity and social status.
 
He was a dumb kid? People make mistakes? I'm not saying he was right, and sure he was an asshole, but he's clearly turned it around. People do deserve second chances, maybe you disagree, I guess we'll leave it at that.

edit- or maybe they should've locked him away and just been done with him, let the system deal with him and have him back every few years.
Being a dumb kid is breaking a lamp or saying something stupid. Blinding a guy is not being "a dumb kid".
 
Last night at a theater there was a poster for some upcoming movie with Wahlberg. I pointed at it and said to my friend, "Look at that asshole." It was precognition.
 
He spent 20 years trying to improve himself and make up for his shitty choices as a teenager. He has been heavily involved in charity and foundations to help the homeless and fund youth services to help the kinds of teenagers that he himself was. Poor, angry, and stuck in a violent shitty environment. He has every right after that long and the efforts he has made to better himself and society to no longer burden himself with guilt. I realize that isn't what some of you want to hear since any opportunity to scream at another human being about how terrible they are makes you feel like a better person in comparison, but the fact is he isn't deserving of the hate he gets. Not unless you willfully ignore everything he has actually said and done since then, and just get your views from single sentence comments on message boards.
 
He spent 20 years trying to improve himself and make up for his shitty choices as a teenager. He has been heavily involved in charity and foundations to help the homeless and fund youth services to help the kinds of teenagers that he himself was. Poor, angry, and stuck in a violent shitty environment. He has every right after that long and the efforts he has made to better himself and society to no longer burden himself with guilt. I realize that isn't what some of you want to hear since any opportunity to scream at another human being about how terrible they are makes you feel like a better person in comparison, but the fact is he isn't deserving of the hate he gets. Not unless you willfully ignore everything he has actually said and done since then, and just get your views from single sentence comments on message boards.

I'm fine with all that but it still doesn't mean he deserves a pardon.
 
You know, I know that it might not be conducive to the tone the OP wanted to steer this thread toward, but it might be salient to the conversation if you had included Wahlberg's actual statement from the article in the op as well:

"I have not engaged in philanthropic efforts in order to make people forget about my past," Wahlberg says in the application. "To the contrary, I want people to remember my past so that I can serve as an example of how lives can be turned around and how people can be redeemed."

"Rather than ignore or deny my troubled past, I have used the public spotlight to speak openly about the mistakes I made as a teenager so that others do not make those same mistakes,"

edit: it was quoted a few times on the last page! No excuses, op.
 
You know, I know that it might not be conducive to the tone the OP wanted to steer this thread toward, but it might be salient to the conversation if you had included Wahlberg's actual statement from the article in the op as well:



edit: it was quoted a few times on the last page! No excuses, op.

So he doesn't want to apologize!
 
I dunno, donating millions to charity is a free ride on blinding a couple dudes if you ask me. I doubt I can make that large an impact on as many people's lives in my lifetime. People like to ignore charitable donations from celebrities because it's relatively impersonal, but just try to imagine how many people can be helped. Is he a jerk for not apologizing? Maybe, but I'm not gonna try to discredit the guy as a human being.
 
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";141727102]I dunno, donating millions to charity is a free ride on blinding a couple dudes if you ask me. I doubt I can make that large an impact on as many people's lives in my lifetime. People like to ignore charitable donations from celebrities because it's relatively impersonal, but just try to imagine how many people can be helped. Is he a jerk for not apologizing? Maybe, but I'm not gonna try to discredit the guy as a human being.[/QUOTE]

What were his charitable donations and how much did he donate?
 
Thanks!

Relevant bit:



I hate that they don't actually quote him explaining that he hasn't apologized to the guy.

He outright says "you have to go ask for forgiveness".. it almost implies he did.

But who knows?

He's an easy target as long as people just keep repeating that he refuses to apologize.

Spouting unsubstantiated facts to damn someone is an epidemic here; among some of the most popular and prolific posters..

Who tend to conveniently disappear.

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"Hasn't apologized" is not synonymous with "unapologetic." He does sound remorseful. He's going to be doing publicity for The Gambler soon, so I'm sure he'll be talking more about this.
 
Mark Wahlberg is absolutely the same racist, homophobic piece of garbage he always has been, but he knows he can't express his true bigotry or else he would kiss his career goodbye.

Please note guys that Mark has on MULTIPLE occasions beaten up Asians. He didn't just permanently blind one Vietnamese man, but on another occasion, he smashed another Vietnamese man's head in, leaving him bleeding and unconscious on the street.

Nobody runs around bashing MULTIPLE Vietnamese people (whilst shouting racist slurs) or thrown rocks at black people calling them the N word, and just suddenly switches off those thoughts.

What's truly scary is i'm sure there are plenty more attacks that he got away with and aren't reported.

Furthermore, what I can't stand about Mark Wahlberg is that he is super religious (he chose not to do Brokeback Mountain because of religious issues - so clearly he thinks there is something wrong with being gay), yet for some reason he never had a problem banging a whole bunch of women outside marriage (not to mention having kids born out of wedlock...a MAJOR no no in Catholicism, well, except for hypocrite super Catholic Marky Mark I guess).

He's just an all round sick fuck. Cannot stand him!

Here's a little bit of reading material on this degenerate. Note he bashed two Vietnamese men in two completely separate attacks in just one night. Must of been a busy night of Asian bashing for Marky Mark.....

Oh, and Mark didn't just scream out "Vietnamese fucking shits" but also "SLANT EYED GOOKS"...


Criminal Complaint
In the Suffolk County Superior Court, Commonwealth of Massachusetts
1988

At approximately 9:00 p.m. on April 8, 1988 Thanh Lam, a Vietnamese adult male who resides in Dorchester, traveled by car to 998 Dorchester Avenue, Dorchester, Massachusetts. At 998 Dorchester Avenue, Thanh Lam left his car carrying two cases of beer. As he crossed the sidewalk, Mark Wahlberg attacked Thanh Lam. Wahlberg was carrying a large wooden stick, approximately five feet long and two to three inches in diameter. Wahlberg approached Thanh Lam calling him a "Vietnam fucking shit," then hit him over the head with the stick. Thanh Lam was knocked to the ground unconscious. The stick broke in two and was later recovered from the scene. Thanh Lam was treated overnight at Boston City Hospital.

After police arrested Wahlberg later on the night of April 8, 1988, Wahlberg was informed of his rights and returned to the scene of 998 Dorchester Avenue. In the presence of two police officers, he stated: "You don't have to let him identify me, I'll tell you now that's the mother-fucker who's head I split open," or words to that effect.

As a police officer arrived at the scene of 998 Dorchester Avenue, Wahlberg and two other youths who were with him fled up Dorchester Avenue toward Pearl Street.

Shortly after 9:00 p.m. on April 8, 1988, Hoa Trinh, an adult Vietnamese male who resides in Dorchester, was standing several blocks away from 998 Dorchester Avenue, near the corner of Dorchester Avenue and Pearl Street. Hoa Trinh was not aware of the altercation outside of 998 Dorchester Avenue.

Wahlberg ran up to Hoa Trinh, put his arm around Hoa Trinh's shoulder, and said: "Police coming, police coming, let me hide." After a police cruiser passed, Wahlberg punched Trinh in the eye, causing him to fall to the ground.

Police arrived and Hoa Trinh identified Wahlberg as the person who punched him. Wahlberg was placed under arrest and read his rights. Thereafter he made numerous unsolicited racial statements about "gooks" and "slant-eyed gooks." After being returned to 998 Dorchester Avenue, Wahlberg identified Thanh Lam as the person he hit over the head with a stick.

http://www.modelminority.com/joomla...lbergs-turning-point-&catid=39:hate&Itemid=56
 
If anything, his long-time personal trainer and friend here in SoCal's South Bay/Torrance/Redondo Beach is Vietnamese.

Hmm... I came thisclose to building the place that he's leasing. We lost the bid at the last second. But I built the developer's house and built out the inside of his new headquarters. (His old one got demolished and replaced with the place that trainer is at.)
 
Why would you want a pardon though?

Is it for job application purposes and travelling where UK/Australia don't let you in if you have a criminal record?

Getting a pardon erases that from any police database and you can say it never happened?
 
Successful music artist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eSN8Cwit_s

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Mark Wahlberg is absolutely the same racist, homophobic piece of garbage he always has been, but he knows he can't express his true bigotry or else he would kiss his career goodbye.

Please note guys that Mark has on MULTIPLE occasions beaten up Asians. He didn't just permanently blind one Vietnamese man, but on another occasion, he smashed another Vietnamese man's head in, leaving him bleeding and unconscious on the street.

Nobody runs around bashing MULTIPLE Vietnamese people (whilst shouting racist slurs) or thrown rocks at black people calling them the N word, and just suddenly switches off those thoughts.

What's truly scary is i'm sure there are plenty more attacks that he got away with and aren't reported.

Furthermore, what I can't stand about Mark Wahlberg is that he is super religious (he chose not to do Brokeback Mountain because of religious issues - so clearly he thinks there is something wrong with being gay), yet for some reason he never had a problem banging a whole bunch of women outside marriage (not to mention having kids born out of wedlock...a MAJOR no no in Catholicism, well, except for hypocrite super Catholic Marky Mark I guess).

He's just an all round sick fuck. Cannot stand him!

Here's a little bit of reading material on this degenerate. Note he bashed two Vietnamese men in two completely separate attacks in just one night. Must of been a busy night of Asian bashing for Marky Mark.....

Oh, and Mark didn't just scream out "Vietnamese fucking shits" but also "SLANT EYED GOOKS"...




http://www.modelminority.com/joomla...lbergs-turning-point-&catid=39:hate&Itemid=56


Starts to read.

Reads "1988"

Looks at watch

It has been 26 years my friend. People can change. If Mark is a racist piece of shit to you then Eddie Murphy is a racist and homophobic piece of shit for making fun of white people and gay men in his stand up Delirious in the 80's. It was a whole other world then and times, and the people, have changed since then.



Also really people, I must ask. What would apologizing for something he did over 20 years ago do for the man who he BLINDED? Seriously think about it. Sure Mark can apologize, but assuming this guy has been alive for the last 20+ years, what will apologizing to him now do for him? He is already blind from this, can an apology all of a sudden give him his sight back? Will it complete reverse everything that that man had to go through for over 20 years because he is blind?

No, it would not. So why should Mark apologize to him now? 26 years ago, yes, but now? Why bother? So you people can get your "people's justice'?

Get over it. He fucked up. He got lucky and didn't go to prison. He turned his life around and has helped so many people because of what he did as a youth. What would an apology even matter at this point?


Why don't all of you go find someone you treated like shit, stole something from, broke their window, bullied, or talked down to or anything of that nature from 10 or more years ago, if you are older make it 20, and go apologize to them. And then come back and tell me what difference it made.

I bet most of you, including myself, cannot even remember anything you did 10 or 20 years ago that would make you a fucking asshole in the eyes of those who were the victim and yet Mark has. He never forgot and he made every effort to change himself as a person and help other people which is more than a lot of us can say to begin with, but because he hasn't tracked down a homeless man and said "Hey man, sorry I was a cunt and blinded you that one time over 20 years ago" he is this huge asshole.


And knowing how you people and this society as a whole is in this day and age, assuming he did somehow find this man and apologized to him, publicly, ON CAMERA. It would not be enough. Say this man is still homeless, then you people would demand Mark get him a job or give him money or take him to the hospital and pay his bills or feed him etc. etc. etc. It would never be enough because then say he did ALL of that at the demand of everyone, he would be accused of only doing it to save face or his career. And then say his career tanked after this, everyone would point blame to something he did almost 30 fucking years ago as the cause.


Be realistic.
 
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