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[Frozenprince]

Surely this is a joke. Are they gonna make Tony a massive asshole again?

Everybody was a massive A-hole in CW, Tony wasn't even king of the assholes which is weird because that's his standing title. That was Steve and his utter inability to even, you know, try and talk to Tony about it rather than "BLOW UP EVERYTHING".

 

[Mudcrab]

Oh, how I wish Secret Wars was still ending this month.

We'll be lucky if it ends this year.

 

[Frozenprince]

We'll be lucky if it ends this year.

I hate events. I liked them when they happened once every five years, not twice a year. They've killed comics for me really.

 

[Hagi]

He always been an asshole.

He wasn't that big of an asshole during Fractions run. He went out of his way to try and repair the character assassination by deleting his whole memory of the events lol

That whole things was a farce just like Avengers VS X-men

 

[BKatastrophe]

Logan stopped being interesting when they stopped trying to let him move forward. He and Scott are just stuck being the same exact characters doing the same exact thing forever which sucks.

Wish they'd just let Scott have his time and be the leader and not fuck with him.

Logan's rise to the "Xavier" position that was opposing Scott's "Magneto" never made sense. It should have been Storm vs. Scott. Instead Storm is regulated to second-fiddle next to Logan. Third-fiddle if you count Kitty Pryde, but then she bailed to take care of the X-babies, and then bailed again to go space-boning with Starlord.

It didn't help that Scott has been played up has the bad guy for the past however many years.

Yeah he been kind of spinning his wheels lately. Know who else should have taken it up? Adam X

You aren't wrong

Surely this is a joke. Are they gonna make Tony a massive asshole again?

He never stopped

 

[zeemumu]

Team Captain Falcon

 

[Frozenprince]

Logan's rise to the "Xavier" position that was opposing Scott's "Magneto" never made sense. It should have been Storm vs. Scott. Instead Storm is regulated to second-fiddle next to Logan. Third-fiddle if you count Kitty Pryde, but then she bailed to take care of the X-babies, and then bailed again to go space-boning with Starlord.

It went against the core beliefs of BOTH their characters for stupid soap opera levels of melodrama. It was dumb, there's no way they'd have ever let it get that far if the writing and plot direction weren't pants on head retarded. Also that's right that was the "we have to sell Kitty Pryde" phase they like to go through every few years.

 

[Mudcrab]

I hate events. I liked them when they happened once every five years, not twice a year. They've killed comics for me really.

See but the thing is, this event is awesome from the main book to the tie-ins. Some duds of course, but there's a lot of quality here.

 

[Slayven]

He wasn't that big of an asshole during Fractions run. He went out of his way to try and repair the character assassination by deleting his whole memory of the events lol

That whole things was a farce just like Avengers VS X-men

But he didn't delete the past 40 years

 

[Blues1990]

Call me weird, but what is wrong with superheroes doing what they do best?

 

[jph139]

I'll wait to hear the creative team before passing judgement... but "lazy" is the world that jumps to mind.

Glad to see Sam-Cap sticking around for another ~6 months, at least.

 

[duckroll]

I hate events. I liked them when they happened once every five years, not twice a year. They've killed comics for me really.

Marvel events have been duds for years. The trick is to follow good writer runs instead. Secret Wars might turn out okay though. Better than Infinity anyway.

I'll wait to hear the creative team before passing judgement... but "lazy" is the world that jumps to mind.

Glad to see Sam-Cap sticking around for another ~6 months, at least.

Bet it'll be Bendis. Lol.

 

[Frozenprince]

But he didn't delete the past 40 years

LIS the faulting in Marvel 616 for "shit what goes wrong on earth" is about 60% Tony, 35% Reed Richards, 2-3% Hank Pym and the last couple points are a mixture of rando space shit and Steve being wrong, maybe some X-men stuff thrown in there.

 

[Schweinehund]

Bring it on

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Marvel events have been duds for years. The trick is to follow good writer runs instead. Secret Wars might turn out okay though. Better than Infinity anyway.

Eh Infinity was fine as an extension of Hickman's normal books. Definitely would rather see more of that than stuff like Axis that just gets in the fucking way of good stories.

 

[Frozenprince]

Marvel events have been duds for years. The trick is to follow good writer runs instead. Secret Wars might turn out okay though. Better than Infinity anyway.

I do still do that to get my fix. I read Hawkeye, Waid's DD, I try and get into Snyder's Batman on occasion but I just can't do it.

I'll read an individual run if it's good, but I never read events, I just hate them.

 

[Mudcrab]

Bring it on

52 was rad tho.

 

[Sinatar]

wait, really? most of the other tie ins are 4 or 5 issues.

Sorry for some reason I thought you were talking about Secret Wars proper, not SW Civil War.

Yea it's 5 issues.

 

[Bronx-Man]

Not buying unless it ends with Kamala Khan slapping the taste outta everyone's mouths.

 

[duckroll]

Eh Infinity was fine as an extension of Hickman's normal books. Definitely would rather see more of that than stuff like Axis that just gets in the fucking way of good stories.

Sure, it was pretty organic in terms of tying into his Avengers stuff, but I still didn't like it much! I think the problem with events is that they really try too hard to shout about how EPIC and IMPORTANT they are in terms of heroics and impending doom. Doesn't do much for me, even with Hickman's meticulous plotting.

 

[Palette Swap]

Captain America fighting Iron Man? Must be Wednesday.

 

[Schweinehund]

52 was rad tho.

I was half joking but I'd love another weekly with those four writers. They need another great non Batman weekly, didn't care for Future's End.

 

[Hagi]

But he didn't delete the past 40 years

Well if we're going that route everyone is an asshole

 

[SixMachine]

The last Civil War lead to Peter unmasking which then lead to Aunt May getting shot which in turn lead to One More Day where Peter makes a deal with the devil to erase his marriage to save Aunt May.

...I am not sure if I can handle another helping of Marvel shitting on Spider-Man, especially now that they are pairing Mary-Jane with urgh Tony Stark.

Tony Stark and MJ get a shotgun wedding. Jarvis gets shot at the reception and Mephisto being the super evil devil he is, asks them them to annul their 5 minute marriage, since it's not like he can do anything evil with the soul of a man with a hand in the largest corporation and a marriage is so much more devastating. Tony goes back to status quo of banging everyone.

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

to promote Civil War movie of course

 

[Parallax]

Well Cap was a whuss from the start and then later he did what he hated about Stark during Civil War.. he wanted control and hunted other heroes who just wanted to save the world.

Steve Rogers is an idiot. Even during original Civil War, eventhough Stark's methods(especially his later methods) Stark was on the right side.. on the realistic side.

Tony stark was wrong about civil war from jump. His whole method was forcing heroes into this game of im right, and in more ways than one did it end up costing him. Creating an android clone of thor so that they could persuade heroes into thinking he was on their side, sending shield agents at heroes at the crack of registration, putting people that he once considered friends into the negative zone with no chance of retiring, and sending villains to hunt the remaining? Stark turn a registration into a witch hunt.

 

[Father_Brain]

Pretty much has to be better than the original, at least. All it would take would be the writers spending five minutes thinking through the implications of the premise.

 

[Regulus Tera]

so what major super hero icon will bite the bullet this time around?

also meh

 

[BKatastrophe]

It went against the core beliefs of BOTH their characters for stupid soap opera levels of melodrama. It was dumb, there's no way they'd have ever let it get that far if the writing and plot direction weren't pants on head retarded. Also that's right that was the "we have to sell Kitty Pryde" phase they like to go through every few years.

Honestly where they took Scott made sense to me. After everything that's happened to the poor boy, it makes sense that he would eventually become more revolutionary than anything. The problem is they made him seem more as a bad guy rather than the more radical soldier of fortune he had become.

I blame AvX for completely and utterly destroying his credibility as a character.

 

[Slayven]

Well if we're going that route everyone is an asshole

Steve, Peter, nor Bruce never ripped the heart out of a teenage boy just to appease their egos.

 

[Frozenprince]

Honestly where they took Scott made sense to me. After everything that's happened to the poor boy, it makes sense that he would eventually become more revolutionary than anything. The problem is they made him seem more as a bad guy rather than the more radical soldier of fortune he had become.

I blame AvX for completely and utterly destroying his credibility as a character.

Of course they had to make him the bad guy, he wanted to *GASP* change the status quo.

Can't be having that.

 

[Hagi]

Pretty much has to be better than the original, at least. All it would take would be the writers spending five minutes thinking through the implications of the premise.

Out of the 15 events since Civil War (Secret Wars not included) I count 4 that are actually worth reading and aren't a huge mess so chances are high it'll be good!

 

[Empyrean Heaven]

#TeamDeadpool

 

[BKatastrophe]

Of course they had to make him the bad guy, he wanted to *GASP* change the status quo.

Can't be having that.

It's like they decided to appease to all the people who only knew Cyke from the 90's cartoon instead of how he actually is in the comics, which is a goddamned superhero.

 

[Hagi]

Steve, Peter, nor Bruce never ripped the heart out of a teenage boy just to appease their egos.

you can't drop bombs like that slay and not give a man some context

 

[DonasaurusRex]

If it's not on MAX then I don't have high hopes for it.

Rucka's run and the recent Punisher run were very good.

 

[Frozenprince]

It's like they decided to appease to all the people who only knew Cyke from the 90's cartoon instead of how he actually is in the comics, which is a goddamned superhero.

I do love how utterly fucking pointless it all was too.

All that "she's the most important Mutant to ever live" shit and she's done fuck all nothing and been involved in basically nothing since then.

 

[Neoxon]

Not surprising considering that the movie is coming out next year.

 

[BKatastrophe]

I do love how utterly fucking pointless it all was too.

All that "she's the most important Mutant to ever live" shit and she's done fuck all nothing and been involved in basically nothing since then.

Assuming you're talking about Hope, she was

Spoiler

a badass in Spurrier's X-Force run, which ended with

Spoiler

her taking over the team and booting her dad's ass outta there for being a scummy bastard.

 

[Slayven]

you can't drop bombs like that slay and not give a man some context

Folks not knowing their history. THe Crossing, Tony tried to kill his youngerself

 

[Neoxon]

Which should be way more interesting that tired ol' regular Logan.

I'm actually not joking.

You aren't wrong, especially with the writers that they got for both X-23 & Old Man Logan.

 

[TwEE-N-Toast]

Man I'm starting to hate Marvels company wide cross overs. Give us a few seconds to breath Marvel.

 

[Neoxon]

Sam Wilson is the new Captain America?!

What happened to Bucky?

Bucky was Cap, Steve came back to life & took back the shield. Then recently, Steve lost the Super Soldier Serum & gave the shied to Falcon.

 

[Number_6]

Great, another event I can skip while lamenting the inevitable interruption of books I actually like.

That is, if I'm still reading Marvel when this hits.

Secret Wars is great though, first event I've read since the last Civil War.

 

[TheKaeptain]

The House of Rehashed Ideas.

 

[Frozenprince]

Bucky was Cap, Steve came back to life & took back the shield. Then recently, Steve lost the Super Soldier Serum & gave the shied to Falcon.

It's called being "Dicked".

Heh.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

What if it's not Civil War II, but instead Civil War II...

 

[DeathyBoy]

Not sure why anyone would get worked up.

Time Runs Out already did a reworking of Civil War, but did it much better because Hickman can actually write.

 

[my name is ed]

Idk. They sent that postcard to a retailer called comics conspiracy. Could be marvel fucking with us

 

[Mudcrab]

What if it's not Civil War II, but instead Civil War II...

That happened in Secret Wars: Civil War already.

Idk. They sent that postcard to a retailer called comics conspiracy. Could be marvel fucking with us

Probably. Marvel marketing knew exactly what the reaction would be and now they have everyone's attention. Like I said in the OT, people are reacting exactly the same way as when the Secret Wars: Civil War tie-in was announced with just this image: