The Silver
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so, that shouldn't stop his crazy ass, would've been a good chance to bring up his rep and show why he's so feared by even villains with powers.
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Marvel vs DC: Who has the better villains?
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so, that shouldn't stop his crazy ass, would've been a good chance to bring up his rep and show why he's so feared by even villains with powers.
Checkmate, DC.
Come on that entire story was clearly written just for the pun in the second panel
But he is not feared by villains with powers.
Plus back then punisher wasn't really that popular
Wiktor
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That's only in toys though, right? I think everywhere else Batman wins.
Batman and Flash are champions easily. Superman has the GOAT sexy Lexy as well.
Marvel's still got plenty of good ones though. Spidey's rogues, Doom, Kang, Marvel Knights' villains. X-Men have heaps of antagonistic characters that can often be defined as villains like Mags. Doesn't help perception that Fox has access to a lot of the good ones (and doesn't do them justice sans for Magneto) so Marvel Studios is often left using B-tier villains. That and they just suck at writing villains for movies.
Marvel's still got plenty of good ones though. Spidey's rogues, Doom, Kang, Marvel Knights' villains. X-Men have heaps of antagonistic characters that can often be defined as villains like Mags. Doesn't help perception that Fox has access to a lot of the good ones (and doesn't do them justice sans for Magneto) so Marvel Studios is often left using B-tier villains. That and they just suck at writing villains for movies.
Nope, comics too
The Silver
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Hey man I read that Superior Foes and these villains are scared shitless of ol Frank.
Colonel Nasty
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Batman has the only DC villains I like. I love the flash show but all his villains are awful in my opinion. Lex is cool.
Spiderman has a great set of villains, Doom is great, and I enjoy a majority of the Xmen baddies. I'd give it to Marvel slightly.
Spiderman has a great set of villains, Doom is great, and I enjoy a majority of the Xmen baddies. I'd give it to Marvel slightly.
Wiktor
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Batman most of the times beats Amazing Spiderman in monthly sales.
They also couldn't pulls of a crime to save their lives. Frank even think of pointing a gun at Beetle and Tombstone would eat his face
Sir_Crocodile
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DC since they have Darkseid.
Forever best villain, thank you timm and ironside for portraying him perfectly on tv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw68uJ8DREg
DC also has the batman/flash rogues gallery, which are impressive just on their own before you go further afield.
Forever best villain, thank you timm and ironside for portraying him perfectly on tv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw68uJ8DREg
DC also has the batman/flash rogues gallery, which are impressive just on their own before you go further afield.
Spiderman usually has that month and last month's issues in the top ten. So cumulatively he is out selling batman
The Silver
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of course, the point is the E list villains with powers(and GOAT Shocker) are scared of him
Maybe they will use him in the 3rd coming of Scourge
TheSecondSpitter
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I like how DC villains subscribe to the Unbreakable arch-nemesis principle: for every hero, there's an exact opposite
Superman/Lex Luthor
Batman/Joker
Green Lantern/Sinestro
The Flash/Zoom
Aquaman/Black Mantra
Wonder Woman/Cheetah
Shazam/Black Adam
Superman/Lex Luthor
Batman/Joker
Green Lantern/Sinestro
The Flash/Zoom
Aquaman/Black Mantra
Wonder Woman/Cheetah
Shazam/Black Adam
Flash's truest arch nemesis is Captain Cold. Look into your heart, you know it to be true.
Evidently he slows things down so he's pretty much an opposite too.
TheSecondSpitter
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who is the martian manhunter's arch nemesis? Zippo the lighter?
Sir_Crocodile
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He does actually have an enemy called the Human Flame
But mostly it's evil/insane green martians or white martians
No sure you are serious.
thetrin
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Yeah, but Darkseid has one of the greatest comic book panels ever drawn and written
Hell fucking yes. Final Crisis was the bomb.
Sir_Crocodile
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Um, have you ever read any extended runs of non-xmen stuff?
For example you can't move for spidey villain characterisation sometimes
Admittedly my knowledge is pretty superficial, this is how it appears to me.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
I think that the basic comic book hero villain design is flawed. The hero sees a problem and dons the suit to combat it. Then the threat to the suit rises. The Joker is the best example of this. He's just a force of nature. The problem is how you make this interesting.
In the recent Marvel movies they basically just selected a bad guy and built him exaclty as powerful as he needs to be in order to make a two hour movie. The Dark Knight is the only movie where the villain made sense. None of the Marvel villains so far have been interesting or relatable. They're invented to create an artificial conflict.
In the recent Marvel movies they basically just selected a bad guy and built him exaclty as powerful as he needs to be in order to make a two hour movie. The Dark Knight is the only movie where the villain made sense. None of the Marvel villains so far have been interesting or relatable. They're invented to create an artificial conflict.
Marvel have done entire series where villains were the focus
Books of Doom
Thunderbolts
Superior Foes of Spiderman
Modok's 11
Just off the top of my head
Hell Dark Reign
Dunedain_Ranger
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Can we add the walking dead so I can say negan and the governor ??
Finaika
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Wait for Thanos.
8BitsAtATime
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Really. Marvel has Doom. DC has a Clown...
Forever Evil!
That Clown is one of the greatest villains of all-time
"Wait 18 movies until a good villain arrives" is pretty weak. And it's not like Marvel hasn't used interesting villains in the past, they just don't seem all that interested in developing them.
Uh.
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I'm still having a hard time accepting the fact that MODOK'S 11 actually existed.
Fisk
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I'm still having a hard time accepting the fact that MODOK'S 11 actually existed.
8BitsAtATime
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Except for that one time he sacrificed the love of his life to gain more power.
PayOffWizard
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TheKaeptain
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Yeah but I don't think everything Spider sells like everything Batman. It's ridiculous how crazy people are about the family.
True Savior
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A DC property adaptation created this
Which is the most fun villain ever created since Raoh or something. It nullifies everyone else.
In terms of comics , Dr Doom might actually be the best , but DC has Batman which makes the scales a little unbalanced.
Which is the most fun villain ever created since Raoh or something. It nullifies everyone else.
In terms of comics , Dr Doom might actually be the best , but DC has Batman which makes the scales a little unbalanced.
Red Arremer
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Most of DC's well-known rogues gallery comes from Batman. The only non-Batman villains that people might know are Lex Luthor, Bizarro and due to the more recent films maybe Sinestro and Zod.
Nobody who isn't invested in the comics (or maybe the shows) will be able to tell you a villain from the Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, etc.
Meanwhile, Marvel's best known villains are spread out across various places. You got Magneto and the Brotherhood on the X-Men front, you got Doom and Galactus from the Fantastic Four, you got a variety of Spider-man villains that people know (especially the "Big 3" - Green Goblin, Doc Ock and Venom), and due to the Marvel films people also know Loki and Thanos.
I think DC has some fantastic villains, but since their focus is very much on Batman, he gets most of them, while the other characters stay behind with dudes nobody really knows.
Marvel has fantastic villains too, but they're making it a point to spread them out across their properties and have them cross over into other ones as well. You will rarely see anybody else but Batman fight the Penguin or Poison Ivy or Two-Face (Joker really is the only one who tends to transcend from Batman's guys), but you will see a lot of Marvel villains that are either generally shared between characters (e.g. the Kingpin belongs to both Spidey and Daredevil), and you will have stuff like Doom or Magneto fighting the Avengers, or the Fantastic Four battling Kang, or Spider-Man fighting the Juggernaut or what have you.
And I think that's what makes Marvel's villains stand out more for me. There's a wide variety of villains and they're not only bound to one hero. Heck NYC is so big that several heroes share their super villains without any problems.
This just proves my point. Sauron is usually a villain for the X-Men and Ka-Zar of the Savage Land.
Nobody who isn't invested in the comics (or maybe the shows) will be able to tell you a villain from the Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, etc.
Meanwhile, Marvel's best known villains are spread out across various places. You got Magneto and the Brotherhood on the X-Men front, you got Doom and Galactus from the Fantastic Four, you got a variety of Spider-man villains that people know (especially the "Big 3" - Green Goblin, Doc Ock and Venom), and due to the Marvel films people also know Loki and Thanos.
I think DC has some fantastic villains, but since their focus is very much on Batman, he gets most of them, while the other characters stay behind with dudes nobody really knows.
Marvel has fantastic villains too, but they're making it a point to spread them out across their properties and have them cross over into other ones as well. You will rarely see anybody else but Batman fight the Penguin or Poison Ivy or Two-Face (Joker really is the only one who tends to transcend from Batman's guys), but you will see a lot of Marvel villains that are either generally shared between characters (e.g. the Kingpin belongs to both Spidey and Daredevil), and you will have stuff like Doom or Magneto fighting the Avengers, or the Fantastic Four battling Kang, or Spider-Man fighting the Juggernaut or what have you.
And I think that's what makes Marvel's villains stand out more for me. There's a wide variety of villains and they're not only bound to one hero. Heck NYC is so big that several heroes share their super villains without any problems.
This just proves my point. Sauron is usually a villain for the X-Men and Ka-Zar of the Savage Land.
Shuggananas
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DC mainly for batman villains
Lex luthor is a fucking joke though, the worst
Lex luthor is a fucking joke though, the worst
Rastafarian42
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I prefer Marvel's villains but they're about even when you break things down both sides have iconic villains that stand on there own. Marvel edges it for me because Spider-man has my favorite rogues due to their uniqueness.
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