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[enzo_gt]

It's supposedly

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Cap and Tony talking about what the Avengers do now. Most of the team has left, but Cap says something along the lines of, "we rebuild" and see a pan up shot of Cap, Falcon, War Machine, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Vision, and Captain Marvel (who they're apparently going to do additional filming for to throw whoever they cast as her in). Cap then yells "AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!", cut to black

Of course, there's no reason for you to believe this as I am just a guy on the internet.

What is the source of this though?

Sounds way too convenient TBH, especially considering I don't expect the cast to split that way.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

What is the source of this though?

Sounds way too convenient TBH, especially considering I don't expect the cast to split that way.

I think it was a Devin Faraci rumour? Not 100% sure, but I remember reading it too.

 

[Pachimari]

These are still up for grabs:

 

[richiek]

What is the source of this though?

Sounds way too convenient TBH, especially considering I don't expect the cast to split that way.

From Kevin Feige himself:

http://screenrant.com/avengers-2-3-team-roster-character

“The Avengers films, ideally, in the grand plan are always big, giant linchpins… It’s like as it was in publishing, when each of the characters would go on their own adventures and then occasionally team up for a big, 12-issue mega-event. Then they would go back into their own comics, and be changed from whatever that event was. I envision the same thing occurring after this movie, because

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the [Avengers] roster is altered

by the finale of this film.”

 

[E the Shaggy]

What is the source of this though?

Sounds way too convenient TBH, especially considering I don't expect the cast to split that way.

Top...men.

Also, heavy Avengers 2 spoilers:

Spoiler

Hawkeye has a wife and kids.

 

[DeathoftheEndless]

Somehow I doubt we'll see Thanos in this one. Just seems like there isn't time for him, especially considering what the post credit scene is supposed to be.

Well, I guess we did just see him in the last Marvel movie, so you're probably right.

 

[enzo_gt]

From Kevin Feige himself:

http://screenrant.com/avengers-2-3-team-roster-character

Oh I'm aware of this, I just meant that scene specifically + I have a hard time imagining Tony and Steve being on good terms by the end of this film, and expect the split to be drawn somewhere between Tony and Cap.

Top...men.

Also, heavy Avengers 2 spoilers:

Spoiler

Hawkeye has a wife and kids.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

It's supposedly

Spoiler

Cap and Tony talking about what the Avengers do now. Most of the team has left, but Cap says something along the lines of, "we rebuild" and see a pan up shot of Cap, Falcon, War Machine, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Vision, and Captain Marvel (who they're apparently going to do additional filming for to throw whoever they cast as her in). Cap then yells "AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!", cut to black

Of course, there's no reason for you to believe this as I am just a guy on the internet.

I dunno, I think the rumour that

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the Avengers split into two teams led by Tony and Steve

sounds more plausible. It builds up Civil War better.

 

[Dai101]

I dunno, I think the rumour that

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the Avengers split into two teams led by Tony and Steve

sounds more plausible. It builds up Civil War better.

But, who will go which way? I can see everyone teaming with Steve. There's not enough assholes in this to join Tony like Mr. Douchetastic for example.

 

[enzo_gt]

But, who will go which way? I can see everyone teaming with Steve. There's not enough assholes in this to join Tony like Mr. Douchetastic for example.

Well, if Civil War hinges on whether superheroes should take responsibility and be accountable for their actions (which is the vibe I get from Feige's comments), I can see pretty much everyone but Thor being able to side with Tony.

- BW, despite wikileaking all of SHIELD's files, is still a covert ops kind of agent and probably can sympathize with doing what has to be done and not being restrained by bureaucracy
- Hawkeye for similar reasons, though I'd put him closer to Steve on the spectrum
- Banner is probably most acutely aware of how threatening another control structure is, and values his agency a bit

QS and Scarlet Witch are in the air because we don't really know them, but I'd put them on Steve's side.

 

[The Lamonster]

Can someone explain to me why the Avengers are fighting each other again in this movie? I thought we were past that by the end of Avengers 1.

It was a major plot point that they could conquer all when they finally worked together. Is this like a "Pam <3 Jim" situation where it stops being fun when they finally start dating?

 

[Live Free or Die]

So civil war is the avengers infighting with each other? man i dont want that to happen.

 

[Blader]

What is the source of this though?

Sounds way too convenient TBH, especially considering I don't expect the cast to split that way.

I think he's conflating the

Spoiler

team splits up, Cap forms new team

rumor that Devin posted last year with a lot of completely made-up dialogue.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Can someone explain to me why the Avengers are fighting each other again in this movie? I thought we were past that by the end of Avengers 1.

It was a major plot point that they could conquer all when they finally worked together. Is this like a "Pam <3 Jim" situation where it stops being fun when they finally start dating?

From what we've seen it's mostly Tony and Hulk fighting, and Hulk is likely being mind-controlled or hypnotized by The Scarlet Witch.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

- BW, despite wikileaking all of SHIELD's files, is still a covert ops kind of agent and probably can sympathize with doing what has to be done and not being restrained by bureaucracy
- Hawkeye for similar reasons, though I'd put him closer to Steve on the spectrum
- Banner is probably most acutely aware of how threatening another control structure is, and values his agency a bit

I bet "Science Bros" breaking up is too good a bit for Marvel to pass up. The pathos there is too easy to mine.

Plus then each side gets a supergenius scientist.

Tony Side:
Hawkeye
Black Widow
Nick Fury
Maria Hill
War Machine

Steve Side:
Hulk
Thor
The Twins
Vision
Falcon

 

[Sinatar]

Can someone explain to me why the Avengers are fighting each other again in this movie? I thought we were past that by the end of Avengers 1.

It was a major plot point that they could conquer all when they finally worked together. Is this like a "Pam <3 Jim" situation where it stops being fun when they finally start dating?

Avengers movies are like big crossover comic events, which are always just thinly veiled excuses for heroes to fight each other.

 

[The Lamonster]

From what we've seen it's mostly Tony and Hulk fighting, and Hulk is likely being mind-controlled or hypnotized by The Scarlet Witch.

oh okay I guess that explains Hulk's different eye color.


but doesn't Thor grab Tony by the throat at one point?

 

[flkraven]

I bet "Science Bros" breaking up is too good a bit for Marvel to pass up. The pathos there is too easy to mine.

Plus then each side gets a supergenius scientist.

Tony Side:
Hawkeye
Black Widow
Nick Fury
Maria Hill
War Machine

Steve Side:
Hulk
Thor
The Twins
Vision
Falcon

So Steve gets the god, the monster, and people with super powers + falcon, while Tony has nothing but regular humans, 2 of which wear armor. 1 sided much?

 

[Pai Pai Master]

oh okay I guess that explains Hulk's different eye color.

but doesn't Thor grab Tony by the throat at one point?

Yeah, we'll have to see. Looks like Thor is going through some pretty heavy shit in this movie so he could just be really on edge.

 

[Neoxon]

I bet "Science Bros" breaking up is too good a bit for Marvel to pass up. The pathos there is too easy to mine.

Plus then each side gets a supergenius scientist.

Tony Side:
Hawkeye
Black Widow
Nick Fury
Maria Hill
War Machine

Steve Side:
Hulk
Thor
The Twins
Vision
Falcon

I honestly think Hawkeye will side with Cap.

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Gotta assemble the Cooky Quartet.

 

[a secret-boss]

I see vision more with Tony's team

 

[enzo_gt]

I bet "Science Bros" breaking up is too good a bit for Marvel to pass up. The pathos there is too easy to mine.

Plus then each side gets a supergenius scientist.

Tony Side:
Hawkeye
Black Widow
Nick Fury
Maria Hill
War Machine

Steve Side:
Hulk
Thor
The Twins
Vision
Falcon

I think Vision is pretty much a shoe-in for Tony's side. He's maintained by Tony, as well. I'd imagine you could swap him for anyone on Tony's side.

The hardest part for me is both Thor and Hulk being on the same side, but I don't think it's as cut and dry as comics Civil War. Tony also hasn't really had an ego for a movie and a half now.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I think Vision is pretty much a shoe-in for Tony's side. He's maintained by Tony, as well. I'd imagine you could swap him for anyone on Tony's side.

Yeah, but if Banner is the dagger to Tony's heart (Science Bros, no!) then Vision is the twist. At least that was my thinking there. But I agree it's more likely Vision stays on Tony's side.

It's also possible Banner/Hulk isn't even involved. Dude was pretty good at hiding before.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

I think it's too early to try and draw parallels between the movie and comics versions of Civil War. My hope is that it's a lot less antagonistic, and more of an ideological battle with two separate teams handling threats in their own unique way. In that sense, I can see Tony's side being more like the "tech Avengers" and Cap's team being the high powered force it could be.

I simply don't think they're ever going to make any of the main Avengers team that unlikeable to where we'd really want to root for Steve to beat Tony to a bloody pulp or vice versa.

I would like one nice big fight between the two sides but I would prefer for most of Phase 3 to be like the two teams basically aren't on speaking terms, kinda like how The New Avengers and The Mighty Avengers were around the time of Secret Invasion/Dark Reign. At the same time I also doubt we're going to get most of those characters in that list together on the big screen outside of Age of Ultron and Infinity War Part One.

 

[Blader]

I don't really see a Cap's Avengers vs. Stark's Avengers scenario happening. For one thing, most of those actors won't even be in Civil War at all. There's also too much Winter Soldier/HYDRA fallout to resolve from Cap 2 to spend a ton of time on Avengers in-fighting.

 

[BLACKLAC]

but doesn't Thor grab Tony by the throat at one point?

Payback for talking shit in the woods.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I think it's too early to try and draw parallels between the movie and comics versions of Civil War. My hope is that it's a lot less antagonistic, and more of an ideological battle with two separate teams handling threats in their own unique way.

I don't really see a Cap's Avengers vs. Stark's Avengers scenario happening.

I agree - I don't think there's gonna be like, a big versus-styled fight (although for the love of Christ the idea of Tony calling for an assist like a live-action game of MvC would be glorious) I'm just trying to predict (out of thin air) where allegiances might lie at the end of this film if/when the Avengers split up for whatever it is Civil War becomes in its transition to live action.

 

[Dai101]

I think it's too early to try and draw parallels between the movie and comics versions of Civil War. My hope is that it's a lot less antagonistic, and more of an ideological battle with two separate teams handling threats in their own unique way. In that sense, I can see Tony's side being more like the "tech Avengers" and Cap's team being the high powered force it could be.

I simply don't think they're ever going to make any of the main Avengers team that unlikeable to where we'd really want to root for Steve to beat Tony to a bloody pulp or vice versa.

I would like one nice big fight between the two sides but I would prefer for most of Phase 3 to be like the two teams basically aren't on speaking terms, kinda like how The New Avengers and The Mighty Avengers were around the time of Secret Invasion/Dark Reign. At the same time I also doubt we're going to get most of those characters in that list together on the big screen outside of Age of Ultron and Infinity War Part One.

Exactly. I don't see them being team vs team but other forces against them, i.e. government(s) other factions, HYDRA and some of them (ie Tony, Hill and others) working for them or with them as a way to "pay for their sins"

 

[guek]

oh okay I guess that explains Hulk's different eye color.


but doesn't Thor grab Tony by the throat at one point?

They might get rough with each other but it's unlikely there'll be too much actual infighting apart from stopping a mind controlled hulk

 

[enzo_gt]

Yeah, but if Banner is the dagger to Tony's heart (Science Bros, no!) then Vision is the twist. At least that was my thinking there. But I agree it's more likely Vision stays on Tony's side.

It's also possible Banner/Hulk isn't even involved. Dude was pretty good at hiding before.

This is a good point, actually. Some people might just go off the grid period, and I'm not necessarily leaning on that meaning you're shot into space either.

I think it's too early to try and draw parallels between the movie and comics versions of Civil War. My hope is that it's a lot less antagonistic, and more of an ideological battle with two separate teams handling threats in their own unique way. In that sense, I can see Tony's side being more like the "tech Avengers" and Cap's team being the high powered force it could be.

I simply don't think they're ever going to make any of the main Avengers team that unlikeable to where we'd really want to root for Steve to beat Tony to a bloody pulp or vice versa.

I would like one nice big fight between the two sides but I would prefer for most of Phase 3 to be like the two teams basically aren't on speaking terms, kinda like how The New Avengers and The Mighty Avengers were around the time of Secret Invasion/Dark Reign. At the same time I also doubt we're going to get most of those characters in that list together on the big screen outside of Age of Ultron and Infinity War Part One.

I think it will be a bit more ideological for the very fact that they won't demonize one side. I don't think that means we won't see Marvel trying to push people via marketing to take a side and anticipate a physical clash that's more than just the tiffs we've seen thus far, however. Something closer to or beyond the final fight in The Winter Soldier.

I don't really see a Cap's Avengers vs. Stark's Avengers scenario happening. For one thing, most of those actors won't even be in Civil War at all. There's also too much Winter Soldier/HYDRA fallout to resolve from Cap 2 to spend a ton of time on Avengers in-fighting.

Alternatively, they're waiting for AoU to be out and the new Avengers roster to be known (in case some of the relatively smaller characters get killed, etc.) before announcing people in Civil War.

And there's that long ass Winter Soldier contract too that we need to keep in the back of our heads..

 

[djcatskratch]

Someone needs to edit the gif of bloodshot eyes Hulk turning towards the camera onto this gif:

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

I bet "Science Bros" breaking up is too good a bit for Marvel to pass up. The pathos there is too easy to mine.

Plus then each side gets a supergenius scientist.

Tony Side:
Hawkeye
Black Widow
Nick Fury
Maria Hill
War Machine

Steve Side:
Hulk
Thor
The Twins
Vision
Falcon

Wouldn't Black Widow be on Team Cap considering their relationship in CA2:WS?

 

[Pai Pai Master]

I think it will be a bit more ideological for the very fact that they won't demonize one side. I don't think that means we won't see Marvel trying to push people via marketing to take a side and anticipate a physical clash that's more than just the tiffs we've seen thus far, however. Something closer to or beyond the final fight in The Winter Soldier.

Oh for sure, which will definitely be a really fun and popular marketing campaign, a "whose side are you on" kinda thing will be big.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Wouldn't Black Widow be on Team Cap considering their relationship in CA2:WS?

Tony has his smaller-scale betrayal, so does Steve.

 

[Alcoremortis]

Yeah, but if Banner is the dagger to Tony's heart (Science Bros, no!) then Vision is the twist. At least that was my thinking there. But I agree it's more likely Vision stays on Tony's side.

It's also possible Banner/Hulk isn't even involved. Dude was pretty good at hiding before.

Yeah, I think it fits more with his personality to just be all "fuck this shit" and leave. It might not even be because of the infighting. If the Hulk vs Hulkbuster fight is him starting to lose control, he might just decide that he can't be around people anymore and exile himself.

Thor as well, actually. I mean, without Jane or the Avengers to hold him to Earth, Thor has pretty much no reason to hang around and might just go back to Asgard or start paying attention to some of the other nine realms for a bit.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Yeah I'm 99% certain Thor is gonna get his ass to Asgard after whatever happens with him in AoU.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I agree, that's way more likely. Especially since we know there's a whole "Ragnarok" thing going on shortly after this.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Yeah I'm 99% certain Thor is gonna get his ass to Asgard after whatever happens with him in AoU.

Well, Ragnarok takes place immediately after the AoU. Thor ain't got time for petty human squabbling.

 

[guek]

It's also possible Banner/Hulk isn't even involved. Dude was pretty good at hiding before.

To be clear, I don't think planet hulk or anything like it is happening in the forseeable future, but it would be one hell of a cover up and hush job if Banner ends up getting launched into space at the end of AoU and they announce a hulk movie for phase 3.

 

[Neoxon]

Tony has his smaller-scale betrayal, so does Steve.

That still doesn't answer Hawkeye. More so given that they'd pass up the chance to reference the Cooky Quartet. As such, I firmly believe that Hawkeye will be on Team Cap/Anti-Registration.

 

[guek]

I don't care which heroes end up on which side as long as my dreams come true and we get to see everyone fight MODOK in the end

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Civil War doesn't work as a concept with Thor and Hulk in the picture so they will find a way to write him out, space rocket or not.

I don't care which heroes end up on which side as long as my dreams come true and we get to see everyone fight MODOK in the end

They're secretly holding back on this, it's Infinity War Part 3.

 

[Alcoremortis]

To be clear, I don't think planet hulk or anything like it is happening in the forseeable future, but it would be one hell of a cover up and hush job if Banner ends up getting launched into space at the end of AoU and they announce a hulk movie for phase 3.

From what I heard, he's going to make appearances in other movies, kinda like how Black Widow was in Cap 2.

Personally, I think the most likely ones for him to pop up in are Doctor Strange and Inhumans, because he does have some interesting stories with both from the comics that could be built up.

Especially Doctor Strange because he's one of the few superheroes who wouldn't be overshadowed by Hulk. Not in the slightest.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I don't care which heroes end up on which side as long as my dreams come true and we get to see everyone fight MODOK in the end

I thought for sure they'd have dropped a MODOK in Agents of SHIELD by now.

 

[bigmase21]

Made these. Feel free to use:

Got Banner hulking. Thank you!

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

That Ultron laser gif just reminds me of how much i hate Whedon's over-reliance on dutch angles. I hope he shows some restrain this time because last time around i felt like i was watching some cheap ass nonsense at times.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Personally, I think the most likely ones for him to pop up in are Doctor Strange and Inhumans, because he does have some interesting stories with both from the comics that could be built up.

This is what I really want, if we're gonna be stuck with getting Hulk in other people's movies, let's have it be less Avengers heroes movies and add some variety. I would LOVE to see him interact with the Inhumans or Captain Marvel, he'd be great in either just to demonstrate the power of someone like Black Bolt or Carol.

 

[guek]

From what I heard, he's going to make appearances in other movies, kinda like how Black Widow was in Cap 2.

Personally, I think the most likely ones for him to pop up in are Doctor Strange and Inhumans, because he does have some interesting stories with both from the comics that could be built up.

Especially Doctor Strange because he's one of the few superheroes who wouldn't be overshadowed by Hulk. Not in the slightest.

The Dr Strange movie starts with Stephen accidentally hurling Bruce through the crossroad dimensions and throughout the film we get to see select scenes of hulk smashing various interdimensional foes in random weird settings in fights that have nothing to do with the plot. The movie ends with Strange finally figuring out how to bring him back and Bruce just goes "what the hell, man"

 

[Alcoremortis]

This is what I really want, if we're gonna be stuck with getting Hulk in other people's movies, let's have it be less Avengers heroes movies and add some variety. I would LOVE to see him interact with the Inhumans or Captain Marvel, he'd be great in either just to demonstrate the power of someone like Black Bolt or Carol.

I really want him in Doctor Strange mainly because they have this hilarious relationship in the comics. I mean, the first time Banner met Strange, he purposefully would get his name wrong at every opportunity (Doctor Peculiar, Doctor Odd, Doctor Bizarre, Doctor Weird, etc...) and from there sprung a long and beautiful friendship. Granted, that friendship was mainly Hulk and Banner making fun of Strange and Strange trying to get both of them to stop wrecking his house. But still. What I wouldn't pay to see that on screen.

 

[enzo_gt]

I agree, that's way more likely. Especially since we know there's a whole "Ragnarok" thing going on shortly after this.

Welp. Completely forgot that Ragnarok is supposed to shake things up considerably too.