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Mass shooting at mall in Old Bridge, NJ; several dead
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Unspeakable Evil
Member
This shit is terrible 
Machine
Member
Of course not. I just was trying to point out the absurdity of some of the statements being made. Particularly by people that don't read the OP or any of the articles and make comments based on the faulty assumption that this occurred in a busy public mall during shopping hours.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
More like every other day
Zoe
Member
Disgruntled attacks will happen anywhere. They'll just use a different method if a gun isn't available.
theignoramus
Member
Angry Puppy
Member
Unbelievable what is happening to the world
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
If only those killed people had guns to defend themselves
I can just see it now, they all pull out guns when they hear shots fired. Then they see other people with guns and start firing. Everyone is dead, but there was only one "bad" guy.
Zoe
Member
Yes? The only reason they locked the door on him was because he left to get the gun. He could have just as easily attacked them with something inside the store.
Buddha Beam
Banned
This is the sensible solution, if you ask me. I might not go as far as banning hand guns entirely (although I wouldn't object if they were), but either way, a gun should be the hardest damn thing in the world to obtain. Hand guns doubly so. If someone wants a hand gun, let them have a few mandatory sessions with a psychiatrist, first.
Gun are for one thing and one thing only - killing. And if someone wants to even open up the possibility of killing other people, then the least we as a society can do is make damn sure they have all their marbles in place.
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
Holy shit, my in-laws live in Middletown, like five minutes away from there.
Even trained cops shooting a bad guy can accidentaly hit lots of passers by. Imagine if everyone started shooting.
I'd value the right to have slightly lower odds of getting shot by a stranger over the right to walk around in public with a deadly ranged weapon.
Hari Seldon
Member
Lionheart1827
Member
Yup, probably. I wouldn't be surprised if the report of "automatic" pistol was just a standard semi-auto. Big difference.
I think mass shooting refers to any incident in which an individual with a gun opens fire at multiple(many times random) targets in a public setting. Just because more didn't die doesn't mean it's not a mass shooting...
Zoe
Member
When people are saying it's not a mass shooting, they're talking about the motive.
Dark Octave
Banned
Gun laws need to be federalized. Ban them in all states or standardize the law in all. The rationale that you only want to protect yourself in one state but not the other is silly. Similarly, if someone wants to commit these atrocities, they're not going to care about whether or not they cross state lines with a legally purchased gun to do them.
The idea that we segmentize gun laws because we cannot come to a consensus about how we feel about the 2nd amendment is irresponsible and a detriment to how police and emergency response infrastructure/people can deal with the problem they would otherwise be less experienced and less prepared for in a non-federalized system.
The idea that we segmentize gun laws because we cannot come to a consensus about how we feel about the 2nd amendment is irresponsible and a detriment to how police and emergency response infrastructure/people can deal with the problem they would otherwise be less experienced and less prepared for in a non-federalized system.
lunarworks
Member
Even better! If everyone was simply bulletproof, no one would need to carry guns!
Messypandas
Member
Because heftier regulations would stop people selling them to their friends and family who've been rejected. You just need a full stop ban and gun amnesty. Or keep enduring the innocent lives lost
Mercury Fred
Banned
Go go America! BANG BANG BANG!!
Guns <3
Guns <3
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
This wasn't a mass shooting, since he seems to have shot 2 people then himself.
This is just over exposure of shootings since the Colorado Springs shooting.. much like the over exposure after Columbine.
Take the Empire State Building shooting, that was one guy murdering someone and the police shot and hit a bunch of bystanders, not the original shooter.
Just the fact that someone wants to classify this as a mass shooting shows it's just piggy-backing coverage of Colorado Springs and the Sikh Temple.
This is just over exposure of shootings since the Colorado Springs shooting.. much like the over exposure after Columbine.
Take the Empire State Building shooting, that was one guy murdering someone and the police shot and hit a bunch of bystanders, not the original shooter.
Just the fact that someone wants to classify this as a mass shooting shows it's just piggy-backing coverage of Colorado Springs and the Sikh Temple.
Dark Octave
Banned
I imagine this being said with the most horrible Eastern European accent, for some reason.
Nexus Zero
Member
If its not full auto, its legal. I can go down to the local gun store right now and pick a couple up, no questions asked.
Basileus777
Member
Not in New Jersey.
evil solrac v3.0
Member
no need to make ourselves a loophole with hunting, some hobby killing animals....
http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/167996/one-dead--three-injured-in-brooklyn-street-shooting
one killed, three injured in Brooklyn last night. in the street. no motive. can we count this as mass shooting too? the answer is simple, you want less guns, make less guns.
You do realise most hunters make almost full use of what they kill right? It's not like they shoot the animals and just leave them to rot.
Littlegator
Banned
Because the point of the United States Constitution is not to remove freedoms from the people?
I mean it's fairly straightforward. Making guns illegal isn't going to stop psychopaths from killing people.
Machine
Member
Seriously? Do you opposing fishing too? I know a lot of hunters and none of them are trophy/sport hunters, they all eat what they kill and are very concerned with wildlife conservation.
Johnny Cage In The Shower
Member
My cousin lives in Jersey, this is bad stuff!
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Deleted member 20415
Unconfirmed Member
New Jersey is a large state, with very large towns.
Littlegator
Banned
In fact, most animals hunted are raised by private land owners or GF&P for the purpose of being hunted, or for population control. There are also permits and heavily enforced limits. It's not like it's a bunch of people running around shooting animals.
soundscream
Member
Yeah my guess is he got the gun illegally. NJ has extremely tough gun laws. I had to go through a lot to apply for my firearms license and I still have yet to receive it. And even then the restrictions on the types of guns you can buy is very severe compared to most other states.
theignoramus
Member
why do you want and need the freedom to own assault weapons? are you forming a militia? living on the mexican border? why?
This statement doesn't help out "anti-gun GAF".
Johnny Cage In The Shower
Member
Paramus to be specific. Near Paramus Mall
why do the police need assault weapons?
Nowhere near old bridge. Paramus is in NNJ
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Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
People need to start looking at the root of this problem and not the means by which these actions are performed. There is more violence depicted in movies/tv/videogames than ever before, couple that with with other societal factors and are people really shocked that these shootings are becoming a regular occurrence? Our media, entertainment, and environment shape who we become. We've had guns for years, but our surroundings have never been more toxic than they are now.
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