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subversus said:
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Max Payne 3: First Trailer-September 14th [Out Now]
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Oscar-Worthy Script. TM
DarkChild said:
These type of posts are always so cute. Always makes it look like the poster just started playing video games yesterday.
To be perfectly honest, I'm fine with the alcohol and the shaven head. That's just R*'s version of character development. Placing the setting in sunny Sao Paulo and attempting to forcefeed us the same atmosphere and mood that was conveyed in the first two MPs is just so hilariously awful.
Regardless, I'm still looking forward to the game. Just disappointed that it'll probably end up going on my wall as just another generic shooter of the times.
DarkChild said:Rockstar doesn't understand that majority of Max Payne fans(PC) want the SAME game...Just put some nicer graphics, add tessellation and parallax occlusion mapping, some destruction here and there and a coat. Set it in same NY previous games were and rework the levels, is that much to ask?
I honestly think they wore out the storyline with the previous 2; I mean, Max was one emotionally and physically drained dude after those events. Max Payne 3's setting makes sense considering those events.
Angry Fork said:
People love Star Wars. The shit is popular. So let's continue milking this shit by feeding them the most sugarcoated stuff possible - like everybody lives, good guys always win and so on.
just so you understand where I'm coming from - I think that the only decent SW episode is the fifth one. The final episode should have ended by Empire's victory but Lucas decided he needed to sell plushy ewoks and botched everything.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
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Max feels a little of, needs to be more like this.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/153616
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/153616
Angry Fork
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This.SamuraiX- said:
Robot Pants
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Well, certainly doesn't seem like Max Payne, but.....looks like it would be at least fun to play.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Fjordson said:
Which is why the dev and publisher split.
I'd want a Remedy produced MP3 too, but it's not happening. Remedy wanted to move on, which is fine for them. But I want more Max Payne, and I'll take what I can get. The fact that the game looks entertaining, moody, and badass, well, that's all I wanted! I just want a great game with Max Payne. That's what I'm getting.
SneakyStephan
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Artsryle, atmosphere etc are nothing like max payne.
Cutscenes remind me more of gta than max payne.
Buzzcut? check.
Fuck off rockstar you clearly don't get it.
Cutscenes remind me more of gta than max payne.
Buzzcut? check.
Fuck off rockstar you clearly don't get it.
This would be a fine comment if MP3 had already been released and subsequently panned by reviews and core gamers.Angry Fork said:
But this comparison doesn't work because MP3 =/= Episode 1-3 (or the reworked 4-6) -- yet.
None of us have played it. It might be a great game. But you can't pass an informed judgement until you've experienced this game for yourself. Come back to this comparison after a demo or, better still, the full release.
PaleFolklore
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Looks pretty good in my opinion. I was psyched to hear the old music kick in at the beginning. I'm still not day one until I see 20 or so minutes of continuous gameplay though.
dark_inferno
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The truth was a burning green crack through my brain. Bald head, glimpsed out of the corner of my eye, sawing my ugly face in the mirror. Endless repetition of the act of shooting, time slowing down to show off my moves while killing some faceless favela guys. Placed in a setting i was never befor. Lost my sense for methaphors and worst of all the theme of my beloved song is now misplaced in a pile of dirt. The paranoid feel of someone stupid controlling my every step leading me to something i never intended to go and making something unspecial out of me. I was in a R* game. Funny as Hell, it was the most horrible thing I could think of.
keltickennedy
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subversus said:
Come on, don't let George Lucas ruin this thread also. Stay on topic.
AranhaHunter
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Do. Want.
I started playing games 16 years ago, I played both MP, but I always like to see butthurth fans nagging about a game they haven't even seen a gameplay yet. Sure, some people will get bothered with San Paolo, they want more NY, some people will hate bald Max, but when sales and reviews start pouring in R* surely won't be unsatisfied. As much as some people here on GAF(which is "hardcore" gaming forum btw) hate the change of settings, there will be same amount of people who love it. Thats how it is, always was.SamuraiX- said:
Ronan_Berthelot
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Shadow of the BEAST
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Looks MUCH better than previous max payne.
I bought mp 2 for the xbox and man was that game a drag. They could not even get the film noir style interesting.
I bought mp 2 for the xbox and man was that game a drag. They could not even get the film noir style interesting.
angular graphics
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DarkChild said:
Really, whether R* will get satisfied by the sales and reviews is the last thing I can think that I would care for.
petethepanda
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Were it not for the title and that theme playing nobody would ever come close to guessing this is a Max Payne game.
polarizeme
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I'm not really sure where all the complaining is coming from.
If you just want MP1/2, go play them. I'm all for game and character changes, as long as they make sense, and to me the thing that *wouldn't* make sense here is keeping everything exactly the same. I totally agree with the other posters that it would be incredibly dull if it was just the other two games re-hashed. I'd rather they try to make a progression and fail; I find it a better option than re-making the same exact thing just to pander an audience that's mostly terrified of change.
Also, if you want something Max Payne related to moan about... go check out the movie.
*vomit*
This actually isn't intended to be as snarky as it's coming off. I just feel like people need to chill out until they actually PLAY the game. If it sucks, it sucks, and I'll join right in with the bitching... but to bitch about gameplay, atmosphere and feel after 1 short video just seems a bit rushed and uninformed.
The end. =P
If you just want MP1/2, go play them. I'm all for game and character changes, as long as they make sense, and to me the thing that *wouldn't* make sense here is keeping everything exactly the same. I totally agree with the other posters that it would be incredibly dull if it was just the other two games re-hashed. I'd rather they try to make a progression and fail; I find it a better option than re-making the same exact thing just to pander an audience that's mostly terrified of change.
Also, if you want something Max Payne related to moan about... go check out the movie.
*vomit*
This actually isn't intended to be as snarky as it's coming off. I just feel like people need to chill out until they actually PLAY the game. If it sucks, it sucks, and I'll join right in with the bitching... but to bitch about gameplay, atmosphere and feel after 1 short video just seems a bit rushed and uninformed.
The end. =P
NotTheGuyYouKill
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petethepanda said:
I would.
McCaffrey has a very distinctive voice.
Edit:
Someone explain how MP3 would continue on from the ending of MP2 in New York? There isn't a ton of story telling left there after the ending of MP2.
Stabby McSter
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I wouldn't call it GREAT, but yeah. D:subversus said:
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DarkChild said:
Making games, movies, books sure is hard, I don't think anyone claims he PERSONALLY can do better. But judging them for how bad the are, sure is fairly easy. You don't need to be a game developer to see what is bad/uninteresting/bland.
DarkChild said:
Exactly the problem.
petethepanda
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May as well add the voice in with the name and the piece of music. The entire look and feel of 1 and 2 looks to be gone.NotTheGuyYouKill said:
I didn't want a "rehash" or anything, but you can progress a series without pulling a 180.
Angry Fork
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I hear this so much when it comes to 'evolved' and changed franchises this gen. Socom, Splinter Cell, Hitman, Resident Evil etc. Some press release comes out saying shit that worries a bunch of people. Then other people say 'wait until screenshots guys we don't even know what it looks like'.soultron said:
Then the screenshots are released and people get even more worried then you guys change your tune and say 'wait until the trailer come on we haven't even seen direct feed gameplay yet'. Then that comes out and people get annoyed and you say wait until the demo because you have to have it in your hands for some reason in order to see how a game is looking.
It's just silly. Technically you're right people should wait until we get some kind of direct feed gameplay demonstration in order to give a fair judgment, I'd agree with that. There's still time to hear about the flashback sections of the game and so on. But I just simply don't like this setting. Unless the flashbacks take up 75% of the game I don't care.
But I have a feeling they'll be more like 10% and the rest of the game will be Vice City motorcycle jumping building to building with a beautiful sun vista in your face but Rockstar will shoehorn in the gritty dark Max Payne theme and pretend like it matches that environment. I wouldn't be mad if they just made this into a new IP since that's basically what this is with the exception of bullet time, narration and the VA.
subversus said:
I kind of liked GTA4, but I don't think the writing was a strong point. Both the structure of the plot and the execution I found lacking. Take the MacRearys, for instance. There's one huge thing you do to them that has no denouement, it's never brought up again. They try and make you care about Kate, but to me at least failed to establish her as anything but dull -- and the game allows you to pick her just to turn her into a woman in refrigerator.
They give you an antagonist, then kill him off-screen, and give you a Joe Pesci-a-like (closer to LW3 than Goodfellas) as an enemy instead. And a game that starts really well with Niko's search for redemption and immigrant woes just degenerates into mafia nonsense at the end.
That said, I like the MP3 trailer.
I'm not saying we should care about that, but people act like its not Max Payne because its not in night time NY and because he is bald? I mean, wtf? Its not like world will stop because couple of forums are butthurth because game is not how they set it up in their mind. Game will most probably be received great and sales will go through the roof, and maybe next game ends up in Japan, who knows with R*.angular graphics said:
Here is a little story about how my friend jumped to conclusion(even if he actually saw gameplay of that game).
My friend was hardcore Warcraft 1-2 player, and when 3rd came out and he saw heroes he said "This is not Warcraft I know, wtf have they done? I won't buy this game". He played it last year, I gave him a disk, he was so impressed he went and bought himself 2 more copies. Now he is also WOW addict, and he didn't want to buy that game either, said "This is no RTS, fuck you Blizzard"but he changed his mind once he played it...
This is R*, story CANT be crap(compared to other games, not classic movies or books) and it will surely be polished to perfection, especially atmosphere because thats what they do, even if that cost them two times more than they projected. I think people should take it easy and wait for gameplay videos, I wasn't hyped about RDR until I saw real gameplay...
DerZuhälter
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Honestly.
This Max Payne drama shows exactly the fucked up mindset of industry and fans alike. The industry pulls up rehash after rehash, sequel after sequel, believing an established "brand", no matter how fucking mutilated it gets, or no matter how fucking stale it gets, the brand alone will bring in the customers.
And the customer, the gamer, tha passionate fan, what does he do?
He cries and he weeps no matter what. He begs for a sequel to be made, he begs for a change in direction because it's getting stale, he cries why the formula got changed in the first place. It's basically a lost battle for devs getting shit forced down their throats from publishern and fans alike.
Just look at the threads for Splinter Cell, Hitman, Syndicate, X-Com or Modern Warfare.
Truth is: What I've just seen in this Max Payne 3 trailer looks like an excellent game. An excellent game that could have stood on it's own. Without the Max Payne brand, without having disgruntled fans arguing about the change of setting. R* is a brand of it's own. It could probably sell steaming dog shit, without an attached brand. And the Max Payne saga found a perfect ending in Max Payne 2
This Max Payne drama shows exactly the fucked up mindset of industry and fans alike. The industry pulls up rehash after rehash, sequel after sequel, believing an established "brand", no matter how fucking mutilated it gets, or no matter how fucking stale it gets, the brand alone will bring in the customers.
And the customer, the gamer, tha passionate fan, what does he do?
He cries and he weeps no matter what. He begs for a sequel to be made, he begs for a change in direction because it's getting stale, he cries why the formula got changed in the first place. It's basically a lost battle for devs getting shit forced down their throats from publishern and fans alike.
Just look at the threads for Splinter Cell, Hitman, Syndicate, X-Com or Modern Warfare.
Truth is: What I've just seen in this Max Payne 3 trailer looks like an excellent game. An excellent game that could have stood on it's own. Without the Max Payne brand, without having disgruntled fans arguing about the change of setting. R* is a brand of it's own. It could probably sell steaming dog shit, without an attached brand. And the Max Payne saga found a perfect ending in Max Payne 2
the unlockable ending with Mona living
Angry Fork
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So go play Gears and watch their boring ones? Why should Max Payne have to change just because you have bad taste?DarkChild said:
IC_Champion
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NotTheGuyYouKill said:
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You have trouble reading? I said, GREAT, I hate comic style cut scenes, they bore me to death. If you love them go play MP1-2 because you are not going to see them again...Angry Fork said:
And so I guess I have bad taste because I don't like type of cutscene 0,05% games use?Right...