That's probably why I didn't like it then. Rockstar's never been able to write a good story let alone a great one.
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Max Payne 3 is a bad game [very long rant]
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That's probably why I didn't like it then. Rockstar's never been able to write a good story let alone a great one.
Zombie James
Banned
I went from the hate wagon to the love train pretty quickly with Max Payne 3.
Ciastek3214
Junior Member
Tell me how to play this game, because sure as hell this game doesn't play as good as MP 1 & 2.
Eh, that's one person's opinion. I thought the story was awesome.
that's k, franchising is dumb and holds back design
Exr
Member
Out of curiosity, was MP3 your first experience with the series?
Actually, unskippable cutscenes were the main reason I only played through the game once. I would have passed on buying this game or at least wait for it to be like 75% off before buying it if I knew about this beforehand. It's beyond aggravating, so I agree with that much.
Ciastek3214
Junior Member
You didn't answer my question. And this statement is only right when a franchise didn't have good design in a first place.
that animation priority is holding the controls back.
Hahhaha. Probably the most funniest post I've read all day.
Spring-Loaded
Member
And I'll be back to pick apart the OP. Pick it apart like a motherfucker.
I can see why you'd find that funny. As long as you don't give me a lecture on why it was a "good" story then we'll be alright.
What if he likes it?
WHITE TEXT SHAKING WITH SPECIAL EFFECTS ON THE SCREEN REPRESENTING NOIR
YOU DONT UNDESTAND BRO
Everybody has their own opinions. But I do believe Rockstar has put out better stories than most in the videogame industry.
Ciastek3214
Junior Member
What does that have to do with the story being "good"?
you didn't play 1 or 2 either huh? being a madman is awesome.
Christberg
Member
IMO, the problem with Max Payne 3 wasn't that the game wasn't good but rather that it wasn't a good Max Payne game. Didn't stop me from playing through the game a couple times, but it's a cover shooter 100% which isn't what the original games were about at all.
Agreed with everything in the OP. Max Payne 1+2 are two of my favorite games of all time, Max Payne 3 is one of the worse AAA games i have ever played. Garbage game.
I'm willing to bet the same people that loved MP3 are the same people that loved GTA4 for the POS that was. Same fuckwit writters behind both games.
You can't even get 5 minutes of gameplay in this game with a friken cutscene, loading screen or 'turret' segment. Also how can you fuck up something as simple as the TV shows in Max Payne 3? I'm struggling to see how this is a Max Payne. Just because it has Max Payne 3 on the box, the main character is called Max and it has bullet time it doesn't mean it's a Max Payne game. Fuck this game.
Alan Wake is the true Max Payne 3. Alan Wake 2 will be Max Payne 4.
I'm willing to bet the same people that loved MP3 are the same people that loved GTA4 for the POS that was. Same fuckwit writters behind both games.
You can't even get 5 minutes of gameplay in this game with a friken cutscene, loading screen or 'turret' segment. Also how can you fuck up something as simple as the TV shows in Max Payne 3? I'm struggling to see how this is a Max Payne. Just because it has Max Payne 3 on the box, the main character is called Max and it has bullet time it doesn't mean it's a Max Payne game. Fuck this game.
Alan Wake is the true Max Payne 3. Alan Wake 2 will be Max Payne 4.
iNvid02
Member
i was ready to reply but then i saw it was you, carry on lol
Then by all means go and make a thread detailing why it's great, just as the OP did here. Anyway I agree - it's a poor excuse of a Max Payne game and an average action game on it's own.
That doesn't mean the writing was good. Being entertained and something being well written or told are 2 entirely different things.
Played both of them, and i don't remember jumping into the walls frequently.Max Payne always offers you enough space to move through the levels.
If he enjoyed it then one can assume he thought it was good. How is that confusing?
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Deleted member 81567
Unconfirmed Member
I agree. I wish it didn't end the way it did with Max though. They didn't really do much to his character in this game.
Still badass.
Ciastek3214
Junior Member
Also the animation system in these doesn't introduce input lag so it's much more intuitive and doesn't make shoot-dodging all clumsy.
You didn't answer my question. I said what does it have to do with the story being "good", not what he assumes is a "good" story.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
No.
The OP invalidated his opinion by saying the use of Euphoria was a bad idea. There are legitimate criticisms you can have with the game but that's not one of them. The animation and physics lead to some of the most badass and entertaining gunfights I've ever experienced in a game.
it also gives you lots of obstacles to jump into. mp 1 and 2 do not give a fuuuck, you just keep shooting, or you get right up and do it again and its awesome.
playing differently doesn't mean it's bad
franchising does hold back design. it also skews perception and reception of titles
deus ex: invisible war
hitman: absolution
halo wars
splinter cell:double agent/conviction
resident evil 6
shadowrun
Broder Salsa
Banned
I played it for a couple of hours and never felt like going back, disliked most things about it and the cutscenes and story bullshit was so bad and sadly so unskipable.
Ciastek3214
Junior Member
Whether you don't have any good arguments to back up your claim about Max Payne 3 being a good game, or you're just lazy, you're not helping yourself.
I highly recommend people watch this video on the issue of cutscenes and storytelling in videogames the video concerns Max Payne 3 in particular.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RGORttEnzA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RGORttEnzA
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
I just stated my opinion, I'm not trying to prove something.
Your opinion is wrong, anyway.
It was an ok game. Not bad but not that good either
sucks because I absolutely adore the franchise, it has a special place in my gamer heart. The visual style departure and other changes just made me really annoyed.
I agree about the animations tho. sigh I miss the first two games
sucks because I absolutely adore the franchise, it has a special place in my gamer heart. The visual style departure and other changes just made me really annoyed.
I agree about the animations tho. sigh I miss the first two games
you take the good with the bad obviously. iteration is how games get better. assassins creed, case in point. thank god assassins creed 1 sold well, as shit as it was.
In MP3 you have to mix the shoot dodge with the cover, not use only one of them.Not to mention you can climb most of the obstacles and then jump.
Yeah, you don't need to write an essay in support of every perspective. If someone thought Max Payne 3 was good they don't need to submit evidence or proof or whatever, especially to satisfy someone on a message board.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
The writing was more that solid. Stop exaggerating.
NullPointer
Member
Not to try and play it like it was any other shooter.
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Yes, in this game animation takes priority, and if you do a bullet time jump you better not have aimed directly into a wall or bookcase. This game is going to throw you into very bad situations and expect you to play very aggressive to survive them - its not a game for procrastinators - its all in the moment. To fit the specific cinematic theme of Max Payne 3, there are no loading screens, cinemas usually transition you between areas and switch up camera angles, and encounters tend to happen at shorter ranges where the action is in your face.
Unkippable cut-scenes are a problem for replays, and I think even those who love the game agree with that. But the rest of that OP is either somebody that doesn't appreciate the audio/visual style (subjective) or somebody who never came to terms with how this game is played (effective movement and cover usage).
Last Stand doesn't always work, and I'd love to be able to cancel out of it if there's no way to get a line of sight on who shot me, but we're talking about a mechanic that if it didn't exist would just mean the player dies and reloads from the last checkpoint. So, yeah, you can argue about the mechanic but lets at least understand that at that point you were already dead from fuck ups, ok?
So wait, the problem isn't that those games were horribly dumbed down to chase the lowest common denominator (in some cases at least) but that they were in an already established franchise that was known for quality? Am I reading that right?
Also some of those don't count. Halo Wars is an entirely different genre from Halo, it wasn't a main series game. Deus Ex, Splinter Cell and Hitman were meant to be main sequels.
No, Robocop for the Xbox was a bad game. Max Payne 3 is an okay shooter, but very underwhelming considering Rockstar's pedigree as a publisher.