Most of the time WiiU games looked and ran worse than their 360 counterparts,let's see what happens with the PS4.
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It doesn't need to be high end gaming PC. With all that fast memory it should be able to use great textures and it has enough processing power not to struggle with the framerate. Specially since there is no need for crazy resolutions like on PC. Even if Watch Dogs is a crossgen game, it should be crisp and smooth on a good gaming PC at 1080p.
And I said what?
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Give us a break with the nonsense.
CrichtonKicks
Member
Yeah, just go back and look at the AC3 performance thread from last year. People with high end rigs were struggling to get a constant 60 fps with all settings maxed.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Talk about jumping the gun. We haven't even hit launch yet we get a thread like this to remind the TC that launch games don't ever take advantage of the HW to the potential that later and more mature HW cycle games do. Not that there aren't some great looking PS4 games that have been shown already but nothing has shipped nor will it ship for at least a few more months.
Triggerhappytel
Member
This.
Plus, if SSM and ND are able to put out incredible PS3 games like GoW Ascension and The Last of Us in 2013, imagine what they'll be able to do with the PS4 in five or six years. I would argue that it's towards the tail end of the generation that we'll really see all the power inside the console.
none of them are.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
Maybe it's Ubisoft's fault? Maybe the game was developed with PS3/360 in mind?
Lots of explanations.
Lots of explanations.
MikeJAMoran
Member
Watch Dogs is a brand new game still in development on pre-release hardware.
AC3 is out. It was designed with current-gen mind.
Metalmurphy
Member
Still waiting for the op to reply...
BloodMoney
Banned
What if people didn't really know what specs mean? And they overhyped it as they do with everything?
This.
Because God of War 2, Halo 4, Conker: Live and Reloaded, Resident Evil 4, Mario Galaxy, Crysis 3, Bioshock Infinite, Last of Us, Uncharted 2, and every other graphical showcase came out for their respective consoles during launch.
Very bad and non informed OP, please take your time and rationalize before clicking the Create Thread button. Welcome to NeoGAF, enjoy your dogpile
Exactly, it's all UbiSoft. In other words, if it comes out and runs like shit on any console or PC, it's probably them that's fucked up rather than any fault of the console or power of your PC.
Stiflers Mom
Banned
Well, they are what they are. No secrets there.
Whatever you seem to read out of demonstrations for half finished games is yours to interprete.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Granted it wasn't at max settings but it looked virtually the same.
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I've heard that AC3 was a bit rough on the PS3 as well, maybe it's down to Ubisoft being crap at dishing out yearly updates of their franchises?
eurogmer said:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-playstation-4
It's like complaining that Xbox 360's BF4 alpha is missing textures.
I'll judge the games when they are done.
This looks shit. Will not buy.
It is. Launch and cross generational games don't do it justice, never did to any system. Here's how games can look like:
The Order 1886
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/06/10/the-order-1886-brings-victorian-era-to-playstation-4/
This looks shit. Will not buy.
I need it in my face
Metalmurphy
Member
Still waiting
It is a joke, but was the PS4 overheating at the AC demo? I'm having a hard time believing anyone would think that was worth showcasing.
Randy Monk
Member
Thank you based OP, you have opened my eyes. PS4 pre order cancelled.
BTW what are your top 10 must have launch titles for the Xbox 180? I would love to hear your opinion. Don't reply in this thread just make a new one.
BTW what are your top 10 must have launch titles for the Xbox 180? I would love to hear your opinion. Don't reply in this thread just make a new one.
velociraptor
Junior Member
To be honest I'm simply surprised at the graphical downgrades we have seen with Watch_Dogs.
The game appears to look worse and worse everytime it is shown. Did you guys see the Jimmy Fallon video? I didn't expect Watch_Dogs to look like a masterpiece, but it almost looked like a current-gen game in that demo!
The game appears to look worse and worse everytime it is shown. Did you guys see the Jimmy Fallon video? I didn't expect Watch_Dogs to look like a masterpiece, but it almost looked like a current-gen game in that demo!
sleeping_dragon
Banned
You judge the PS4 on some pre alpha launch game? Really? And the like of Naughty Dog, Polyphony and SSM hasn't even shows their card yet? However, I find it strange you left out The Order, The Dark Sorcerer for your convenient which graphically speaking looks the best on any hardware shown at E3.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
They just haven't unlocked the power of the gddr5 yet.
Black Republican
Member
Its strong in specs, the first wave wont show much obviously. its a shame its being used in fanboy wars too much though, have we learned nothing the last 2-3 gens?
Paracelsus
Member
When you are unquestionably the strongest in the yard isn't a moot point to argue you could be even stronger?
BloodMoney
Banned
nice...
velociraptor
Junior Member
For the specs? i5 2500k OC, 8GB RAM, MSI TFIII 6950 OC.
Again, I'm simply assuming with the power of the 'closed box', it should be easier to utilise power, especially if you 'code to the metal' (whatever that means..)
Yes I know this thread has gotten a huge amount of backlash, but I'm just honestly surprised. Perhaps my expectations were too high. The PS3 has some visually fantastic games despite being on such dated hardware. The PS4 is a substantially stronger piece of hardware. But it doesn't appear to be that way.
I don't need to prove it, I don't need to prove the average piano weights more than a guitar either, it's still a fact. Watch Dogs isn't magical, Ubisoft's engineering isn't going to nullify a huge performance gulf.
It's actually impossible to prove something like that, because it's subjective. People holder different aspects of a game's graphics with different levels of importance. Some favor great image quality above higher poly models, or better object texturing versus crisper alphas, or whatever. You can't objectively declare one game to be visually superior to others. My post meant for most people, it will likely be a clear win. I can't guarantee everyone who cared them would agree, but that's obvious.
I played warframe on PS4 and looked awesome.
I played Killzone and looked awesome and smooth.
Infamous Second Son it's more than amazing (ok, I haven't play it, just watched it played in front of my eyes on real TV).
Same for all those other games: Watchdog, Assassin creed, etc etc
Please, stop complaining!
How many of you are have tried (or saw) these games in real life ?
Wait for the final release and anyway we got it, PC is the best because every mid-range pc can run every game at 1080p/60fps. Awesome!
So, what now? Console players should start to play on PC only?
Console player need to admit their fault because they play games on garbage tech?
What is your point in the end?
I don't really catch it sorry.
I played Killzone and looked awesome and smooth.
Infamous Second Son it's more than amazing (ok, I haven't play it, just watched it played in front of my eyes on real TV).
Same for all those other games: Watchdog, Assassin creed, etc etc
Please, stop complaining!
How many of you are have tried (or saw) these games in real life ?
Wait for the final release and anyway we got it, PC is the best because every mid-range pc can run every game at 1080p/60fps. Awesome!
So, what now? Console players should start to play on PC only?
Console player need to admit their fault because they play games on garbage tech?
What is your point in the end?
I don't really catch it sorry.
BattleMonkey
Member
Comparing complete released games to unfinished games, brilliant.
Betta Lines
Member
It's a cross-gen game. It doesn't take full advantage of next-gen systems.
BloodMoney
Banned
Wait till you see TitanFall running on an actual XB1...... that doesn't have Windows 7 or a GTX780.
More likely to be a bug. DF said they played the same segment with no issues.
Bear in mind that Guerilla said at the PS Meeting in Feb Killzone had a 3/100 chance of failing live on stage. Shit happens with unfinished code.
None of the launch games are going to code to the metal. But I kind of agree. Knack doesnt look to amazing visually in my opinion so its disapointing its only 30fps.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I think the Wii U is a perfect storm of bad factors (most of which are Nintendo's fault) - a relatively high price; the lack of even one piece of essential software; poor post-launch software support; very poor third party support; a confused message about the console's benefits; poor marketing. Sony could and should sidestep most of these, although who knows if its exclusive software will be really good, or if they'll have a crown jewel 'killer app' release any time soon.
MotorStorm looked like crap too at E3 2006. It looked awesome at the EU launch. If they also turn arond DriveClub like that for the launch, they might be the weirdest studio ever.
Dragon1893
Member
These threads man....
Metalmurphy
Member
That's mid end now?
And even with that you wouldn't be getting 60 at 1080p. More like 40-50.
intheinbetween
Member
my thoughts exactly.
maybe just because I got used to play mainly on my PC-rig, which though it isn't high-end, it's pretty decent (i2500k OC@4.0, 4GB DDR3 2133, SSD) I can't see a noticeable generation lap with this new consoles.
It's only fair as that's how the WiiU was judged.
Bog
Junior Ace
NBA '07, a launch game, did run at 1080p.