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Media Create Sales: 02/16 - 02/22
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Rocksteady33
Junior Member
Ahhh, almost 1,000 posts. Media-Create threads are back bitches.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Yeah, see, Sony has this magical thing called "third parties", which Nintendo could have had too if they hadn't spent the better part of the last 20 years being complete pricks to them.Laguna said:
Y2Kev said:
Maybe a port of the Wii game?
*rimshot*
Segata Sanshiro said:
I know I'm being picky, but can you really say the "better part" of the last 20 years? Also, what constitutes "being complete pricks"? I know charlequin thinks Nintendo should've outright bought more games for the Wii, so is that part of your definition of "complete pricks"?
Segata Sanshiro
Member
The bottom line is this: very few people that actually *like* video games would take the Wii's last six months of software over *either* of the other two systems, all things being equal.Laguna said:
This turn of events is entirely Nintendo's fault for being complacent and just trying to coast, and as a Wii owner, I sincerely hope this is a wake-up call for them to smarten the fuck up, because this shit? It's getting fucking ridiculous over here.
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
jeremy1456 said:
Muramasa has 70k expected in Japan according to Marvelous's projections.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Yeah Nintendo's first party software seems to have things under lock and key on the Wii. No one's complaining, sales are soaring, Japan is basking in the awesome contented glory of Nintendo's great first party software. Just look at that top 10!markatisu said:
*This* attitude of "Nintendo doesn't need third parties" is part of the problem.
test_account
XP-39C²
"Feels like i'm wearing nothing at all, nothing at all, NOTHING AT ALL", i think it is cool when Flanders say this in this Simpsons episodebmf said:Hey guys......
Segata Sanshiro said:
When Wii Fit makes more money/revenue then several of the Top 10 combined do they need to hold all 10 spots?
Nintendo does not really need third parties, third parties certainly did not make the Wii what it is and if Nintendo would release more games that would most likely still be the case with Wii doing DS/PSP level #'s
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Yes, well, we don't live in that fantasy world where Nintendo *didn't* fuck up their Wii release schedule, sadly.markatisu said:
markatisu said:
So the fact that Nintendo has done the bare minimum to get third parties on the system isnt their fault? Are they fucking misers? They have the cash and the leverage to get third parties really going on the system but they dont care. Or are you happy with just Wii Fit?
markatisu said:
No, Nintendo doesn't. The GameCube certainly showed that. However a fuller and more rounded lineup (which third-parties are a key part in providing) is necessary for the Wii to reach its potential.
From the IGN podcast, Motion+ has been delayed again. Wii is so screwed in Japan. :lol
It will be interesting to see what happens next
Link said:
In your world Nintendo would be delisted tomorrow and go third party because they have completely given up Japan, we know thats not the case and that Nintendo realizes they botched things
If Wii Motion + launches in May as it should and still Wii is hovering around 20k then I will entertain your depressing as hell pessimistic views
Someone should tell EA Wii Motion + was delayed because as of yesterday they are saying its coming before June 18th
I live in the US so I am happy with MadWorld and HoTD Overkill, because the US does have 3rd party support :lol
Link
The Autumn Wind
I'm not saying that at all. Nintendo is still profitable as hell. But the Wii is never going to sell anywhere near the PS2 (or even the PSP) and it's never going to have the lion's share of third party support.markatisu said:
Motion + alone is not going to do anything for sales. It's going to depend on what software supports it. Sure, Wii Sports Resort is going to sell huge, but will it sell hardware? It's most likely just going to sell the the established Wii Sports userbase.
Spiegel said:
I also want to know how you can delay something that has no real release date
We all know it will be available either before or after E3 which is in May regardless of what Nintendo says now
I mean it is still 3 months away and we all know Nintendo likes to talk about things 2 weeks before they come out
Spiegel said:
Here's the relevant section.
Aaron Strife said:
If that's taken at face value, it indicates a worldwide delay. However, I guess it's possible they were going off of a staggered release schedule initially, so a Japanese delay to June would mean a U.S. delay after June. Now I'm glad The Conduit isn't using Motion+.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
donny2112 said:From the IGN podcast, Motion+ has been delayed again. Wii is so screwed in Japan. :lol
Time for NCL to make a Wii Sports bundle.
donny2112 said:
E3 will be interesting since they showed Wii Sports Resort last year, unless they have some major games that will support it coming at GDC and E3
and like i said someone needs to tell EA because they are actively telling people the add-on will be out to take advantage of their games :lol
Regulus Tera said:
That and/or drop the price to 20,000 Yen. If they were counting on Motion+ related stuff to boost them soon and that's getting delayed, a price drop is about all they can do in a quick fashion. It would also serve to help clear out stock in case they had SKU changing plans coming up.
Grampa Simpson
Banned
Stupid Sexy Flanders.test_account said:"Feels like i'm wearing nothing at all, nothing at all, NOTHING AT ALL", i think it is cool when Flanders say this in this Simpsons episode
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
donny2112 said:
It seems to me that Wii Sports is the reason why North American and European sales of the console are still at near launch levels. I fathom that, had Nintendo bundled it in Japan too, the situation wouldn't be that dissimilar with the other territories.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
This is going to be a really interesting period between now and "sometime after June" when Wii Sports Resort releases.
MarzipaNMOS
Member
Segata Sanshiro said:
preach it brother
This is probably the most missed opportunity in the history of "comebacks".
"Hey we got all these kickass hardware sales should we maybe try to keep them with some software that appeals to our entire demographic rather than keep focusing on one?"
"Nah dawg we got it, wii music and animal crossing. Just mention zelda is coming or some shit and that'll be enough for the core."
Segata Sanshiro said:
You don´t seem to get the point. It´s just downright delusional to call out Nintendo for not releasing "evergreens" or "mega-hits" on a regular basis that´s ridiculous, since it´s actually only one publisher and those kind of games take their time to develop. Like I said before it´s like asking Sony to release software like GT5 every 3-5 months. It´s only logical that Nintendo alone can´t deliver as much as most 3rd party publishers together :lol . And it´s also not like Nintendo can obligate 3rd party to do what they want either, especially when they have to promote the hell out of their games that were in development for years right now.
Link
The Autumn Wind
Not complete certainty, but the PSP has been getting much more consistent third party support, and that doesn't look to be changing. Why would third parties bother with the Wii when they can just use their PS2 engines for the PSP instead and not have to worry about adding in motion support?schuelma said:
Grampa Simpson
Banned
Isn't it quite a bit of the opposite of last generation? Wasn't Nintendo falling over itself trying to get 3rd parties onto the Gamecube, only to be left deserted because Sony had the market leading console? Maybe Nintendo's position has become that since they're the market leading console, 3rd parties will come to them.HK-47 said:
test_account
XP-39C²
Hehe yebmf said:
markatisu said:
Atleast way announced some niche titles like Tales of Ten, MH3 and the most niche Dragon Quest X
Most likely there won´t be any announcement after the recondirmation of Crystal Bearers. Honestly some people here are really incredible... Link said:
You know Japan>World or was it the other way around?
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Linkup said:
SW3? What's that?
MarzipaNMOS
Member
Regulus Tera said:
samurai warriors
Segata Sanshiro said:
No shit. As a long-time (20+ years) gamer and Wii owner, I'm completely pissed at Nintendo for their actions of the past year. Where the fuck are the games?!?! And if they can't make them on their own, why don't they hire people - or buy companies - that can? Honestly, it makes no sense.
I think Link's pessimism isn't unreasonable. I believe that Nintendo needs an overwhelming command of the market to lure third parties over: if things are split down the middle between Nintendo and Sony, the vast majority of third parties will choose the Sony platform.
The Wii needs to outsell the PS3 3:1 or more, I expect, consistently, to force companies to make games for it. That isn't happening, and it won't happen soon.
The third party support it has already acquired likely isn't going anywhere, but bringing in more at this point will be a very hard sell. Yakuza on PS3 just sold better than any third party Wii game's first week in over a year. Third parties notice these things.
The Wii needs to outsell the PS3 3:1 or more, I expect, consistently, to force companies to make games for it. That isn't happening, and it won't happen soon.
The third party support it has already acquired likely isn't going anywhere, but bringing in more at this point will be a very hard sell. Yakuza on PS3 just sold better than any third party Wii game's first week in over a year. Third parties notice these things.