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Media Create Sales: 09/01 - 09/07
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Phife Dawg
Member
Slow weak is slow.
So yeah, Afrika should be tracking higher for sure. But I can see where people are coming from. It was a heavily touted title and was featured prominently even at the PS3 reveal, from that perspective crawling to 100k isn't really something to write home about. Otoh the way the project was handled after it's reveal I expected less from it.
I think after the ASH fiasco the writing was on the wall. Do we have sellthrough percentages, it would be interesting to see what retail expected out of the title.
Did they even make 40k LTD yet? :lol Ratchet bombed big time, there wasn't really much to expect from HS though.Fafalada said:
So yeah, Afrika should be tracking higher for sure. But I can see where people are coming from. It was a heavily touted title and was featured prominently even at the PS3 reveal, from that perspective crawling to 100k isn't really something to write home about. Otoh the way the project was handled after it's reveal I expected less from it.
Was really popular (for 360 standards) as a classic JRPG.viciouskillersquirrel said:
I think after the ASH fiasco the writing was on the wall. Do we have sellthrough percentages, it would be interesting to see what retail expected out of the title.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
harSon said:I think it's time for Sakaguchi to call it quits on the DS, although I have to admit Away is looking pretty awesome
I wouldn't surprised if Blue Dragon+ actually turned a profit though.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
donny2112 said:Since you've already put your stuff in the second post, I'll just update the original post as normal. Next week, I'll try to go to sleep early.
P.S. I like that you're not doing the columns for 11-30, since that keeps the title intact.
Cool.
Speaking of the columns, I'm not sure I even like it. The marginal amount it looks better isn't worth the extra work or the distorted game titles.
Also, how are you translating?
Eteric Rice
Member
I think Mistwalker needs to rethink everything they're doing.
Then again, I'm uncertain about RPGs in Japan right now anyway. I think the genre might be in a lul.
Then again, I'm uncertain about RPGs in Japan right now anyway. I think the genre might be in a lul.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
are we talking about Blue Dragon as a whole flopping or DS ?
they targetted 200k sales in Japan for XBOAT and achieved that goal, it's also part of the RPG line up now attracting new gamers to the Xboat, so i think MS/MistWalker know exactly what they are doing on that front.
they targetted 200k sales in Japan for XBOAT and achieved that goal, it's also part of the RPG line up now attracting new gamers to the Xboat, so i think MS/MistWalker know exactly what they are doing on that front.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
jimbo said:
He's talking about the franchise and its apparent inability to be marketed to Japan. They've given it a major "do not want" in every way, shape or form it's appeared in.
sp0rsk said:
1. Anecdotal evidence.
2. DS is proof of that? What does the 360 game prove then? Games still have to be good, to be purchased by people. Name is not enough, especially when you are talking about a relatively new and small name like BD.
It's like asking Square to drop FF when The Spirits Within flopped.
Bleach and Naruto (and previously One Piece) are all evening shows. Blue Dragon is on on Saturday mornings. Different audiences. And as far as Blue Dragon goes, it's actually pretty popular. Neck and neck with Keroro each week:sp0rsk said:
http://www.geocities.jp/animesityouritu/2008a.html
BishopLamont
Banned
Sporks you gotta explain your avatar. What is the girl doing?
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
what is that even supposed to mean?
The DS sales figures proves a lack of interest via an absence of sales,
but we can disregard the X360 sales success because of the userbase?
you can't use the same yard stick twice but reject the one that doesn't fit your analysis surely?
seattle6418
Member
Fafalada said:
My mistake. I was thinking worldwide numbers (1 million at least, like those two). That was when Afrika was big on press conferences. Later on i found out it was Japan only.
I know that Ratchet and HS bombed in Japan, but that was kind of expected.
I just thougt that WW, Afrika would have a similar impact, but things change, its not even a WW title anymore.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
okay, so - Blue Dragon is popular with Otaku, it's not popular with kids.
even if we go with this - drop the kids projects, continue with the otaku projects.
taking your take on things, it's a flop with kids , but not with Otaku right?
so i'm not sure why the should drop BD altogether.
juicyfruitas
Member
DCharlie said:
let it go man, let it go. the straws can no longer be grasped....
Pureauthor
Member
I think Mistwalker's fundamental problem is that they are trying to be a SE clone, and SE is really the only company in the Japanese market that has ever succeeded in high-budget, graphics-pushing RPGs.
charlequin
Banned
I can't disagree more with sporsk's crazy craziness in this thread. Blue Dragon is a worthwhile IP and I am quite certain that a sequel for 360 is already in development.
Mistwalker's fundamental problem is that they don't have a business plan built around success. (Yeah, I know that's kind of tautological.)
Most accounts suggest that Sakaguchi was a very touchy-feely manager when he was at S-E, big on building up new talent but not otherwise interested in micromanaging or telling people what to do. (Wada's pretty much continued that, minus the "building up new talent" thing.) It seems like Mistwalker is somewhat the same way -- they don't have a coherent plan for what games they're making, or how to market said games when they release, or when their games will be ready. This worked out okay for the 360 games but when they just kind of shit out these crappy DS games that no one really took the time to love and nurture onto the market they get swallowed up.
Pureauthor said:
Mistwalker's fundamental problem is that they don't have a business plan built around success. (Yeah, I know that's kind of tautological.)
Most accounts suggest that Sakaguchi was a very touchy-feely manager when he was at S-E, big on building up new talent but not otherwise interested in micromanaging or telling people what to do. (Wada's pretty much continued that, minus the "building up new talent" thing.) It seems like Mistwalker is somewhat the same way -- they don't have a coherent plan for what games they're making, or how to market said games when they release, or when their games will be ready. This worked out okay for the 360 games but when they just kind of shit out these crappy DS games that no one really took the time to love and nurture onto the market they get swallowed up.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
At least by Famitsu's view, I haven't seen either hit 40K yet.Fafalada said:
I am surprised at Afrika. It seemed like something that would mostly be ignored. An Eternal Ocean on land.
sp0rsk said:
How is the anime a flop when it ran for 52 episodes and then got a SECOND SEASON that's running now?
What about the Konami Blue Dragon Trading Card game? They're pumping expansions out regularly too. Doesn't seem like a bomb to me. It's not exactly a huge franchise that's super-popular, but there's definitely a fanbase, it's too bad that the DS game totally didn't even try to tap into that by being a game that no one would want to buy.
jesusraz
Member
You think it would have done better if it'd been a Trading Card RPG instead?duckroll said:How is the anime a flop when it ran for 52 episodes and then got a SECOND SEASON that's running now?
What about the Konami Blue Dragon Trading Card game? They're pumping expansions out regularly too. Doesn't seem like a bomb to me. It's not exactly a huge franchise that's super-popular, but there's definitely a fanbase, it's too bad that the DS game totally didn't even try to tap into that by being a game that no one would want to buy.
