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[felipeko]

DS refuses to sature...

 

[Sharp]

And the DS begins its slow descent into obscurity.

It's a descent that might be worth over 10 million units, of course.

 

[Zombie James]

Wow, kind of surprised at how well Wii and especially PS3 is holding up.

People were predicting it'd go back down to ~10K/week post-holiday, iirc.

 

[Raw64life]

Impressive for PS3 considering nothing worth mentioning came out last week or this week.

 

[Frillen]

Where's Cheezy anyway?

Oh and RE:UC is #41

 

[AniHawk]

Impressive for PS3 considering nothing worth mentioning came out last week or this week.

Or since launch for that matter.

 

[Grecco]

And the DS begins its slow descent into obscurity.

Just in time for DS Slim

 

[Scum]

Or since launch for that matter.

:lol

 

[Jammy]

Or since launch for that matter.

:lol

 

[Stop It]

And the DS begins its slow descent into obscurity.

Emphasis here on slow, methinks, that said, I think DS sales highlight how well Wii is doing post holiday, PSP still selling to....someone I suppose (Arrrr!) and PS3, will it stay at this level, a level which is actually almost acceptable to Sony? or will it drop to 15k again before long, who knows?

 

[RBH]

Or since launch for that matter.

:lol :lol

 

[DarthWaiter]

Every week I come to these threads and the PSP sells a butt load of hardware, but its rare to see titles at all. Sony has got to do something about this

 

[schuelma]

To put the PS3's number in perspective, it was at 21K the same time last year. Looks like things may have stabilized for the time being.

 

[Elios83]

Next thursday is pretty busy for Wii and PS3 software wise (Smash Bros for Wii, DMC4 bundle, Disgaea3 and I've heard also Assassin's Creed for PS3) so Wii and PS3 sales should go up.
How's the release schedule for February?
We already know that March will be full of big releases.

 

[Gaborn]

To put the PS3's number in perspective, it was at 21K the same time last year. Looks like things may have stabilized for the time being.

Either way, last year the PS3 was in SECOND place among the consoles, this year the PS3 is in SECOND place. The king is dead, long live the king. Sony can't, and shouldn't be happy they are no longer the dominant player in Japan.

 

[schuelma]

Either way, last year the PS3 was in SECOND place among the consoles, this year the PS3 is in SECOND place. The king is dead, long live the king. Sony can't, and shouldn't be happy they are no longer the dominant player in Japan.

Yes, but if it keeps doing similiar numbers it can at least emerge as a viable option.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

A general note on my online software data: a combination of a new schedule for me, a glut of end-of-2007 data, newly noticed monthly data for the last few years, and most recently a cold has put me a bit behind. So basically things are slightly less complete than usual right now. However, since it's generally yearly stuff that didn't make the overall top 100, and monthly stuff that happened outside of the weekly top 30s, you're probably not going to notice something off unless you yourself also compile this data.

Also, and maybe this was brought up a few days ago and I missed it or skimmed by it, in Enterbrain's news about Wii reaching 5 million in Japan (or at least IGN's coverage of it), it states

In all, the system sold 5,019,337 units from its launch on December 2, 2006 to January 20, 2008. This figure comes from Enterbrain, Famitsu's publisher and also a major game industry sales tracking firm.

It took the Wii sixty weeks to reach the five million mark. While a bit behind the DS's fifty-six week record, the Wii did beat the PlayStation 2's sixty-six weeks.

DS data matches this, more or less. At 56 weeks it was at 4.995 million and by the next was at 5.507. However, PS2 seems far off. With the old data I've got, PS2 doesn't hit 5 million until week 79. At week 66 it was just hitting 4 million.

 

[Gaborn]

Yes, but if it keeps doing similiar numbers it can at least emerge as a viable option.

It was always going to be a viable option in Japan, it wasn't like the 360 was suddenly going to emerge as competitive.

 

[reilo]

As long as 3rd parties keep their heads firmly in their asses, 3rd party games on the Wii will continue to suffer lukewarm receptions. Given that most of them seem unaware of the problem despite it being fairly obvious to some of us, this trend is likely to continue for quite some time.

With that in mind, I'd say that the HD & Wii games will be separate as kurosawa predicts, but I think the HD gaming side will largely be carried by the 360 and not the PS3.

Hardware Leader: Wii
Software Leader: 360

In Japan?! You are insane.

 

[womfalcs3]

DMC4, D 3, and Assassin's Creed next week. The PS3 should see a nice increase. (I don't know, AC sold decent on X360. I don't know if it's a different demographic, but I assume it's a game that may draw in some Japanese gamers.)

 

[mj1108]

Or since launch for that matter.

Oh snap.

:lol

 

[donny2112]

Did Donny give a prediction beyond "will sell much less than if it were on the PS2?"

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9453537&postcount=92

SSBB - sold out first shipment => ~600K
PS3 DMC4 - 90K

Assuming we're skeptical of European performance (as I personally am),

It's over 300K in the U.K.

With the old data I've got, PS2 doesn't hit 5 million until week 79. At week 66 it was just hitting 4 million.

Those 900K online sales near the launch that you used to mention?

 

[manueldelalas]

Either way, last year the PS3 was in SECOND place among the consoles, this year the PS3 is in SECOND place. The usurper is dead, long live the king. Sony can't, and shouldn't be happy they are no longer the dominant player in Japan.

Fixed for the fanboy truth

 

[Jasoncheng]

TOP50
NDS:26
Wii:9
PS2:5
PSP:5
PS3:4
XBOX360:1

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Those 900K online sales near the launch that you used to mention?

Yeah, I'm split between wondering whether this is further validation that Famitsu undertracked PS2 early on and later snuck in a million in its history that's missing from the weekly data we have, or whether it's just a simple mistake. It would be an extra coincidence if the week our data shows them hitting 4 million is exactly the week their revised data has it hitting 5 million.



EDIT: An unrelated thing, but minor enough I won't give it a full reply.

I notice that in the new Famitsu top 30, there are places where for the previous two weeks' ranks there are games with "-" instead of a number. Unfortunately this looks to be a return to old ways, where they won't make any mention of ranks beyond 30. More recently they'd list if a game had just been ranked lower, which allowed us to occasionally see some interesting things like games with shortage issues recovering from 80th place, or games popping in and out of 30th place +/- 5.

 

[donny2112]

Unfortunately this looks to be a return to old ways, where they won't make any mention of ranks beyond 30.

Dec 17-23 still had it, so maybe it's a change for the New Year.

 

[Cheesemeister]

31./29. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami)
32./39. [PSP] Haruhi Suzumiya's Promise (Bandai-Namco)
33./42. [PS2] Yakuza 2 (Sega)
34./34. [NDS] Kanji Test 2 (Rocket Co.)
35./32. [NDS] More English Training (Nintendo)
36./37. [NDS] Flash Focus: Vision Training in Minutes a Day (Nintendo)
37./27. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (Sony)
38./33. [PSP] Hot Shots Golf Portable 2 (Sony)
39./28. [NDS] Nep League DS (Jaleco)
40./00. [NDS] MySims (EA)
41./30. [WII] Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles (Capcom)
42./00. [NDS] Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters World Championship 2008 (Konami)
43./40. [PS3] Shin Sangoku Musou 5 (Koei)
44./36. [WII] Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Nintendo)
45./47. [NDS] Pokémon Diamond (Pokémon)
46./44. [PSP] Yuusha no Kuse ni Namaiki da (Sony)
47./00. [NDS] English Training (Nintendo)
48./00. [NDS] Brain Age (Nintendo)
49./00. [PS2] Juiced 2 (THQ Japan)
50./41. [NDS] Pokémon Mysterious Dungeon: Time Expedition Party (Pokémon)

NDS - 26
WII - 9
PS2 - 5
PSP - 5
PS3 - 4
360 - 1

Hardware - This Week | Last Week |       YTD |        LTD
1. NDS   -    88,575 |    97,369 |   452,512 | 21,625,563
2. WII   -    81,638 |    84,530 |   373,965 |  4,990,125
3. PSP   -    79,923 |    96,159 |   394,316 |  7,995,910
4. PS3   -    38,117 |    38,907 |   141,207 |  1,782,883
5. PS2   -    13,539 |    14,499 |    60,048 | 20,987,085
6. 360   -     4,552 |     4,690 |    19,005 |    526,346

 

[Zoe]

46./44. [PSP] Yuusha no Kuse ni Namaiki da (Sony)

Hanging in there!

 

[Dalthien]

Jet Impulse I swear we had numbers for, but I'm not seeing them now.

7,800 Jet Impulse (Nintendo) (2/8/07) - rounded off through Feb 18/07 (MC)

Chart is HERE.

 

[Rolf NB]

I think that's enough data to conclude that the price drops and the new model seems to have achieved a lasting, positive effect on PS3 sales. This should finally end the comparisons between PS3 and Gamecube trajectories (GC did 10k per week in its second January on the market).

edit: I might as well link to the data I'm comparing against: http://joshuajamesslone.name/gamecharting/vsps2gcn.php5

edit2: I also almost called it hurr hurr: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9095402&postcount=560

 

[D.Lo]

PS3 seems to be selling pretty well compared to its software sales. Based on this weeks software, there were surely at least 20k new buyers who bought no games, and with PS2 compatibility gone that's not an answer anymore.

Perhaps its media capabilities will ultimately save it from GameCube-like fate?

Kinda funny, if true, the PSP and PS3s media pretensions are )at least in part) what caused their failure in the market as gaming systems, but seem like will ultimately save them from total irrelevance. Not exactly good, but something!

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

I'm so fucking glad the PS3 is doing better. I hope it sustains this or even builds upon this momentum in the future.

Wow @ Wii, DS, and PSP.

 

[donny2112]

3 strong hardware performers + 1 low/middle hardware performer

Isn't this still one of the strongest hardware situations in Japan ever, though?

 

[Busaiku]

PS3 seems to be selling pretty well compared to its software sales. Based on this weeks software, there were surely at least 20k new buyers who bought no games, and with PS2 compatibility gone that's not an answer anymore.

There's a wealth of software not shown.
I mean, sure the numbers are pretty paltry in comparison, but it really does add up.
But a number of PS3 buyers probably did just buy it for a BD Player.

 

[reilo]

Gamecube [Famitsu]

2003-01-06:
13,526
2003-01-13:
11,142
2003-01-20:
9,341
2003-01-27:
8,177

 

[Dalthien]

edited

No, those numbers are all correct. Rock_Man and I double-checked them all, and all the ones that we have checked out as legit.

 

[donny2112]

No, those numbers are all correct. Rock_Man and I double-checked them all, and all the ones that we have checked out as legit.

Yes, I read down a little farther in the thread and got reminded of Rock_Man's reply at the time. Notice how you quoted something that no longer exists ...

Edit:
I was also pleasantly reminded of the Captain Calhoun reference in the same thread. I just finished reading his "Mirror Universe" story by Peter David, and it was great. Typical Peter David writing. :lol

 

[Dalthien]

Yes, I read down a little farther in the thread and got reminded of Rock_Man's reply at the time. Notice how you quoted something that no longer exists ...

Ha ha... You're fast!

 

[Lightning]

PS3 hardware holding steady, I like that. Keep it up Japan, I know you can do it.

 

[ethelred]

I think that's enough data to conclude that the price drops and the new model seems to have achieved a lasting, positive effect on PS3 sales. This should finally end the comparisons between PS3 and Gamecube trajectories (GC did 10k per week in its second January on the market).

Absolutely.

It's time for the Saturn comparisons to kick in.

 

[Rolf NB]

Absolutely.

It's time for the Saturn comparisons to kick in.

Does anything appear in this week's chart that you don't hate?

 

[Dragona Akehi]

Absolutely.

It's time for the Saturn comparisons to kick in.

Saturn is awesome.

PS3... not so much.

 

[Zombie James]

Think someone can whip up weekly year-on-year charts? For example, the Wii's 2008 compared to the Wii's 2007 so far?

 

[Odysseus]

Think someone can whip up weekly year-on-year charts? For example, the Wii's 2008 compared to the Wii's 2007 so far?

three week comparison

sys	2007	2008
nds	561,812	452,512
wii	375,434	373,965
ps3	116,580	141,207
psp	204,022	394,316
ps2	94,869	60,048
360	34,311	19,005

in other words...

down
flat
moderately up
way, way up
significantly down
significantly down... sort of.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Think someone can whip up weekly year-on-year charts? For example, the Wii's 2008 compared to the Wii's 2007 so far?

I've got a few such things sitting on my Collected Comparisons page, which I really need to split up into sub-pages since there are so many different types of things sitting there in a mess.

PS3 hardware sales, 2006 vs 2007 vs 2008 vs 2009 vs 2010, weekly, Famitsu
PS3 hardware sales, 2006 vs 2007 vs 2008 vs 2009 vs 2010, cumulative, Famitsu

PS3 hardware sales, 2006 vs 2007 vs 2008 vs 2009 vs 2010, weekly, Media Create
PS3 hardware sales, 2006 vs 2007 vs 2008 vs 2009 vs 2010, cumulative, Media Create

Wii hardware sales, 2006 vs 2007 vs 2008 vs 2009 vs 2010, weekly, Famitsu
Wii hardware sales, 2006 vs 2007 vs 2008 vs 2009 vs 2010, cumulative, Famitsu

Wii hardware sales, 2006 vs 2007 vs 2008 vs 2009 vs 2010, weekly, Media Create
Wii hardware sales, 2006 vs 2007 vs 2008 vs 2009 vs 2010, cumulative, Media Create

 

[Zombie James]

I've got a few such things sitting on my Collected Comparisons page, which I really need to split up into sub-pages since there are so many different types of things sitting there in a mess.

PS3 hardware sales, 2006 vs 2007 vs 2008 vs 2009 vs 2010, weekly, Famitsu
PS3 hardware sales, 2006 vs 2007 vs 2008 vs 2009 vs 2010, cumulative, Famitsu

PS3 hardware sales, 2006 vs 2007 vs 2008 vs 2009 vs 2010, weekly, Media Create
PS3 hardware sales, 2006 vs 2007 vs 2008 vs 2009 vs 2010, cumulative, Media Create

Wii hardware sales, 2006 vs 2007 vs 2008 vs 2009 vs 2010, weekly, Famitsu
Wii hardware sales, 2006 vs 2007 vs 2008 vs 2009 vs 2010, cumulative, Famitsu

Wii hardware sales, 2006 vs 2007 vs 2008 vs 2009 vs 2010, weekly, Media Create
Wii hardware sales, 2006 vs 2007 vs 2008 vs 2009 vs 2010, cumulative, Media Create

Wow, excellent!

 

[ethelred]

Does anything appear in this week's chart that you don't hate?

Does it really bother you that much which historical console failure this current failure of a console is compared to?

 

[blitz64]

looks like ps3 is starting to do better than the gamecube, which is a good start.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Absolutely.

It's time for the Saturn comparisons to kick in.

"You shut your filthy whore mouth."

 

[sprsk]

I think those are pretty great numbers for PS3. Considering it's really the only next gen system in Japan. I'm sure J-devs are happy to see it approach 40k a week.