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[D.Lo]

"You shut your filthy whore mouth."

Fixed for Japan-ness.

 

[AnimeTheme]

46./44. [PSP] Yuusha no Kuse ni Namaiki da (Sony)

Hanging in there!

I wonder if this game may slowly crack 100k, which will be very impressive for such a small-budget title.

 

[Darji]

PS3 hardware holding steady, I like that. Keep it up Japan, I know you can do it.

yep the only thing the PS3 needs now are great and many games for the japanese market.

 

[Nuclear Muffin]

Huh, Wii up DS down, that`s odd?

 

[Rolf NB]

Huh, Wii up DS down, that`s odd?

What? They're both slightly down. Stuff going slightly down is pretty much normal for this time of year, mind you.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

People were predicting it'd go back down to ~10K/week post-holiday, iirc.

I didn't predict Sony to kill 20/60GB SKUs. In other words, I don't think this 30-40k is the new stable level for PS3.

 

[Xeke]

Well if Brawl does it's job right the Wii should have a few more high weeks.

 

[Taurus]

Or since launch for that matter.

Harsh. :lol

 

[AnimeTheme]

http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/

First-day sales:

PS2 Luck Stars - 45k (60% sell-thru, 33k DX Pack, 12k normal version)

PSP WE08 - 35k (near sold-out)
PSP Yggdra Union - 11k (near sold-out, about the same first-day sales level as the original GBA game)

DS Exit - 1.5k

 

[Lightning]

I didn't predict Sony to kill 20/60GB SKUs. In other words, I don't think this 30-40k is the new stable level for PS3.

It depends, if Sony keeps that steady flow of games coming through then the PS3 should remain at a highish level. One of the problems last year was not only the price but the long waits between decent games. If Sony eliminate that, then they will be well on their way.

I don't think the general public care anywhere near as much as the internet hardcore do about BC. Because that's the only thing missing from the 40GB, those stupid slots are never used anyway. I have a 60GB and I have never used those slots and only ever used 2USB ports. BC is the only thing holding it back and I don't think it's anywhere near the big deal everyone wants to make it out to be. It negatively effects a few to be sure, but not a whole lot.

 

[Kenka]

http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/

First-day sales:

PS2 Luck Stars - 45k (60% sell-thru, 33k DX Pack, 12k normal version)

PSP WE08 - 35k (near sold-out)
PSP Yggdra Union - 11k (near sold-out, about the same first-day sales level as the original GBA game)

DS Exit - 1.5k

Came very early. Very disappointing for Exit

 

[Mr. Pointy]

http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/
PSP WE08 - 35k (near sold-out)
PSP Yggdra Union - 11k (near sold-out, about the same first-day sales level as the original GBA game)

Is it entirely possible that PSP owners in Japan are actually buying games for the system now? It'd be nice to have more than 5 PSP games appear in the top 50 regularly.

 

[AnimeTheme]

Is it entirely possible that PSP owners in Japan are actually buying games for the system now? It'd be nice to have more than 5 PSP games appear in the top 50 regularly.

Some facts:

- hardware growth rate of PSP (since PSP Slim launch) >> software growth rate (in terms of the number of titles released): Obviously most Japanese devs didn't expect PSP Slim to boost hardware sales that much.

- 55.8% of PSP users haven't played any game in the past 6 months (http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/NEWS/20080121/145788/): You can interpret this as either many people bought PSP for non-game features, OR there are simply not enough interesting games for them to choose. I think this has most to do with the second case, and there are definitely some potentials for the game devs out there to explore.

 

[Neo C.]

at one point I would have agreed, but I am not sure anymore.

I really don't see any japanese publisher or developer sympathetic to "next-gen". Some try low profile games on Wii, some risk with bigger projects on the PS3 but at the end the overall 3rd party enviroment in Japan for home consoles is gray and grim. If I was a Hardcore Japanese gamer, I'd own a DS and PSP and I am not sure I would have time left for more gaming out of the handhelds. I sometimes think that the advent of handhelds has gone so far, that it has hurt the home consoles irreversibly.

The home consoles might be risky for different publishers, but it's still better to bet on different horses than just the DS. Especially when a publisher's got franchises which are born in 3D and can't translated smoothly to 2D or simple 3D.

 

[justjohn]

i wonder how many of these ps3 sales come from people rushing to buy the last remaining 20gb and 60gb cos they've been forced to. i think like kurosaki said we still dont know the average weekly sales yet.

 

[jrricky]

Smash Bros is upon us............almost.

 

[DiddyBop]

modifying a psp slim is pretty complicated for the non hardcore,also the requirement of having a 2nd psp that already modified is even more limiting. psp users are just doin other things with the psp like music and movies. but it now seems that they are buying more games judging by the first day sales of that ydggra union game or however its spelt. sony must be pleased.

 

[Vinci]

As long as 3rd parties keep their heads firmly in their asses, 3rd party games on the Wii will continue to suffer lukewarm receptions. Given that most of them seem unaware of the problem despite it being fairly obvious to some of us, this trend is likely to continue for quite some time.

With that in mind, I'd say that the HD & Wii games will be separate as kurosawa predicts, but I think the HD gaming side will largely be carried by the 360 and not the PS3.

Hardware Leader: Wii
Software Leader: 360

In Japan?! You are insane.

I was speaking worldwide in that discussion. Apologies. Should've realized it would be misunderstood given this is a MC thread.

 

[CitizenCope]

Impressive for PS3 considering nothing worth mentioning came out last week or this week.

Blue-Ray!!

 

[Baron Doggystyle von Woof]

next week smash bros brawl prediction: 450.000

 

[xaosslug]

http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/

First-day sales:

PS2 Luck Stars - 45k (60% sell-thru, 33k DX Pack, 12k normal version)

PSP WE08 - 35k (near sold-out)
PSP Yggdra Union - 11k (near sold-out, about the same first-day sales level as the original GBA game)

DS Exit - 1.5k

come on software, you've got some major ground to make!

 

[apujanata]

Smash Bros is upon us............almost.

I predict that most J-Gaffers will disappear at least two days starting from SSBB release.

 

[Haunted]

I predict that most J-Gaffers will disappear at least two days starting from SSBB release.

Oh hell no. They'll never miss the chance to brag about it. :lol

 

[Vinnk]

I predict that most J-Gaffers will disappear at least two days starting from SSBB release.

Oh hell no. They'll never miss the chance to brag about it. :lol

You can expect me disappear from GAF during my free time and brag about it at work. :lol

 

[kurosawa]

:lol this is a true gaffer!

 

[Lobster]

Hey Lightning you still in for that week ban bet?

We can make it 2 weeks if you want.

 

[ethelred]

I'm really pleased with Yggdra Union's sales, pretty much selling out and matching what the GBA game did. What an awesome result for Sting. I hope it's bringing in some new fans for them so their next PSP game does even better. Yggdra Union 2, please.

 

[Sato Koiji]

Wiifit? *shakeshead*

wiifit? I....Im lost for words

 

[RBH]

DS Exit - 1.5k

Poor Exit.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

I'm really pleased with Yggdra Union's sales, pretty much selling out and matching what the GBA game did. What an awesome result for Sting. I hope it's bringing in some new fans for them so their next PSP game does even better. Yggdra Union 2, please.

Yeah, this is very good. Especially since a whole lot more went into remaking YU for PSP. Now Atlus just need to announce they're picking it up...

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

From sinobi's blog I found this bit of info that surprised me quite a lot.

Disgaea sold 135k, but the budget re-release sold 100k. Disgaea 2 sold 150k and the budget re-release only 15k.

First one budget release numbers must be the first time I see them, the other are well known though. sinobi says that the target for Disgaea 3 is 100k by the way...


edit: looks like MHP2G first shipment will be substantially lower than first said?

 

[Moor-Angol]

but it now seems that they are buying more games judging by the first day sales of that ydggra union game or however its spelt. sony must be pleased.

looking at WE2008 first day sales and, especially, considering it's near to be sold-out, i think even developers are a little disappointed about PSP sw sales...

 

[donny2112]

Disgaea sold 135k, but the budget re-release sold 100k.

This seems like another case of Famitsu going back and adjusting numbers. Disgaea 1 had sold 93K when it fell off the Top 30 in February 2003. It did not appear on the 2003 Top 100 which went down to 130920. It's possible it was #101 and was still selling some 10 months after it dropped off of the Top 30, though.

Disgaea (BEST) sold 17K by the time it dropped out of the Top 30 (~4K in its last week) after the third week of November 2004. We have the Top 500 for 2005, and it didn't show up. If it was #31 for all the remaining weeks of the year and #501 in 2005, it could've only gotten up to 89K. I find it quite unlikely that it got up to 100K without some backfitting going on.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

This seems like another case of Famitsu going back and adjusting numbers. Disgaea 1 had sold 93K when it fell off the Top 30 in February 2003. It did not appear on the 2003 Top 100 which went down to 130920. It's possible it was #101 and was still selling some 10 months after it dropped off of the Top 30, though.

Disgaea (BEST) sold 17K by the time it dropped out of the Top 30 (~4K in its last week) after the third week of November 2004. We have the Top 500 for 2005, and it didn't show up. If it was #31 for all the remaining weeks of the year and #501 in 2005, it could've only gotten up to 89K. I find it quite unlikely that it got up to 100K without some backfitting going on.

Yeah, the budget re-release number is so surprising that I think sinobi might be using some Nipponichi data shown a while ago. At least I remember something like that, although I can't seem to find it now.

YSO has Disgaea at 124,316, if like you say it isn't on the Top100, it must come from a monthly top or a special chart about N1 or something like that. Roughly matches 135k.

Disgaea 2 data matches though (YSO 150,428).

Now D2 The Best is impossible to have data from Famitsu. It didn't make it to Top30 in its first week and we didn't get Top500 for 2007 yet. Sinobi can't be using Famitsu here.

There must be some N1 figures I said above, and sinobi is merging them or something.

 

[donny2112]

Now D2 The Best is impossible to have data from Famitsu. It didn't make it to Top30 in its first week and we didn't get Top500 for 2007 yet. Sinobi can't be using Famitsu here.

It's possible it was on the July monthly Top 50. That month was replaced with the PC Top 20 on ELSPA's site, so we can't know for sure. It wasn't in the July PS2 Top 10, though.

 

[Lightning]

After playing the demo I will be very happy if DMC4 does over 100k launch week and well below DMC3 lifetime Japan numbers. That demo failed and I don't think will attract the Japanese to buy the game.

 

[Lobster]

After playing the demo I will be very happy if DMC4 does over 100k launch week and well below DMC3 lifetime Japan numbers. That demo failed and I don't think will attract the Japanese to buy the game.

I think it will 360+Ps3 combined. It might do higher.

360 version might have Ace Combat levels of sales.

 

[Lightning]

I think it will 360+Ps3 combined. It might do higher.

360 version might have Ace Combat levels of sales.

I don't think DMC4 has a hope in touching AC6 sales on the 360 but we'll see I guess. If PES08 and Musou 5 didn't get AC6 sales, I can't imagine DMC4 doing it.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

Yeah, this is very good. Especially since a whole lot more went into remaking YU for PSP. Now Atlus just need to announce they're picking it up...

that's not hrist

 

[apujanata]

You can expect me disappear from GAF during my free time and brag about it at work. :lol

Before you disappear, at least let us know that you have bought it, and whether there are lines / lots of interest in your town. And don't forget to post at least once a day in M-create thread, saying things like "Wow" "Unbelievable" "OMG".

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Famitsu numbers
Wii　79000
DSL　74000
PSP　61000
PS3　29000
PS2　11000
360　4200

1.[WII] Wii Fit　96000（1209000）
2.[PSP] Winning Eleven UE2008　70000
3.[PS2] Lucky Star　61000
4.[NDS] Mario & Sonic DS　54000（145000）
5.[WII] Wii Sports　28000（2692000）
6.[NDS] Mario Party DS　26000（1557000）
7.[PSP] Yggdra Union　22000
8.[NDS] Doraemon Baseball　22000（141000）
9.[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2　15000（1584000）
10.[WII] Wii Play　14000（2153000）

Other new games
14.Tennis no Oujisama: Driving Smash! Side King DS　12000
...Exit DS　5500
...Drift Nights: Juiced 2 PS3　5000
...The Sims 2 Castaway DS　3000
...TOCA　750

Other games
11.Mario & Sonic Wii　13000（488000）
12.Mario Kart DS　13000（2809000）
13.Layton 2　???（727000）
15.Mario Party 8　9400（1163000）
16.Super Mario Galaxy　9100（853000）
17.Ryu ga Gotoku 2 (The Best!)　8500（111000）
18.Layton 1　8500（821000）
19.Dragon Quest IV　8000（1158000）
20.Minna no Golf Portable 2　8000（210000）
21.Power Pocket Pro Kun 10 DS　7900（223000）
22.Animal Crossing DS　7700（4572000）
24.New Super Mario Bros　7500（5069000）
25.Household Diary　7100（410000）
26.Winning Eleven 2008 PS2　7100（612000）
27.Call Of Duty 4 PS3　7100（65000）
28.Final Fantasy IV　6300（565000）
29.Flash Focus　6100（772000）
30.More Brain Training　5900（4829000）

 

[cvxfreak]

Wii > DS

It has begun. Smash Bros. X will only push the Wii ahead again.

 

[Jonnyram]

Famitsu numbers
Wii　79000
DSL　74000

Looks like it's all over for DS.

 

[Defuser]

How did WE 2007 PSP did last year?

 

[Frillen]

What systems are lucky star, Yggdra Union and Doraemon Baseball for?

 

[Kenka]

Impressive. Most impressive numbers for Wii. No SMG nor M&S Wii saddens me though

 

[cvxfreak]

Looks like it's all over for DS.

I personally don't think the DS has much time to stay above the Wii consistently each week anymore. The handheld's sold over 20 Million, while the Wii has yet to hit its peek. I think at best we'll see the two switch off, or the Wii stay ahead.

 

[Shiggy]

DS = fad

 

[Jonnyram]

I personally don't think the DS has much time to stay above the Wii consistently each week anymore. The handheld's sold over 20 Million, while the Wii has yet to hit its peek. I think at best we'll see the two switch off, or the Wii stay ahead.

Just wait until the new DS revision!

 

[botticus]

What systems are lucky star, Yggdra Union and Doraemon Baseball for?

PS2, PSP, and DS, I believe. (Edited as I see they're noted above)

PSP will finally have some representative software sales this week.