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Media Create Sales 5/28 - 6/3

VOOK

We don't know why he keeps buying PAL, either.
Eteric Rice said:
Well, it does kind of scream, "USE IT AGAINST ME!"

:|

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Busaiku

Member
donny2112 said:
Famitsu May 21-27
13. WII Super Paper Mario 17278 / 396145
19. WII Gentle Brain Training Wii 14630 / 156154
At the rates they're going, they may be able to reach about 500k+ and maybe 300k, which is not bad at all.
 

Ketchup Boy

Junior Member
It's disgusting seeing how much market Nintendo is controlling. I mean I wanted them to become the market leader, but not control nearly the whole dang pie, just like maybe 40% of the pie. I feel the need to purchase a PS3 thinking it'll do something even though I know it won't.
 
Having the top 30 separated fromt he next 20 by partial totals for how many games sold on each system is a bit of an eyesore. Unless that's being changed right now.
 
Earthstrike said:
Having the top 30 separated fromt he next 20 by partial totals for how many games sold on each system is a bit of an eyesore. Unless that's being changed right now.

Yeah, I typically just overwrite the top 30 tallies. =P Thanks for keeping the OP updated this week.
 
Ketchup Boy said:
It's disgusting seeing how much market Nintendo is controlling. I mean I wanted them to become the market leader, but not control nearly the whole dang pie, just like maybe 40% of the pie. I feel the need to purchase a PS3 thinking it'll do something even though I know it won't.

That's the way the Japanese market (and to a lesser extent, the rest of the world) works. Once you've decided on a winner, might as well go full steam behind it.
 

Eteric Rice

Member
Pureauthor said:
That's the way the Japanese market (and to a lesser extent, the rest of the world) works. Once you've decided on a winner, might as well go full steam behind it.

I wish they'd hurry up. :) I can only be so excited before my hype starts to slow down.

Needs new announcements stat!
 
Cheesemeister said:
Just got back from seeing Blue Man Group. :D]

Lucky! I was in Orlando just a few days ago and I was so dissapointed that the Blue Man group would be there the NEXT week. :(

I wanted to see them so bad....
 

Vinnk

Member
The Sphinx said:
Comments on the report:That's very interesting. Were they so positive about it before the PS3 began to tank? I'm wondering if the failure of the Sony's system provides some motivation for the Japanese hardcore to take a harder look at the competition. It undeniably has a good lineup of games. This is the first positive news I've heard about the 360 in Japan in a long time.

I think it really started at TGS. Microsoft had a great showing. Blue Dragon looked great. The PS3 titles at the show were mostly not very impressive (other than DMC and MGS and some trailers) and a lot of the enthusiasm Sony had been building for the system was starting to dwindle. The hardcore where starting to look at their options.

But as I said the hardcore is a very small fraction of the game buying public. Many PS2 owners I know only bought it for 2 or 3 games (and a few just for the DVD player). It was (and still is) a hardcore system but most of the buyers would not call themselves active gamers. However.. EVERY person who buys a 360 is a gamer. There is no way in hell a casual gamer would buy this machine. Thus the attach rates are very high and 360 software hits the top 30 while PS3 (even with it's larger base) doesn’t as often.


A Link to the Snitch said:
Hey, Vinnk, if I say that your future wife's a lucky gal, will you check out the stock of the PW games? :)

And then buy me some? :D

All PW games are available and in good supply. Occasionally PW2 will sell out, but it is replaced fairly quickly.

As for buying games, if any of you want to buy PW3 or something, send me a PM, I am already sending 3 to the states, what’s a few more. And I buy from the shops, so it will be counted in MC.
 
perfectchaos007 said:
Lucky! I was in Orlando just a few days ago and I was so dissapointed that the Blue Man group would be there the NEXT week. :(

I wanted to see them so bad....

They'd just added a few "preview shows" starting June 1st. If you were here after that, well...
 

PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
This Week Sales:

mc-sales-070528.jpg


Since 11/27/07:
27 Total Weeks of Next Gen sales.
21 Total Weeks of post-holiday sales.

360 - Established Trend: 2-4k. Next Gen Avg = 7,134. Post Holiday Avg = 3,986.
Wii - Mid-cycle: 54-76k. Next Gen Avg = 96,480. Post Holiday Avg = 70,952.
PS3 - Established Trend: 8-10k. Next Gen Avg = 33,731. Post Holiday Avg = 18,249.

mc-weekly-27.jpg


mc-LTDs-27.jpg


Results, Analysis, & Expectations
● The 360's sales are insignificant. 2k-4k per week for the foreseeable future.

● The PS3's sales are insignificant. 6-11k per week for the foreseeable future.

● The Wii's sales are top-cycle. Trends show that this week or next week is the peak of the cycle. 65-75k is a realistic expectation for next week. Should hover between 50k-80k for the summer.


Expectations for 06/04 - 06/11
360 - 2.5k*
Wii - 73k*
PS3 - 9k*

* = within 5k estimation success the previous week.

This Week's Market Share:

mc-marketshare-070528.jpg


LTD Market Share Week-to-Week

Code:
Date____               360             Wii             PS3
11/27-12/03:            25%             49%             26%
12/04-12/10:            24%             49%             27%
12/11-12/17:            21%             50%             29%
12/18-12/24:            17%             57%             26%
12/25-12/31:            16%             56%             28%
01/01-01/07:            15%             58%             27%
01/08-01/14:            14%             59%             27%
01/15-01/21:            14%             60%             26%
01/22-01/28:            13%             60%             26%
01/29-02/04:            13%             61%             26%
02/05-02/11:            13%             61%             26%
02/12-02/18:            13%             62%             26%
02/19-02/25:            12%             62%             25%
03/26-03/04:            12%             62%             26%
03/05-03/11:            12%             62%             26%
03/12-03/18:            11%             62%             26%
03/19-03/25:            11%             63%             26%
03/26-04/01:            11%             63%             26%
04/02-04/08:            11%             63%             26%
04/09-04/15:            11%             64%             26%
04/16-04/22:            10%             64%             25%
04/23-04/29:            10%             65%             25%
04/30-05/06:            10%             66%             24%
05/07-05/13:            10%             66%             24%
05/14-05/20:            10%             66%             24%
05/21-05/27:            10%             67%             24%
05/28-06/03:            09%             67%             23%

Significant Notes:
● The Wii has extended its lead to 1,694,226 over the PS3.
● 80.9k units sold this week. (The highest since golden week) Wii had 86.1% of all console sales.
● The Wii hit 2.6 million units.
● The Wii officially has two-thirds (67%) market share.
● The PS3 has sold less than 25k for 14 weeks in a row.
● 360 in single-digit market share.
 
PantherLotus said:
● The Wii officially has two-thirds (67%) market share after next week.

It's already happened.

WII = 2,604,944
PS3 = 910,737
360 = 366,646

(910,737 + 366,646) * 2 < 2,604,944
2,554,766 < 2,604,944

Alternatively...

Total consoles = 2,604,944 + 910,737 + 366,646 = 3,882,327

Wii marketshare = 2,604,944 / 3,882,327 = 0.67097490757476121923784369528893
 

PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
Cheesemeister said:
It's already happened.

WII = 2,604,944
PS3 = 910,737
360 = 366,646

(910,737 + 366,646) * 2 < 2,604,944
2,554,766 < 2,604,944

Alternatively...

Total consoles = 2,604,944 + 910,737 + 366,646 = 3,882,327

Wii marketshare = 2,604,944 / 3,882,327 = 0.67097490757476121923784369528893

All that being said, I already knew that. :( I forgot to edit out the "next week" part from last week's post. Thanks for the catch anyway.
 

Terrell

Member
Jeez, Wii sales to PS3 sales are over 8:1?! And people are still going on about how this generation hasn't been decided?!
 

Sharp

Member
Terrell said:
Jeez, Wii sales to PS3 sales are over 8:1?! And people are still going on about how this generation hasn't been decided?!
Well, historically Japan has not decided the fate of the console wars.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Sharp said:
Well, historically Japan has not decided the fate of the console wars.
Every console that has won in japan has won worldwide.
 
Terrell said:
Jeez, Wii sales to PS3 sales are over 8:1?! And people are still going on about how this generation hasn't been decided?!

Well, see, once the games hit on PS3, combined with a price drop and a higher adoption rate of HDTVs, the situation could flip.

*snicker*
 

Terrell

Member
GaimeGuy said:
Every console that has won in japan has won worldwide.
Yeah, and before we get into it, folks, Super Nintendo DID beat Genesis worldwide, but it was close... and it was the only closely-competitive generation this industry has (and likely will) ever see.
 

Innotech

Banned
FlightOfHeaven said:
Well, see, once the games hit on PS3, combined with a price drop and a higher adoption rate of HDTVs, the situation could flip.

*snicker*

Ps3 catches up by 2011 confirmed.
 
Terrell said:
Yeah, and before we get into it, folks, Super Nintendo DID beat Genesis worldwide, but it was close... and it was the only closely-competitive generation this industry has (and likely will) ever see.

SNES vs Genesis wasn't close worldwide, only in the US. ~50M vs ~30M WW.
 
Terrell said:
Yeah, and before we get into it, folks, Super Nintendo DID beat Genesis worldwide, but it was close... and it was the only closely-competitive generation this industry has (and likely will) ever see.


I miss cool names for SEGA systems :(
 

Terrell

Member
AdmiralViscen said:
SNES vs Genesis wasn't close worldwide, only in the US. ~50M vs ~30M WW.
No, it was pretty close in Europe, too, from what I remember seeing, Japan put SNES over the hump. But whatever, the whole point was the stop the delusionals from starting that eternal debate over who actually "won" all over again. We can at least agree who won, though.
 

Innotech

Banned
Terrell said:
Yeah, and before we get into it, folks, Super Nintendo DID beat Genesis worldwide, but it was close... and it was the only closely-competitive generation this industry has (and likely will) ever see.
yes but also Nintendo and Sega were roughly equally good developers. Nintendo always made a lot more money though with smarter hardware choices and better financial responsibility. but Sega was usually more creative and honestly outdid Nintendo in many genres. That really was a golden age of gaming and at least the two players are still making games. I would have loved to see Sega stay in the console race and continue duking it out today.
 

Sharp

Member
Oh, I dunno, guys. I don't think we can just judge the situation based on historical precedent here. After all, Virtua Fighter 5.
 
Terrell said:
No, it was pretty close in Europe, too, from what I remember seeing, Japan put SNES over the hump. But whatever, the whole point was the stop the delusionals from starting that eternal debate over who actually "won" all over again. We can at least agree who won, though.

The SNES sold, what, 15 million in Japan? It didn't sell 20 million, only the PlayStations and DS have/will achieve that. Genesis/MD must have sold 2-3 million there, so at least 5-10 million of SNES' 20M lead came from US and EU.
 

Terrell

Member
Sharp said:
Oh, I dunno, guys. I don't think we can just judge the situation based on historical precedent here. After all, Virtua Fighter 5.
Ummm... didn't only ONE Virtua Fighter game ever break a million in Japan? And wasn't it chronically outsold by Tekken in the States? If we're trying to poo-poo on historical precedent, that is not the example to use.
 
Terrell said:
Ummm... didn't only ONE Virtua Fighter game ever break a million in Japan? And wasn't it chronically outsold by Tekken in the States? If we're trying to poo-poo on historical precedent, that is not the example to use.

2 and 4 both did, I think.
 
Terrell said:
Ummm... didn't only ONE Virtua Fighter game ever break a million in Japan? And wasn't it chronically outsold by Tekken in the States? If we're trying to poo-poo on historical precedent, that is not the example to use.

Virtua Fighter 5 is set to save the PS3.
 

Terrell

Member
TheGreatDave said:
Virtua Fighter 5 is set to save the PS3.
How, are they going to pile up the unsold copies of the game to break the PS3's fall when it finally finishes plummetting on sales charts?
 
Innotech said:
yes but also Nintendo and Sega were roughly equally good developers. Nintendo always made a lot more money though with smarter hardware choices and better financial responsibility. but Sega was usually more creative and honestly outdid Nintendo in many genres. That really was a golden age of gaming and at least the two players are still making games. I would have loved to see Sega stay in the console race and continue duking it out today.

Um... no. Sega has never been anywhere near Nintendo as a developer, not even in their "glory" days. In what ways exactly was Sega more "creative" than Nintendo? The only genres Sega "outdid" Nintendo in were the ones that Nintendo traditionally never touches, such as sports and RPGs.
 
phez said:
sales will reach a point exceeding the population of japan?
Heh. I keep track of when DS will catch up to PS2, but I think this one would be a bit further out.
Ketchup said:
It's disgusting seeing how much market Nintendo is controlling. I mean I wanted them to become the market leader, but not control nearly the whole dang pie, just like maybe 40% of the pie.
If 40% was enough to be market leader, were you expecting X360 to get more than 20%?
AdmiralViscen said:
How long did PS2 shortages exist in Japan, after launch?
I'm not sure if it was constantly in shortage or if it was readily available for a short while before stock ran low due to international launch preparation, but you can see that according to Famitsu it was on a near-constant downward slope from week 19 through week 40, and shortly thereafter started staying regularly around 50K.
 

ethelred

Member
miguel_c_hammer said:
Um... no. Sega has never been anywhere near Nintendo as a developer, not even in their "glory" days.

Sega's never been anywhere near Nintendo as a developer? That's a laugh, sorry.

miguel_c_hammer said:
In what ways exactly was Sega more "creative" than Nintendo? The only genres Sega "outdid" Nintendo in were the ones that Nintendo traditionally never touches, such as sports and RPGs.

Platformers, action, adventure, arcade, music/rhythm, shooters...
 
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