thestopsign
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Seems we'll have all over 10,000 this week. It's just depressing looking at a Top 10 with one or more games under 10,000, so this is a nice change of pace.
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Media Create Sales: June 15-21, 2009
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jeremy1456
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18k is not bad for Rorona. Is performing on par with Arc Rise Fantasia. Nice.
Holy shit, lots of new releases.
Holy shit, lots of new releases.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
bttb said:
How were the first-day sales of Wii Fit?
EDIT: Answered in the previous page, it seems.
Allan Holdsworth
Member
bttb said:
If this were for Wii, we would be getting hundreds of post on how the Wii can't sell third-party software. (see: ARF)
Grampa Simpson
Banned
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps3/releases.html?limiter=2jeremy1456 said:
Yes it's gamefaqs, but it's a fairly useful list.
Is Trinity Universe another Disgaea thing, or is it just shared characters?
Hero of Legend
Member
Allan Holdsworth said:
Would you blame them? That's I think... 1/4 of ARF 1st day! :O
MarzipaNMOS
Member
Allan Holdsworth said:
There is a Wii release coming out pretty soon, isn't there?
Seems MMV can't catch a break lately.
Hero of Legend
Member
kiruyama said:
Yeah, Eldar Saga. It even has Online Co-op! :O
Hero of Legend
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Hero of Legend
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Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Grampasso said:
OT:
Nice post.
I'm not bitter at them because I knew from the start that if I wanted a big pot of "edgy" (lol) games to choose from I would've had to buy an X360/PC/PS3 to go with it, and I did. So I'm still pretty happy with the Wii, more than ever with M+ attached to the new games.
I see M+ as a way to make motion controls feel less tackled on in core games, and I'm as much excited as the prospect of a cool Red Steel 2 as I am for Modern Warfare 2 on 360 (even more so).
IT:
What I see is that Nintendo has done such an horrible job at conveying what M+ actually is and why do we actually need it, hopefully they'll rectify that now that Resorts is out because, man, hearing some GS's clerks talkin' about it was freakin' hilarious "yeah, it's just an amp of sorts to play the Wii from farther", and even here in Gaf there's a lot of ignorance on the matter/most people don't care.
/inchino
Hero of Legend
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If anyone's interested, I just uploaded every screenshot of Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga, plus a couple of wallpapers, art, and the English logo.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31607198@N05/sets/72157620439509973/
BTW, Motoi Sakuraba is doing the soundtrack of this, and Battle Stance.
ARF did about the same 1st day, but don't forget, MMV said that budgets were low, and Wii development is cheap anyway for most (Fragile actually cost a pretty penny didn't it?), and I'd imagine Rorona having costed Gust a LOT more.
We'll see which sells more in the long run. Seems that these two have a rivalry don't they?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31607198@N05/sets/72157620439509973/
BTW, Motoi Sakuraba is doing the soundtrack of this, and Battle Stance.
Linkup said:
ARF did about the same 1st day, but don't forget, MMV said that budgets were low, and Wii development is cheap anyway for most (Fragile actually cost a pretty penny didn't it?), and I'd imagine Rorona having costed Gust a LOT more.
We'll see which sells more in the long run. Seems that these two have a rivalry don't they?
Well, NOJ should be happy with those WSR numbers. I didn't think it would 'flop,' but after the past few months it's hard to feel all that positively about consoles in Japan.
Anyway, 300k-ish seems like a lock for the week, with a continued slow burn for some time afterwards. Will be interesting to see if it causes a hardware spike. I'm guessing it'll be in the mid-30ks, but who knows?
Assuming WSR stays high on the charts through July, Wii should be in a good spot for some time, what with MH3 (and the black Wii) coming in August. And then there's Wii Fit Plus and NSMB Wii...
When are Tales of Graces and Samurai Warriors 3 supposed to hit store shelves, anyway?
Anyway, 300k-ish seems like a lock for the week, with a continued slow burn for some time afterwards. Will be interesting to see if it causes a hardware spike. I'm guessing it'll be in the mid-30ks, but who knows?
Assuming WSR stays high on the charts through July, Wii should be in a good spot for some time, what with MH3 (and the black Wii) coming in August. And then there's Wii Fit Plus and NSMB Wii...
When are Tales of Graces and Samurai Warriors 3 supposed to hit store shelves, anyway?
Hero of Legend
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Jonnyram said:
Doesn't help it's like 3:00AM over here. :lol
Thanks.
Allan Holdsworth said:
You should know your games before trying to argument something.
It's a repackaged Valhalla Knights 2 with some extras. A looow budget psp game released one year ago that doesn't even come close to the likes of Fragile or ARF.
It's positioned as an overpriced best version of VK2
That game sold 90k, not great but certainly much more than any of their Wii games
bmf said:
It's doing a bit better
18+3.9 = 22k
Grampa Simpson
Banned
(150000/2)*5 is much easier.Jonnyram said:
Pureauthor
Member
This is the most important number from the data we got, and anyone who says otherwise is WRONG.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
I don't know, seems like they're trying really hard.Eteric Rice said:
Nintendo: *whispers* Hey everyone, you should make some big Wii games.
*crickets*
Nintendo: Well, more cake for me.
I think it did turn out about as well as they could've hoped in Japan, but the decision to leave it there is pretty weird.bmf said:
However, in a world where DS was the comeback console after a disappointingly-low-selling GBA, perhaps PSP was the one getting Final Fantasy III announcements before launch, and the entire Ace Attorney series.Eteric Rice said:
I would also suggest there's just some randomness to it, and that not all trackers agree on what it's doing. Whereas Media Create had it bottoming out in April at 13K and doing better since, Famitsu never had it that low in April but saw 13K weeks in May and June.schuelma said:
I don't have the numbers, but we don't have much room for standard comparison, either. 2 of the Wii titles were launch games. One was a December release. That leaves Wii Music.d[-_- said:
Grampa Simpson
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Hrm. Some recent discussions had me under the impression that it had some pretty hefty bugs that the developer wasn't willing to work out. Sounds like a contract dispute or something to me which would explain a buggy release in japan followed by a lack of foreign localization.JoshuaJSlone said:
Pureauthor
Member
bmf said:
Perhaps, but in terms of sales I recall it did better than prior Fatal Frames.
I don't want to know, do I.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
bttb said:
Uhm, doesn't seem the time travel machine worked perfectly, seems to have one or two slightly different outcomes that would indicate some deviation in its space-time module that ventured it into a parallel universe. Nothing too big on the other hand, seems good enough for cheating predictions purposes.Kurosaki Ichigo said:
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Based on the latest Famitsu hardware numbers...
PSP comparisons: After 236 weeks, PSP is where PS2 was at 190.1 weeks (October 19, 2003), where DS was at 102.0 weeks (November 12, 2006), and where GBA was at 159.4 weeks (April 7, 2004).
X360 comparisons: After 184 weeks, X360 is where GCN was at 17.1 weeks (January 7, 2002), where PS3 was at 38.3 weeks (July 31, 2007), and where Wii was at 5.5 weeks (January 4, 2007).
PS3 comparisons: After 136 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 45.6 weeks (January 11, 2001), where PSP was at 68.6 weeks (March 31, 2006), where GCN was at 125.6 weeks (February 2, 2004), and where Wii was at 35.6 weeks (August 2, 2007).
Wii comparisons: After 133 weeks, Wii is where GBA was at 99.0 weeks (February 9, 2003), where DS was at 77.1 weeks (May 22, 2006), where PS2 was at 116.3 weeks (May 21, 2002), and where PSP was at 167.4 weeks (February 20, 2008).
DSi comparisons: After 33 weeks, DSi is where GBASP was at 46.6 weeks (January 1, 2004) and where DSL was at 16.6 weeks (June 22, 2006).
Based on the latest Media Create hardware numbers...
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 62.3 / 37.7 bring total shares to 68.3 / 31.7. If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 512.8 weeks (April 20, 2019).
X360 vs PS3: Weekly shares of 39.4 / 60.6 bring total shares to 24.8 / 75.2. If PS3 stopped selling and X360 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 319.0 weeks (August 2, 2015).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 34.8 / 65.2 bring total shares to 28.4 / 71.6. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 470.9 weeks (July 1, 2018).
Week over week, everything is slightly up except X360, which is slightly down.
Through the first twenty-five weeks of the year, overall sales are down. However, the systems can be split into camps of 3 up and 3 down. Here's how the year-to-date year-over-year percents stand as of now.
Wii: -63.6%
DSL+DSi: +2.9%
PS2: -49.6%
PS3: +8.5%
PSP: -45.4%
X360: +232.1%
Home hardware: -38.9%
Portable hardware: -24.6%
Sum of all hardware: -30.4%
Last year:
This year:
PSP comparisons: After 236 weeks, PSP is where PS2 was at 190.1 weeks (October 19, 2003), where DS was at 102.0 weeks (November 12, 2006), and where GBA was at 159.4 weeks (April 7, 2004).
X360 comparisons: After 184 weeks, X360 is where GCN was at 17.1 weeks (January 7, 2002), where PS3 was at 38.3 weeks (July 31, 2007), and where Wii was at 5.5 weeks (January 4, 2007).
PS3 comparisons: After 136 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 45.6 weeks (January 11, 2001), where PSP was at 68.6 weeks (March 31, 2006), where GCN was at 125.6 weeks (February 2, 2004), and where Wii was at 35.6 weeks (August 2, 2007).
Wii comparisons: After 133 weeks, Wii is where GBA was at 99.0 weeks (February 9, 2003), where DS was at 77.1 weeks (May 22, 2006), where PS2 was at 116.3 weeks (May 21, 2002), and where PSP was at 167.4 weeks (February 20, 2008).
DSi comparisons: After 33 weeks, DSi is where GBASP was at 46.6 weeks (January 1, 2004) and where DSL was at 16.6 weeks (June 22, 2006).
Based on the latest Media Create hardware numbers...
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 62.3 / 37.7 bring total shares to 68.3 / 31.7. If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 512.8 weeks (April 20, 2019).
X360 vs PS3: Weekly shares of 39.4 / 60.6 bring total shares to 24.8 / 75.2. If PS3 stopped selling and X360 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 319.0 weeks (August 2, 2015).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 34.8 / 65.2 bring total shares to 28.4 / 71.6. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 470.9 weeks (July 1, 2018).
Week over week, everything is slightly up except X360, which is slightly down.
Through the first twenty-five weeks of the year, overall sales are down. However, the systems can be split into camps of 3 up and 3 down. Here's how the year-to-date year-over-year percents stand as of now.
Wii: -63.6%
DSL+DSi: +2.9%
PS2: -49.6%
PS3: +8.5%
PSP: -45.4%
X360: +232.1%
Home hardware: -38.9%
Portable hardware: -24.6%
Sum of all hardware: -30.4%
Last year:
This year:
22k, slightly more than I expected for first day. Also seems well in line with the shipments. For comparison, the most recent console Atelier title did 24k first week on PS2, and the most recent Atelier game in general (on DS) did 15k first week.bttb said:
Why? The assets seem to have about PS2 level of detail, just smoother (more polys) and rendered at a lot higher image quality. But that doesn't cost money. Really, one would have to look at all the relative amount of content of both games but I wouldn't be surprised if ARF cost at least as much (little?) to make. Also, I imagine that Gust will get a lot of reuse out of this engine.Hero of Legend said:
test_account said:I think it might be a possibility that MGS5 will come this gen, since Microsoft brough Kojima on the stage at this year's E3 announcing that MGS5 were comming to the Xbox 360. But if i should guess, MGS5 will probably not be out before in maybe 2-3 years or so though, so i guess there can be a chance that MGS5 wont come out in this generation as you say, even if it is announced for this generation's consoles (the PS3 and the Xbox 360)
EDIT: I added some text.
MGS5 is peacewalker ...
test_account
XP-39C²
Wow, that is alot of games. Any reason why so many games got released at the same day?bttb said:
I like the name of that DS game "Really? Really! DS (Kadokawa Shoten)" hehe
I dont know if any numbers were given on how much it cost to make Fragile, but ye, they said that Fragile had a high budget and that it took about 2 years to make that game if i remember correctly. "High budget" can be relative though, i am not sure if they compare the budget to what other Wii games usually cost to develope, or if they compare it to what a high budget PS3 and/or Xbox 360 game can cost to develope.Hero of Legend said:
Ye, i think that Peacewalker for the PSP is a direct sequel in the main MGS story (set after MGS3 if i remember correctly), so in this way i guess that MGS Peacewalker can be described at MGS5 indeed as you say, but will it be called MGS5 officialy? Do we know if MGS Rising will be a sequel in the main MGS story, or will it be more of a spinoff? But i was thinkin of MGS Rising when i said MGS5lherre said:
JoshuaJSlone
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I'm not a big follower of the series, but isn't Portable Ops already a followup to MGS3 that plays like a traditional MGS? Is there a reason Peacewalker is more of a big deal, other than that now there's no Snake-starring console title in sight?test_account said:
test_account
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I am not really a big follower of the series myself, so i dont know, sorry :\ Besides Metal Gear: Snake's Revenge for the NES and Metal Gear Online for the PS3, i havnt really played much of the other Metal Gear games.JoshuaJSlone said:
I bought MGS4 the same day it come out for sale where i live, but that was mainly because i wanted to play Metal Gear Online. I have played Metal Gear Online for maybe 190 hours or so, but i have only played the main MGS4 game for maybe 15 minutes or so, since i havnt played the previous MGS games that much, and i didnt want to start with MGS4
If i remember correctly, i think it was said that Peacewalker is set about 10 years after the story in MGS3, and that it is more of a direct sequel in the main MGS storyline rather than a spinoff. And i think that Kojima himself is also working closely with PeacewalkerJoshuaJSlone said:
Maybe Portable Ops are set a few years after the MGS3 story as well?test_account said:Ye, i think that Peacewalker for the PSP is a direct sequel in the main MGS story (set after MGS3 if i remember correctly), so in this way i guess that MGS Peacewalker can be described at MGS5 indeed as you say, but will it be called MGS5 officialy? Do we know if MGS Rising will be a sequel in the main MGS story, or will it be more of a spinoff? But i was thinkin of MGS Rising when i said MGS5
Well, according to Kojima, he is only director of Peacewallker and he says in the Sony's E3 conference that Peacewalker is the "true sequel". Besides if I remember correctly, in the peacewalker trailer is shown a "5" in the beginning.
Simply, because Kojima says it is. It's him and his MGS4 team working on the game, while we're assuming Murata and the ZoE/Boktai team are on Rising.JoshuaJSlone said:
It also appears that 4 player co-op will play a big role in the game judging from the trailer. Put that together with PSP and, well, you know.
Edit: Beaten.