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yeah I forgot about the skyward swordu flop. Also was DQ7 remake confirmed?
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Media Create Sales: Week 1, 2012 (Jan 02 - Jan 08)
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I can see the 3DS Smash Bros. being a million-seller too.
Console Zelda you mean. handheld Zelda is just fine.
If the almost 500k of OoT3D have shown us something, it's that there's demand for Zelda...just not on Wii, it seems
slaughterking
Member
Around 400k. And here the Mario & Luigi games for comparison.
I would say Paper Mario 3DS could sell more than the N64 and NGC games, just because it is on a much healthier platform and the Mario brand regained quite a bit of popularity over the past generation.
I think had they combined the 3rd person combat with the flight (as in, I could jump and take flight anytime I want) it would be pretty awesome and ground breaking.
Dead Phoenix from Capcom? Anyone remember that video?
Anyways KI is one of my most wanted. Call me a Sakurai fan. I think the online multiplayer could be really addictive.
If the almost 500k of OoT3D have shown us something, it's that there's demand for Zelda...just not on Wii, it seems
yea but it's not gonna be a system seller thats for sure.
it's a matter of time now.
forgot all about it, yes this is gonna be a big one.
AceBandage
Banned
So a 500K seller isn't impossible.
That should push some systems at least.
Of course.
Interesting concept for a game.
Add it to the list of future million sellers I guess. The DS saw many million sellers at a point in its life. 3DS is probably already at this point, thanks to the big 3.
But someone will probably post you the LTD for Mario & Luigi for more concrete numbers!
Edit: of course beaten; wow pretty low numbers
Best news about these 3DS sales: it pretty much guarantees increased japanese 3rd parties support. Nintendo cut the price first and foremost to build a platform with a sufficient userbase to carry an ecosystem. Now we can expect a constant flow of games for the next 2 years. In that case, early success secures future success.
I don't know anything about the Kid Icarus lore since I've only heard bad things about the original titles, but just from the aesthetic I felt Uprising should've been more akin to Gravity Daze, with a large focus on flight (with that said GD is going to sell a lot less than KI does simply due to hardware bases, and who's releasing these games). It should've been an action adventure title in the skies, but instead it's a more ambitious rail shooter.
Edit: These threads seriously have just become Nintendo-central now. It'll be curious to see how many stick around when (more like if at this stage) the competition decides to take its head out of the ground.
AceBandage
Banned
Well, that was Iwata's entire plan, yes.
He said at the retail meeting that Holiday sales influence what games are started for the next year.
Hopefully it's a lot of good and niche stuff like the DS had.
And more EBA!
The rail shooter element is only in flight, which I believe is the shorter end of its whole. People actually really love this aspect, because it works really well.
The problem people have are the action adventure aspect on the ground, where the controls really hurt it.
One of the things I noticed so far is that it seems Nintendo is a bit Sony-fying some of its offers.
Let me explain a bit.
Let's pick Fire Emblem: for this new episode, called "Rebirth", we have still the 2D map, but then we have a 3D combat scene, with good animations...AND portions of portaits of the characters involved when they attack. Isn't this something we see SO much in all the Super Robot Taisen games? Or in the SD Gundam ones?
Another example: Kid Icarus.
Its blue skies, its costant flow of quick action...and after all the multiplayer content, which IMHO resembles a LOT Gundam Extreme Vs. mechanics.
Going with a bit of stretch, I'd say even Mario 3D Land could be a part of this process, since there's something that reminds me of Crash in that game...but, as said earlier, it's absolutely like the other two.
So, it seems they're a bit adapting some of their games to be considered by more, indeed...but not only by more audience in general, but by more "Sony" audience, with touches that remind to games that characterized Sony consoles in the past (and which still characterize them).
It could be a way to attract that PSP / PS3 / PS2 audience, as well as to attract the Sonyesque audience already on the platform for better sales.
What do you think about it?
Let me explain a bit.
Let's pick Fire Emblem: for this new episode, called "Rebirth", we have still the 2D map, but then we have a 3D combat scene, with good animations...AND portions of portaits of the characters involved when they attack. Isn't this something we see SO much in all the Super Robot Taisen games? Or in the SD Gundam ones?
Another example: Kid Icarus.
Its blue skies, its costant flow of quick action...and after all the multiplayer content, which IMHO resembles a LOT Gundam Extreme Vs. mechanics.
Going with a bit of stretch, I'd say even Mario 3D Land could be a part of this process, since there's something that reminds me of Crash in that game...but, as said earlier, it's absolutely like the other two.
So, it seems they're a bit adapting some of their games to be considered by more, indeed...but not only by more audience in general, but by more "Sony" audience, with touches that remind to games that characterized Sony consoles in the past (and which still characterize them).
It could be a way to attract that PSP / PS3 / PS2 audience, as well as to attract the Sonyesque audience already on the platform for better sales.
What do you think about it?
Welcome to golden age of Media Create threads (again). Everyone wanted it back and now we have it...
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Are the FFXIII-2 lower than usual because A: FFXIII only pissed off the hardcore fans, not the casual ones who buy games after launch. B: The Holidays. C: Positive word of mouth. D: Drops couldn't be as much because of the low starting point or E: None of these are correct and I should study sales better?
You and Spiegel seem to have been really disappointed with Sony recently. Not sure what they really could have done other than spend a lot of money their investors probably wouldn't want them to spend considering the recent losses (recent as in the last five years) of Playstation
You and Spiegel seem to have been really disappointed with Sony recently. Not sure what they really could have done other than spend a lot of money their investors probably wouldn't want them to spend considering the recent losses (recent as in the last five years) of Playstation
Famitsu:
2005 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 669,575 / 669,575
2006 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 1,115,082 / 1,784,657
2007 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 910,771 / 2,695,428
2008 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 621,890 / 3,317,318
2009 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 246,192 / 3,563,510
2010 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 145,761 / 3,709,271
2011 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 185,452 / 3,894,723
2005 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 669,575 / 669,575
2006 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 1,115,082 / 1,784,657
2007 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 910,771 / 2,695,428
2008 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 621,890 / 3,317,318
2009 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 246,192 / 3,563,510
2010 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 145,761 / 3,709,271
2011 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 185,452 / 3,894,723
electroplankton
Banned
I think there's the chance of Mario Kart 7 reaching the 3 million mark.
It started way higher than the DS one.
MKDS sold better in 2011 compared to 2010. Very interesting.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Just because BurntPork is banned doesn't mean you have to take up his mantle as crazy Nintendo fan. You're really reaching. Nintendo was interested in stealing the PSP's third party support and did so by securing most of the franchises that were successful. I don't think they consciously tailored their already successful franchises to accommodate this audience.
Well, as someone who wasn't around during Nintendo's golden era I can say I'm not enjoying this. I'm not even saying that as someone who's a large Vita supporter, I'm saying that as someone who's interested in sales talks. These threads have devolved into the same conversations and pining over the same software, with the same gifs and images posted in response to sales. Before we had conversations about software performance on all platforms, and even day 1 musings. Now we have Nintendomination, and Comgnet charts. Great.
MK7 is as of this week fastest selling one. 1.3 million against 1.27 million of MKWii.
MKWii started strongly but far away from the holiday season. MKDS didn't started as strong, probably because the franchise was coming from its "dark ages" of sub-million sales.
Lord_Byron28
Member
I'm guessing because of the increase in 3DS sales and MK7 caused more people to buy MKDS.
The same thing was happening but in reverse when 3DS was flopping earlier this year. Every thread devolved into trivial arguements as to why 3DS is flopping and how Nintendo could turn it around.
Two things
1) The Mario 3D Land part is considered an exaggeration even by myself, so...
2) I've taken a Nintendo brand which hasn't gone over 300k, and one...which comes back after 20 years, and has still to show IF it can attract people...so, I'm not talking about the usual big big successful Nintendo franchises.
And mine is just speculation based on some things I noticed. Especially in FE.
P.S. I see there are numbers from the Famitsu top 100 for 2011. Geimin already posted them? If not, where are you picking now them?
EDIT:Yes, they're on Geimin.
3DS related numbers incoming!
Holy s**t. NSBM is a beast of a title. It is quite scary when you think about it...the 3ds is yet to have its NSBM, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Tomodachi, and of course the new expanded audience titles that Iwata promised will come out this year
electroplankton
Banned
Very good numbers, indeed.
Surely MK7 will be one of the evergreens that will continue to sell along with the console, just as its predecessor; its LTD will depend to 3DS installed base of course.
Was it bundled in Japan?
[3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) - 451.932 / 1.082.391 / 41,75% 01/12/11
[3DS] Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo) - 344.698 / 1.042.511 / 33,06% 03/11/11
[3DS] Monster Hunter 3G (Capcom) - 471.055 / 809.322 / 58,20% 10/12/11
[3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo) - 182.998 / 498.145 / 36,74% 16/06/11
[3DS] Nintendogs+cats (Nintendo) - 68.973 / 431.096 / 16,00% 26/02/11
[3DS] Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracles (Level 5) - 117.589 / 354.344 / 33,18% 26/02/11
[3DS] Pokemon Rumble Blast (Nintendo) - 91.613 / 256.387 / 35,73% 11/08/11
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go (Level 5) - 141.458 / 232.052 / 60,96% 29/08/02
[3DS] One Piece: Unlimited Cruise SP (Bandai Namco) - 76.578 / 213.840 / 35,81% 26/05/11
[3DS] Samurai Warriors: Chronicles (Koei Tecmo) - 43.044 / 147.777 / 29,13% 26/02/11
[3DS] Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition (Capcom) - 38.557 / 137.883 / 27,96% 26/02/11
Updated to 2011.12.25
[3DS] Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo) - 344.698 / 1.042.511 / 33,06% 03/11/11
[3DS] Monster Hunter 3G (Capcom) - 471.055 / 809.322 / 58,20% 10/12/11
[3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo) - 182.998 / 498.145 / 36,74% 16/06/11
[3DS] Nintendogs+cats (Nintendo) - 68.973 / 431.096 / 16,00% 26/02/11
[3DS] Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracles (Level 5) - 117.589 / 354.344 / 33,18% 26/02/11
[3DS] Pokemon Rumble Blast (Nintendo) - 91.613 / 256.387 / 35,73% 11/08/11
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go (Level 5) - 141.458 / 232.052 / 60,96% 29/08/02
[3DS] One Piece: Unlimited Cruise SP (Bandai Namco) - 76.578 / 213.840 / 35,81% 26/05/11
[3DS] Samurai Warriors: Chronicles (Koei Tecmo) - 43.044 / 147.777 / 29,13% 26/02/11
[3DS] Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition (Capcom) - 38.557 / 137.883 / 27,96% 26/02/11
Updated to 2011.12.25
Technically, if you look at the recent sales of the handheld Zeldas; it may give the impression that people were not interested on them either. There are 150 million DS and the last Zelda on it (Spirit Tracks); did like 4-5 million worldwide.If the almost 500k of OoT3D have shown us something, it's that there's demand for Zelda...just not on Wii, it seems
Skyward Sword is around half that, under 3 months and most of those sales just in the US and on a system like the Wii that has been declining on sales.
If anything, I'd say that people want Zelda, but looking at Ocarina of Time, Ocarina of Time 3D, Phantom Hourglass and Twilight Princess...versus. Majora's Mask, Spirit Tracks, Skyward Sword..it seems that they just want the games "earlier". Anything "after" and is just seen as "too late" for many. Guess Nintendo will have to take the "Smash Bros//Mario Kart approach" of just making one per hardware.
electroplankton
Banned
It seems Layton didn't get any particular boost from the explosion of 3DS during holidays. What a shame. Hope the 6th one will do better.
I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
I just think it's silly speculation. All of the franchises you noted were already quite successful without the need to attract some "Sony" base, and I think the changes done to them were changes to advance their series or just make them more marketable in general. Yes, to make them more marketable may mean taking ideas from more popular series but I don't think the attempt was to make their first party lineup more attractive to those who buy Sony hardware, Nintendo's third party support is supposed to do that.
Mpl90 said:
Ugh, this is exactly what I was talking about. Apparently only 1 platform matters, the rest are literally dead, and anything on them isn't worthy of discussion other than to note how dead it is.
Though, I guess I shouldn't be surprised given who it is. Mpl is one of the most transparent one-company only posters on GAF. I don't think I've ever seen him discuss non-Nintendo things unless they were a part of his Comgnet posts or predictions.
What are you talking about/complaining about?
electroplankton
Banned
..or they were mimicked by Nintendo itself.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Stop.
Wait till WiiU releases, then we will have 2 platforms to talk about.
Around 500K give or take.
slaughterking
Member
We often get LTD software updates for just one specific platform. I don't think he had any malicious intentions when he posted that.
...Err, I've said very good things about Dark Souls, Gundam, I've also talked about FF and its future.
I've opened some Famitsu news threads with all the infos possible from Hokanko, I've searched for retailer impressions to understand the situation as a whole.
Heck, in the last MC thread, I've posted some blurbs from Famitsu top 100, with lots and lots of non Nintendo numbers XD
If you want to see also this thing for other platforms, however...sure.
PS3 Famitsu top 20
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) - 1.516.532 / 1.905.979 / 79,57% 17/12/09
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Konami) - 476.334 / 706.461 / 67,43% 12/06/08
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 (Square Enix) - 605.660 / 697.146 / 86,88% 15/12/11
[PS3] Tales of Xillia (Bandai Namco) - 512.544 / 632.151 / 81,08% 08/09/11
[PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (SCE) - 410.486 / 598.895 / 68,54% 25/11/10
[PS3] Yakuza 4: Heir to the Legend (Sega) - 395.123 / 557.771 / 70,84% 18/03/10
[PS3] Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage (Koei) - 385.551 / 553.229 / 69,69% 25/03/10
[PS3] Resident Evil 5 (Capcom) - 321.670 / 520.564 / 61,79% 05/03/09
[PS3] Yakuza 3 (Sega) - 356.867 / 509.306 / 70,07% 26/02/09
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 7 (Koei) - 259.787 / 470.773 / 55,18% 10/03/11
[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) - 229.076 / 450.184 / 50,88% 28/10/10
[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami) - 234.508 / 438.552 / 53,47% 05/11/09
[PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme Vs. (Bandai Namco) - 345.053 / 432.391 / 79,80% 26/07/07
[PS3] Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds (SCE) - 175.750 / 410.052 / 42,86% 26/07/07
[PS3] Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom) - 209.312 / 408.379 / 51,25% 29/07/10
[PS3] Yakuza of the End (Sega) - 307.592 / 409.949 / 75,03% 09/06/11
[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2009 (Konami) - 175.363 / 405.653 / 43,23% 27/11/08
[PS3] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 HD Version (Capcom) - 282.690 / 404.501 / 69,89% 25/08/11
[PS3] Tales of Vesperia (Bandai Namco) - 227.506 / 390.523 / 58,26% 17/09/09
[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2012 (Konami) - 268.542 / 405.757 / 66,18% 06/10/11
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 6 (Koei) - 176.180 / 371.443 / 47,43% 11/11/07
[PS3] White Knight Chronicles: Wave of the Ancient (SCE) - 203.033 / 339.690 / 59,77% 25/12/08
Updated to 2011.12.25
I've opened some Famitsu news threads with all the infos possible from Hokanko, I've searched for retailer impressions to understand the situation as a whole.
Heck, in the last MC thread, I've posted some blurbs from Famitsu top 100, with lots and lots of non Nintendo numbers XD
If you want to see also this thing for other platforms, however...sure.
PS3 Famitsu top 20
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) - 1.516.532 / 1.905.979 / 79,57% 17/12/09
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Konami) - 476.334 / 706.461 / 67,43% 12/06/08
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 (Square Enix) - 605.660 / 697.146 / 86,88% 15/12/11
[PS3] Tales of Xillia (Bandai Namco) - 512.544 / 632.151 / 81,08% 08/09/11
[PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (SCE) - 410.486 / 598.895 / 68,54% 25/11/10
[PS3] Yakuza 4: Heir to the Legend (Sega) - 395.123 / 557.771 / 70,84% 18/03/10
[PS3] Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage (Koei) - 385.551 / 553.229 / 69,69% 25/03/10
[PS3] Resident Evil 5 (Capcom) - 321.670 / 520.564 / 61,79% 05/03/09
[PS3] Yakuza 3 (Sega) - 356.867 / 509.306 / 70,07% 26/02/09
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 7 (Koei) - 259.787 / 470.773 / 55,18% 10/03/11
[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) - 229.076 / 450.184 / 50,88% 28/10/10
[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami) - 234.508 / 438.552 / 53,47% 05/11/09
[PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme Vs. (Bandai Namco) - 345.053 / 432.391 / 79,80% 26/07/07
[PS3] Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds (SCE) - 175.750 / 410.052 / 42,86% 26/07/07
[PS3] Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom) - 209.312 / 408.379 / 51,25% 29/07/10
[PS3] Yakuza of the End (Sega) - 307.592 / 409.949 / 75,03% 09/06/11
[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2009 (Konami) - 175.363 / 405.653 / 43,23% 27/11/08
[PS3] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 HD Version (Capcom) - 282.690 / 404.501 / 69,89% 25/08/11
[PS3] Tales of Vesperia (Bandai Namco) - 227.506 / 390.523 / 58,26% 17/09/09
[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2012 (Konami) - 268.542 / 405.757 / 66,18% 06/10/11
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 6 (Koei) - 176.180 / 371.443 / 47,43% 11/11/07
[PS3] White Knight Chronicles: Wave of the Ancient (SCE) - 203.033 / 339.690 / 59,77% 25/12/08
Updated to 2011.12.25
If you are interested in numbers of other platforms, how about posting them yourself? Why does he have to collect and sort all of the numbers? That's quite a hassle and it's easily understandable why he only does it for the platform that interests him the most.
Souldriver
Member
And what is wrong with focusing on a specific platform anyway? Providing stats and numbers for one platform is better than providing numbers for no platform at all.
It's obvious that most of the (newer) sales agers are Nintendo-minded, but if you'd ask them for numbers/stats from whatever (non-Nintendo) platform or game you like, you'll definitely get them. And if you don't want to ask for it, most data is readily available to plow through yourself.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
How is that? Seemed pretty good to me, from ports like RE4 to OG titles like MH3. I mean, what first party core title did undeservedly bad? The only one I can think of that actually did badly is Other M and very recently SS but for most both deserved that... I guess you'd think SMG2 could do better rather than worse than the first game but it's not like it did badly either...
Or are you still in the "no more heroes and mad world didn't sell 3 million" phase (btw you seem to be generalising beyond Japan)?
How the mighty have fallen.