I'm not counting on it, everything between May 6th and July 15th is unpleasant grind at work with no holidays and crummy weather (in June). Sales always plummet when June comes around.
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I'm not counting on it, everything between May 6th and July 15th is unpleasant grind at work with no holidays and crummy weather (in June). Sales always plummet when June comes around.
60k looks plausible, i doubt 100k tho
ffxv boosted ps4 to 120k during the holidays last year and i see dq doing similar numbers software-wise
dq is a much stronger franchise but considering 3ds will be the major platform, i dont see ps4 hardware sales being impacted that heavily
maybe, if it's going to be treated as the superior version, if the gameplay of two versions are exactly the same then the ps4 is fucked
Switch is the new Vita and 3ds
Ahh. I don't think thats even a question?
3ds and ps4 are both up yoy
they were both doing average 20k during these weeks last year
switch doing +20k like it has been doing against these consoles is pretty feasible, demand is still very strong and im sure demand will stay strong on the weeks leading up to splatoon's launch
the whole market has seen a boost this year, 40-50k is really nothing for a new console thats in demand imo
take 3ds for example, sales only stabilized after about 900k sales and it was nowhere in demand like the switch is
had switch launched during the holiday, i think demand would have stabilized by now, but since it didn't we're still seeing alot of pent up demand and as more games get released like mk8, this demand will stay pent up for awhile, its only about 500k worth of sales at this rate until splatoon comes along and raises demand again
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Switch quite literally makes the vita irrelevant, it better basically does everything the vita does....but better
And with actual support
ironically the vita is still going to receive more games than the switch
vita releases has slowed down a ton this year compared to last year so far
in sheer quantity its received about 3-4x less titles
in release schedule it was receiving new games every week, not this year
in hardware sales it's doing 2x less yoy, software sales is probably similar
wonder where all the support is gonna go....ps4?
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
60k is probably the number to look for. I doubt it would get much over that.
frankie_baby
Member
60k maybe though i think more 50k, 3ds (well 2ds specifically) will be the big hardware winner that week and probably will be over 100k
pretty sure ps4 owners care more about the graphics than portability if the gameplay is the same
the majority of the buyers will be people who already own either a 3ds or a ps4, people without a console will represent only a small portion
dont expect hardware sales to be prolonged by dq, rather just a boost in the first initial weeks as 3ds sales are already saturated and ps4 sales are already high enough from previous dq and rpg releases
replacement and le buyers will be the majority of the sales
Yeah, I'm more interested in knowing if Switch can hold well after GW more than what Switch might sell during GW.
In other words more than a peak it will be interesting to know if Switch keeps selling out even during slow weeks.
The rest of the pack are either dead or deflating.
in other words hardware and software sales have basically collapsed
as it has been since launch - depends on how much nintendo ships, 40k minimum is pretty much a lock
pent up demand + mario kart's release assures it'll dodge the post-gw drop
Eolz
Member
So it'll be like the PSP and get VNs 5 years from now.
Skullwaker
Member
One of these is not like the others.
Kids these days have it so easy, they can watch porn at anytime, back in my day....
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Doesn't look like Dengeki #s are up on their site yet? I guess we should be expecting them next week then?
well, more games are better than nothing I guess
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Is it? Im not caught up on what games are coming to it
Got eater 3, a new danganronpa, a survivor rpg from spike chunsoft, a bunch of VNs and NiS games, etc
We don't know what platforms the new God Eater game will be on and I don't think we've seen teases for a new Danganronpa game yet.
Don't you know that no third party devs is going to develop on Switch after they see Disgaea number there?^^
Sammy Samusu
Member
You can sum the sales of all those games and it wouldn't total the sales of Mario Kart Deluxe alone.
Switch doesn't need every game. It needs the relevant ones.
That's pretty much true for any console but as a consumer, having a wider variety of games on top of core sellers is anything but a negative. To call them irrelevant is just reductive.
This
While what Sammy said may be harsh, but what he said is correct though. It sure is good for consumers but in the grand scheme of things, having Core sellers is much much more important than getting tens to twenties small/mini games.
I never said he was wrong, just reductive. Similarly, I also take issue when people say Nintendo doesn't NEED the big third parties to be successful. They aren't wrong but at the same time, who's to say that they can't be even more successful with them?
the 3ds could have been in a even bigger place if they caught all of those niche audience on the vita, just sayin'
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
I don't really know how you can say this yet, unless you've never owned a Vita. OS wise, the Vita was far superior at launch, and still is. Loving my Switch, but it's missing some very basic stuff that my Vita could do in 2012. The Vita also has more software and support at the moment, but that will change no doubt because you know, the system is over 5 years old now.
That's true, although the argument being made is that Switch has more support. It doesn't. Not yet.
Agreed, and actually I think not having those big third party games is going to limit Switch's potential success in today's market. It'll sell extremely well if current trends continue, but I still see it's audience as relatively limited.
That's not my point nor did I imply that but whatever.
Well, for those who said that Nintendo don't need big third parties...they must be smoking something good there as Wii U and Gamecube shows how bad it is for Nintendo to go out without any third party there.
successful console needs both lots games plus relevant titles in my opinion
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Even a potential God Eater 3? Also Dungeon Travelers 2-2 is actually inching up to that mark.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Well, yeah. As far as I can see, no one suggested otherwise.
I said from now on.
We still have to see on which platforms will God Eater 3 be. If Vita is one of them in wil be the swan-song.
Jon Carter
Member
He said "basically." What the Vita does better than the Switch is insignificant compared with the stuff it doesn't do as well. The point is the Switch is the new high-end portable now. It makes the Vita considerably less attractive to gamers, developers and publishers.
but if the Switch truly is the new high end system right now, then why lots of third parties still don't care about it, except marvelous,Gust and some big names like Square and KT. I mean ther must be a reason why developers still choose the vita to release their games and not the switch
It just came out two months ago. Those devs probably don't even have kits yet.
Skullwaker
Member
The Switch just released. It's going to take time for 3rd parties to truly move over to it. The Vita has been around for 5 years, so obviously not everyone is going to jump ship immediately.
And it's not 'if' the Switch is the new high end system. It is. Regardless of third party support, it is the new high end system.
Errr.... why?
1st Course
Member
I had to check.
As of now it looks like the Vita is actually selling worse than 2013 PSP (would be nice if someone can show this on a graph)
Vita Week 17,2017 YTD: 221.432
PSP Week 17, 2013 YTD: 241.904
The PSP was discontinued the following year (2014)
As of now it looks like the Vita is actually selling worse than 2013 PSP (would be nice if someone can show this on a graph)
Vita Week 17,2017 YTD: 221.432
PSP Week 17, 2013 YTD: 241.904
The PSP was discontinued the following year (2014)
because the audience you claim to be targeted by those very little niche titles could very well be already on the console, considering how much it sold in the nowaday Japanese market, the sales that the big hitters got, and the presence of fewer but still present titles targeting a similar audience
It is a matter of size of target audiences: it is way more probable that the very small group targeted by "niche titles" also has a 3DS than due to one of the many way bigger titles, than not or viceversa.
It's logic and statistics.
Let's take for example the VIsual Novel genre, targeted by various small VIta titles. It could very well be that Ace Attorney series is of interest for that target market group and, being it able to sell way more copies than a small niche VN title on Vita, we can assume that a vast portion of that target group is already/also a 3DS owner.
We are not talking about a large enough group/genre of big enough sellers to presume that the niche target group isn't already present on the 3DS market
It is not that we have a big seller genre/title selling hotcakes of Vita to presume that the 3DS is missing out on that group, unlike it was for the cooperative action genre in Japan with Monster Hunter back in the PSP vs DS days, for example.
FAKE EDIT: now that I think about it, there is a title big enough on VIta and missing on 3DS that could lead us in saying that the 3DS is missing out on a particular target group, even if that target group is SO close to the classic and usual Nintendo core target group that I still think that the aformentioned analysis is still valid.
I'm talking about Minecraft