Media Create Sales: Week 18, 2017 (May 01 - May 07)

darkstar0155

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I think it will fall down once splatoon 2 hit the market, unless dlcs are great or they were planning to make a GOTY re-release
respectfully disagree and more agree with the other poster that replied.

MK8D/Arms/Spaltoon all feed the same game genre and I feel those three will eat into each others legs.

BotW is the only huge single player experience on the system and will remain that way until the fall/winter depending on when Xeno2/Mario/Skyrim/possible unannounced games release.

Winter DLC will keep it somewhat from second hand stores and will keep it as a discussion to people driving word of mouth.

Until it starts to drop under 20K consistently, its looking like that will be the baseline. About half a new switch owners buying it plus other people picking it up down the line as a second game if they didn't buy it when they bought the system.
 

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If Breath of the Wild followed typical sales pattern of previous recent Zeldas it should be close to 4 digits sales already.
 

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47k new Switch owners: 9,5k of them bought the game, it's cheap so people will fall into that trap of just getting it along with Mario Kart and Zelda.
1-2 Switch actually is a great seller for more mass market buyers there.^^ They surely won't buy Zelda there so 1-2 Switch is good for them. But with MK8DX out now, probably the leg will slowly dwindle in the upcoming weeks.^^
 

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If Breath of the Wild followed typical sales pattern of previous recent Zeldas it should be close to 4 digits sales already.
Typical Zeldas aren't launched with the system though. Only Twilight Princess launched with the Wii so far, I wonder how numbers compare between the two launch Zeldas.
 

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| NSW | 47.911 | 76.679 | | 825.163 | | 825.163 |

As a special curiosity, here's PS4's LTD as of Week 52, 2014 (or better, the console's total sales up to its first post-launch Holiday season)

| PS4 | 33.150 | 30.951 | | 970.667 | | 970.667 |

Soon™
 

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Typical Zeldas aren't launched with the system though. Only Twilight Princess launched with the Wii so far, I wonder how numbers compare between the two launch Zeldas.
If launch is the reason for Breath of the Wild legs in Japan it surely didn't help Twilight Princess and still doesn't explain Wii U version similar trend so far.
 

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If launch is the reason for Breath of the Wild legs in Japan it surely didn't help Twilight Princess and still doesn't explain Wii U version similar trend so far.
Can't it simply the reason why the leg probably going to be better is because BoTW is much more wanted product vs older Zelda title i guess?
 

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Apparently Fire Emblem Fates actually had pretty bad sellthrough given that shipment number was before the European launch, but these numbers were as of Nintendo's Q3 fiscal call.

Well no, they probably switched the method of counting a "sale", cause you'll note that they originally had 780k "shipped" to Japan which given the sales we knew about was absurd. (it was like 550k actually sold through? means they probably counted the $20 purchases in the numbers and then reversed it, cause there was no indication of a massive overshipment in Japan)
 

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MK8D/Arms/Spaltoon all feed the same game genre and I feel those three will eat into each others legs.
In the sense that Forza / Killer Instinct / Gears all feed the same genre?
Three entirely seperate genres by the same publisher that have multiplayer?
 

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In the sense that Forza / Killer Instinct / Gears all feed the same genre?
Three entirely seperate genres by the same publisher that have multiplayer?
maybe "genre" was a bad word, but yes. All three are "cartoony" arcade-y style multiplayer games. Chances are if you like MK, your going to like Splatoon, and probably Arms. Obviously not a direct correlation, but they are much much more similar to each other than BotW.

We will see when they release, but I would guess that when Arms comes out it will eat into MK8D sales more than BotW. And then when Splatoon comes out it will eat into Arms and MK8D sales again more than BotW.
 

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In the sense that Forza / Killer Instinct / Gears all feed the same genre?
Three entirely seperate genres by the same publisher that have multiplayer?
It is more on multiplayer game that will each contest a lot of gamer time investment. There is only so many a gamer can dedicated their time for there.^^
 

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ARMs is a wildcard, because it could be a new evergreen franchise or it could be the next Codename S.T.E.A.M., but there is zero evidence that Splatoon 1 in any way hurt the sales of MK8, or vice versa.

Aesthetic is not a genre. I very specifically chose the counter examples I did.
 

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ARMs is a wildcard, because it could be a new evergreen franchise or it could be the next Codetname S.T.E.A.M.
Arms won't be the next Splatoon but I wonder where these comparisons come from every time I hear for the Arms wildcard. What is similar, genre, budget, development team, promotion or expectations from Nintendo?
 

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Arms won't be the next Splatoon but I wonder where these comparisons come from every time I hear for the Arms wildcard. What is similar, genre, budget, development team, promotion or expectations from Nintendo?
Well, we also see this same reaction with Splatoon early on here.^^(I mean, remember that quite a lot predicted that Splatoon is going to bomba on W101 level?^^)

I just can't picture ARMS doing bad at all. The pedigree behind the software, the marketing level, and fans reaction had been totally different compared to Codenamed:STEAM or even W101.

If this game is to bomb, it would be a gigantic failure by Ninty there.
 

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Arms won't be the next Splatoon but I wonder where these comparisons come from every time I hear for the Arms wildcard. What is similar, genre, budget, development team, promotion or expectations from Nintendo?
I have no idea what Nintendos internal expectations are - my comparison to Codename S.T.E.A.M. is based on it being a new IP by a studio with a solid track record (IS) in a genre that they are familar with (TBS) that failed to take hold with its audience - I'm using 'wildcard' because I genuinely have no idea whether it will appeal or not.
Virtual On - the title it immediately reminded me of - was hugely popular in the Japanese arcade scene, and it could conceivably reignite that audience.

It could just as conceivably not.
 

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I have no idea what Nintendos internal expectations are - my comparison to Codename S.T.E.A.M. is based on it being a new IP by a studio with a solid track record (IS) in a genre that they are familar with (TBS) that failed to take hold with its audience - I'm using 'wildcard' because I genuinely have no idea whether it will appeal or not.
Virtual On - the title it immediately reminded me of - was hugely popular in the Japanese arcade scene, and it could conceivably reignite that audience.

It could just as conceivably not.
It's a 3D fighting game.Maybe a segment of the fans of a certain big 2D fighting game can be interested?

I mean this game won't be a flop, in Japan or ww, the only question is what kind of success we can expect.
 

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Well, we also see this same reaction with Splatoon early on here.^^(I mean, remember that quite a lot predicted that Splatoon is going to bomba on W101 level?^^)

I just can't picture ARMS doing bad at all. The pedigree behind the software, the marketing level, and fans reaction had been totally different compared to Codenamed:STEAM or even W101.

If this game is to bomb, it would be a gigantic failure by Ninty there.
Everytime I am reminded how bad W101 bombed a tear falls from my eye and a part of me dies inside.
 

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I have no idea what Nintendos internal expectations are - my comparison to Codename S.T.E.A.M. is based on it being a new IP by a studio with a solid track record (IS) in a genre that they are familar with (TBS) that failed to take hold with its audience - I'm using 'wildcard' because I genuinely have no idea whether it will appeal or not.
Virtual On - the title it immediately reminded me of - was hugely popular in the Japanese arcade scene, and it could conceivably reignite that audience.

It could just as conceivably not.
But there is a huge difference in how they manage both title here.

STEAM was announced on some insignificant event and develop by IS as their side project. It also had almost zero promotion and the western based art immediately killed any interest from Japan fans there.

While, ARMS is totally different.

It is announced in a totally huge presentation on Switch and had a real life human doing the promotion during the reveal.
It also had Mario Kart team behind the development as their main project.
Tons of marketing had also been done to promote the game through Nico Nico Video and Direct. And this is not counting the E3 which surely is going to promote ARMS too.

Except for being new IP, they had totally different circumstances there.

Everytime I am reminded how bad W101 bombed a tear falls from my eye and a part of me dies inside.
Not only u bro.T__T That game is soo good especially the final battle is hype as F.^^
 

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Wish Nintendo would've shipped more for GW, but it's understandable if they want to prioritize the west right now. Good sales for MK8D, Zelda, Nier and Pokemon. Also nice to see Kirby make a reappearance.

Apparently Fire Emblem Fates actually had pretty bad sellthrough given that shipment number was before the European launch, but these numbers were as of Nintendo's Q3 fiscal call.

I would imagine this indicates that they simply changed their method of what to count as a sale, as others have said. It's possible that initially they counted all Revelations purchases as additional units, but retracted that. And who knows what they count the Special Edition as.

Regardless, 1.6m or 1.84m, I'd hardly call either 'barely' above a million. They're closer to 2m than 1m, after all.

Switch has crossed streams with the Wii U on week 9. Took the PS4 85 weeks.

The momentum of the Switch is incredible so far. It should easily hit a million before Splatoon 2 releases.

P.S. Great work on your Youtube channel, dude.
 

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darkstar0155

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It's a 3D fighting game.Maybe a segment of the fans of a certain big 2D fighting game can be interested?

I mean this game won't be a flop, in Japan or ww, the only question is what kind of success we can expect.
Depends on what is defined as a flop for the effort they have put in. Im completely pulling this out of my but, but if I had to guess... I would say for JP 150K-650K before the holiday season hits.
 

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I mean this game won't be a flop, in Japan or ww, the only question is what kind of success we can expect.
Sure. There is an enormous spectrum between "new evergreen franchise" and "complete sales failure". Which was sort of my point.

e: That and that its success or failure will be mostly on its own merits, not dependent upon the success or failure of Mario Kart or Splatoon
 

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Sure. There is an enormous spectrum between "new evergreen franchise" and "complete sales failure". Which was sort of my point.

e: That and that its success or failure will be mostly on its own merits, not dependent upon the success or failure of Mario Kart or Splatoon
Oh ok then...

...that Codename S.T.E.A.M reference tho :]
 

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Not only u bro.T__T That game is soo good especially the final battle is hype as F.^^
I was sold after fighting the three headed dragon at the beginning. Entire game (outside a few of the bad two screen sections) was just wild and a crazy ride from beginning to end.

To this day I still secretly hope for a W102. I actually think a second one would sell decently due to all the word of mouth from the first.
 

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those legs are even stronger than Nier
When u are comparing leg between A "Mario" title vs a niche title like Nier, i would said it says a lot about how great Nier had performed there lol.^^

I was sold after fighting the three headed dragon at the beginning. Entire game (outside a few of the bad two screen sections) was just wild and a crazy ride from beginning to end.

To this day I still secretly hope for a W102. I actually think a second one would sell decently due to all the word of mouth from the first.
While i would love for W102, i would just rather see Kamiya tried to make himself a proper new IP which can actually sale rather than seeing him continue a bomb IP.T_T I don't want to see Kamiya to experience too much bomba lol.^^
 

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When u are comparing leg between A "Mario" title vs a niche title like Nier, i would said it says a lot about how great Nier had performed there lol.^^



While i would love for W102, i would just rather see Kamiya tried to make himself a proper new IP which can actually sale rather than seeing him continue a bomb IP.T_T I don't want to see Kamiya to experience too much bomba lol.^^
But come on, for a quick cash grab version of mario maker, it did great
I want Platinum Games to make a fire emblem spin off, an action rpg like Nier would help
 
Typical Zeldas aren't launched with the system though. Only Twilight Princess launched with the Wii so far, I wonder how numbers compare between the two launch Zeldas.
This is what, Switch week 10? At week 10 Twilight Princess (Wii)'s total was up to 2.7x its first week, on its way to an eventual 3.8x. Looks like right now Switch BOTW is about 2.4x its first week.

However, week 10 was TP's final week over 10K.
 

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But come on, for a quick cash grab version of mario maker, it did great
I want Platinum Games to make a fire emblem spin off, an action rpg like Nier would help
I think that ship has past by sadly. As we are getting FE Musou already here.^^

On Mario Maker, i mean. It is not surprising to see it did really well there but for Nier to had such nice leg is damn surprising.^^
 

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Nintendo only moved 47,911 Switches after MK8D released? Is the Switch still constraint in Japan due to production limitations?
 

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Nintendo only moved 47,911 Switches after MK8D released? Is the Switch still constraint in Japan due to production limitations?
Switch moved 124,590 units since MK8D's launch. And yes, it is supply constrained.
 

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Nintendo only moved 47,911 Switches after MK8D released? Is the Switch still constraint in Japan due to production limitations?
Just assume until you hear otherwise its still supply constrained, got a feeling it will be quite some time
 

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ARMS will need a demo for good first week sales, and after that it's really a matter of if ARMS has LEGS.
Its still over a month from release, it wont be massive week 1 but should still put in respectable numbers

I understand but so far I demo has been announced and if I remember correctly it was already a thing for splatoon, and the risk is also to be squeezed in between Mario Kart and Splatoon hype