There's no issue but it's straight up the PS3 game in 1080p. They didn't make any use of the additional power provided by the PS4.
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There's no issue but it's straight up the PS3 game in 1080p. They didn't make any use of the additional power provided by the PS4.
Eolz
Member
This.
I didn't say it was a bad port by any means, just a lazy one. Improvements are resolution and loading times, that's all.
Skullwaker
Member
Oh, then yeah I agree with that. Hopefully if Persona 5 Crimson gets a Switch port it takes advantage of its features (aside from portability of course).
You won't even hear about it charting.
Nobody did considering that it seems to be flopping.
Refreshment.01
Member
Hello there:
The above replies ignore that the Switch main unit dimensions are dependable of the Joycon size in terms of height and thickness. With improvements to the SOC the new revisions could be:
- 1) Same model but lighter and improved battery life. It could be less thicker away from the edges while maintaining at the sides enough space to attach normal sized Joycons. Actually it would be an interesting look with the unit been slimmer but more deep in the sides.
2)Same form factor and size but with a 7 '' screen. There's seems to be enough space in the cuarrent Switch model to accomodate a screen aproximatly 14% bigger. - 3) Anoher model that aso increases the screen size to a 7.2'' LCD but If NIntendo brings back the foldable design they could have the unit of same width as a 3DS XL and retain the same height. Thought it would have more thickness and the screen will fold backwards to not hit the thumbstics. Or fold normally if Nintendo brings back circle pads. Both bringing back circle pads and foldable design seems doubtful.
Finally we need to consider that there are multiple things Nintendo needs to burn before thinking about a smaller screen cheaper super entry level SKU (a 2DS like):
- Sorting out supply issues of the cuarrent model.
- After the above, the impact key software to drive the sales of the cuarrent model in a similar price ball park.
- A die shrink of the APU that would allow cost reduction, battery life improvement and open the way to a XL like revision at similar price and the cuarrent model at a reduced price.
Calm Mind
Member
where?
Jawbreaker
Member
And frame rate, vsync, and higher quality cutscenes.
It's 30fps on both consoles.
Jawbreaker
Member
It tears and drops frames on the PS3.
Graphics Horse
Member
Not sure where to post this but here is my pessimistic take: It takes up the same amount of room as the tablet section so no reason it wouldn't be possible.
I'll be generous and let people choose one restriction to remove.
Jawbreaker
Member
Skullwaker
Member
Nintendo Swizz, lol.
That looks cute though. I'd be tempted to get one and I already own a Switch.
Calm Mind
Member
A Switch without the ability to 'switch' from handheld to console cannot be a Switch.
Graphics Horse
Member
It's a Swizz!
Says more about how the PS3 version sucks than how they put effort into PS4 version.
Skullwaker
Member
Yeah, this is where the issue is. A handheld-only Switch would really go against the marketing of the system. They'd have to change the name like 3DS->2DS.
So Swizz would technically work.
Jawbreaker
Member
I'm not making a judgment on their efforts, just noting the more egregious differences that were left out (I can't stand screen tearing).
frankie_baby
Member
How much would they save on manufacture by not having joycon compatability? Like a dollar
Yeah, this is where the issue is. A handheld-only Switch would really go against the marketing of the system. They'd have to change the name like 3DS->2DS.
So Swizz would technically work.
Even then, the 2DS still makes it relatively clear what it is in comparison to the 3DS.
Graphics Horse
Member
It all adds up! Like I said you can pick one feature to add back in.
It's possible they'd recoup more than they'd lose by the Joy-Con sales increasing if it did support them.
ZZ doesn't scream no joycons or docking or rumble to you?!
SinCityAssassin
Member
I'd just go a step further and remove the screen entirely, by the path you're going for this.
In any case, any updates on how DQ is doing this week?
Graphics Horse
Member
Not sure how familiar people are with the word but it does to me!
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/swizz
I'm told removing headphone ports is very fashionable now, they were ahead of their time with the SP.
Not sure where to post this but here is my pessimistic take: It takes up the same amount of room as the tablet section so no reason it wouldn't be possible.
I'll be generous and let people choose one restriction to remove.
It's the Vita 2! Remove the buttons and screen and you get the Vita 2 TV.
It's currently first on the paid charts but it's not in the top 50 for grossing
Idk about numbers tho
Father_Brain
Banned
....why would it not support Joy-Cons as an optional accessory for local multiplayer? How much would that really save?
Lord_Byron28
Member
Maybe this patent will be used for the Mini Switch instead of Joycons. I'd say still keep connection to the TV. Screen about the size of a smartphone like the Galaxy S8 Edge.
Garou
Member
On iOS it sits on rank 145 for grossing and is literally the only paid app in the Top200 for grossing.
I really want to know how the numbers compare to the 3DS edition.
Did this thread time travel back to February while I was asleep?
Nintendo still has to support the 2/3DS while it stills has games being released. Switch will replace both the Wii U and 3DS lines and will eventually be the sole machine Nintendo develops for (beside smaho). They will not replace the design of the Switch until they think they can sell more and make more money by doing so. 3rd parties will announce games for Switch either when they are ready or when they are too scared to go their investors meeting without.
Nintendo still has to support the 2/3DS while it stills has games being released. Switch will replace both the Wii U and 3DS lines and will eventually be the sole machine Nintendo develops for (beside smaho). They will not replace the design of the Switch until they think they can sell more and make more money by doing so. 3rd parties will announce games for Switch either when they are ready or when they are too scared to go their investors meeting without.
I feel like we're back to the start again.
It's 2015, people won't know yet that they want a Nintendo Switch. There are people that want Nintendo to make a PS4 clone.
The parallel I'm drawing is, people want a Nintendo Switch. Yet there is a vocal minority that want Nintendo to make the Vita.
Why would anyone want a Vita? Or even a Vita TV for that matter?
I've made this argument before that there becomes a point where removing features from the Switch would leave you with an undesirable product.
Yes, I know the 2DS exists. The only reason it exists is because the 3D screen of the 3DS failed to become a unique selling point. So Nintendo did a revision that they could sell for cheaper by cutting down on manufacturing costs.
I am aware the Switch is expensive if you look at it as a handheld, however, don't forget the software is now $60 regularly.
Even if you want Nintendo to make a portable only Switch that is supposed to be cheap to cater for the Kid's market, the games they buy will now cost $60.
So, that's another point. A Switch revision that's portable only with no ability to dock to a TV and no Joy-Cons attached would make buying the $60 software unattractive because you are now buying $60 software for a handheld.
It's 2015, people won't know yet that they want a Nintendo Switch. There are people that want Nintendo to make a PS4 clone.
The parallel I'm drawing is, people want a Nintendo Switch. Yet there is a vocal minority that want Nintendo to make the Vita.
Why would anyone want a Vita? Or even a Vita TV for that matter?
I've made this argument before that there becomes a point where removing features from the Switch would leave you with an undesirable product.
Yes, I know the 2DS exists. The only reason it exists is because the 3D screen of the 3DS failed to become a unique selling point. So Nintendo did a revision that they could sell for cheaper by cutting down on manufacturing costs.
I am aware the Switch is expensive if you look at it as a handheld, however, don't forget the software is now $60 regularly.
Even if you want Nintendo to make a portable only Switch that is supposed to be cheap to cater for the Kid's market, the games they buy will now cost $60.
So, that's another point. A Switch revision that's portable only with no ability to dock to a TV and no Joy-Cons attached would make buying the $60 software unattractive because you are now buying $60 software for a handheld.
Do you guys think PS4 will ever get Monster Hunter?
Jawbreaker
Member
Looking back on the countless Monster Hunter threads leading up to the eventual announcement is a real treat.
Yagami_Sama
Member
Man, imagine the chaos that this thread will be when Capcom release Monster Hunter World and :
A) - It will sell way more than the Monster Hunter XX for Switch
and the third world war if :
B) - Monster Hunter World sells less than the than Double Cross for Switch.
A) - It will sell way more than the Monster Hunter XX for Switch
and the third world war if :
B) - Monster Hunter World sells less than the than Double Cross for Switch.
I don't think anyone expects World to sell less than XX Switch. Things would be crazy is that somehow happened though.
OfficerRaichu15
Member
I think it'll be Monster Hunter Frontier
This is the expected outcome, so no chaos there.
Nah, not even Capcom is that cra...
A lot of the appeal of the switch is this switching between handheld, 2 player, set top design, is it possible people will get tired of that and they change the design? Sure, but the current design is what is capturing the most attention here. Many 5 year old children have iPads these days (or at least the part of Tokyo I live), size, durability, and cost of the switch as is probably isn't as big a factor as many think, at least at the moment. The greatest barrier keeping children away from the switch is the lack of switches.
OfficerRaichu15
Member
I wonder what the price of Bomberman will be
And again, a lot of the Switch features which allow it to be a hybrid also allow it to be a table-top local multiplayer machine and that has to be a portable use case Nintendo is interested in promoting for the sake of getting more people playing the device through playing together.
Joy cons aren't just about the ability to attach them to the grip. They are about the portable use case too.
Joy cons aren't just about the ability to attach them to the grip. They are about the portable use case too.
D.Lo
Member
I honestly think a handheld only Switch will eventually come, but if it's after the main unit has sold 50 million and a bunch of cheaper 'selects' games and downloads are out, there won't be any confusion or software price issues at that point.
If XXNS sells half MHW it would be a shocking success and/or MHW a shocking failure.
The first is obvious - late cheap port of an upgrade of a spinoff, vs a massive budget full push MH5.
If XXNS sells half MHW it would be a shocking success and/or MHW a shocking failure.
I mean, just anecdotally (I've been to a Best Denki, GEO, and Yodobashi) I've hardly seen any material for MHXX on Switch aside from usually a small poster around the Nintendo area that says it's coming out this month.
On the other side, Sony/Capcom has pamphlets in the PS4 section for a game not coming out for months from now. No mention of XO (obviously) or PC versions so for all intents and purpose anyone coming into the store will see it as a PS4 exclusive.
This is the pamphlet, only has a couple pages:
Back has release dates and and ads for Crash, DQXI, and Everyone's Golf, along with the models of PS4 on sale.