I know Yo-kai Watch was a slow burn initially, and that there's a chance of a boom happening here too. It's just kind of fun to shit on Level 5 and their business practices, though. :/ I think duckroll understands where I'm coming from there.
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I know Yo-kai Watch was a slow burn initially, and that there's a chance of a boom happening here too. It's just kind of fun to shit on Level 5 and their business practices, though. :/ I think duckroll understands where I'm coming from there.
Also the worst company at maintaining IP strength for a long time, and not new to failure/tepid responses.
Can't forget Fantasy Life, Little Battlers, Ni no Kuni (in Japan), their mobile output for the most part.
The only one who plays it smart every week with snarky posts is you.
Gotdatmoney
Member
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Can you guys knock it off with this whose right whose wrong over predictions shit? The whole thing is suppose to be in good spirit, leave it as such.
Level 5 strikes me as the type of company that would rather release 5 tepid to okayish products to hit it big on the odd one. It's the kids market and that makes it pretty volatile by nature so I get the approach
Can you guys knock it off with this whose right whose wrong over predictions shit? The whole thing is suppose to be in good spirit, leave it as such.
Level 5 strikes me as the type of company that would rather release 5 tepid to okayish products to hit it big on the odd one. It's the kids market and that makes it pretty volatile by nature so I get the approach
If you say so. Stay angry
Like this:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45683502
Dengeki:
04./00. [WIU] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Capcom) - 110,794 / NEW
Bundle: ~75k
Standalone: ~35k
Spieler Eins
Member
Yet it certainly isn't their strategy to release a new multimedia project to underwhelming sales in preparation of the real sales boost one year later, because they lucked out that one time.
Don't bother, goal posts change faster than the stock market in MC threads.
I stay amused with your typical posts.
More generally, the stock went up because of MHXX announcement itself, not the bundle. They could have increased the available bundles regardless, of course.
lyrick
Member
Dragon Quest Comparison
Code:------------------------------------------------------------------ | | Dragon Quest VIII | Dragon Quest IX | Dragon Quest XI | | | [PS2] 2004/11/27 | [NDS] 2009/07/11 |[3DSPS4] 2017/07/29| |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------| |Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------| | 1 |2.167.072|2.167.072|2.318.932|2.318.932|2.099.203|2.099.203| | 2 | 476.281|2.643.353| 612.671|2.931.603| 508.512|2.607.714| | 3 | 203.618|2.846.971| 270.305|3.201.908| 207.762|2.815.476| | 4 | 152.295|2.999.266| 179.612|3.381.520| 117.248|2.932.725| | 5 | 104.211|3.103.477| 135.649|3.517.169| | | | 6 | 71.019|3.174.496| 126.682|3.643.851| | | | 7 | 37.507|3.212.003| 79.103|3.722.954| | | | 8 | 23.858|3.235.861| 71.318|3.794.272| | | | 9 | ?| ?| 50.063|3.844.335| | | | 10 | ?| ?| 36.877|3.881.212| | | | 11 | ?| ?| 32.603|3.913.815| | | | 12 | ?| ?| 30.086|3.943.901| | | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------| |Year| YTD | LTD | YTD | LTD | YTD | LTD | |----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------| |Total -|3.319.607| -|4.143.999| -|2.932.725| ------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there any reason to believe that DQXI will not continue to follow the same retail sell through trajectory of DQVIII even with two distinct SKUs?
Will the NSW version be a wild card or another late to the party release?
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
When will the NAND chip shortage end?
Eolz
Member
I remember news talking about next spring?
The issue is more about smartphobe flagships coming in for around october.
Monster Hunter comes out this week, they might be holding stock back for it
Oh wow, I didn't know MH3U had such a huge ratio.
There aren't many who know what is coming after Obon.
James Scott
Banned
Switch dropped quite a bit, though it's probably due to stock being held for the MHXX bundle next week.
reposted from the other thread
Well it was a launch game. So, to make a lot of bundles isn't strange.
MHXX won't have 75k bundles, but not just 10k either. Something in the middle.
DeuceGamer
Member
Switch drop very significant. Was really hoping they would stay over 50K. Obviously the demand isn't the issue so they just need to fix the manufacturing issues.
With all of the restocks we've seen in North America over the last week, maybe they focused the stock over here, which negatively impacted Japan?
With all of the restocks we've seen in North America over the last week, maybe they focused the stock over here, which negatively impacted Japan?
KillerMan91
Member
Europe too has gotten better shipments. Switch is currently in stock in every european regional Amazon except spanish amazon..
DeuceGamer
Member
I guess it's possible they have increased production some but after a month of those extra shipments going to Japan they finally focused on the west to help out in those area's.
The japanese console market situation was already determined before Switch release.
PS4 and 3DS are holding out good (they are up YoY) but neither have demonstrated they could drive the market (3DS did his part years ago but it is now too old).
Everything else is either dying (Vita which need to thanks Minecraft for a longer than expected lifespan) or dead (XBO, WiiU).
Only Switch is the unknown variable here (although now we have a few signs from the first few months of availability).
The current industry talk is actually NAND (and RAM) chips getting more expensive and relief coming only in 2018. Nintendo better ordered what they need quite some time ago to not be affected even longer.
Minsc
Gold Member
You could sometimes try and not be so harsh, you know. And my predictions were actually not half bad, certainly in the ball park. Some parts didn't pan out, true, but others did.
Hardware was ~40k for ARMS (~38k) and the subsequent week it was ~20k (~22k. and it basically stayed in the 20k range right up until Splatoon 2, except just breaking 30k the week prior to Splatoon 2), yet you made it a point to call me out anyway, pointing out that using using Famitsu hardware was 49k and it fell to 27k next week, not sure why, but you did.
I was off with the hardware level for Splatoon 2 sure (initial guess wasn't too horrible, I was mostly wrong on it staying high for 3 weeks), it was close to ~100k, and stayed there a while (~90k the next week, then ~60k, then ~90k again the fourth week), but now we're at ~22k. And I'm not sure what to make of that, it'll take another couple weeks to get an idea what is going on again with the hardware. But I did preface it with it being a wild guess, so it's not like I was presenting my prediction with being anything more relevant than for my own amusement.
Anyway, all I saw about the MHXX bundle was how limited stock it would be, so I finally caved and wanted to see what people thought limited stock for the hardware bundle would be. I guess your range of 20-50k worth of bundles is still limited sounding, but I not quite as limited as I was thinking based on the earlier posts I read, which I fully admitted I didn't really know where to convert limited to in numbers, especially given I hadn't seen any else take a stab at it previously.
I have already spent t many words in explaining the business model mutated by the toy and cartoon market so I will not repeat my self
Fact is: catching good lighting in a bottle of only happened twice to L5 but many more time
Looking g at their new IP launched since Layton so far they have been even more successfully in penetrating the market with brand new videogame franchise
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Well, I hope it's soon into 2018.
... Consumers should be able to a Nintendo Switch if they want one.
Maybe from May 2018 onwards they will?
Wrong again
It already happened twice with Inazuma (debut around 38k, without anime, than arrived to 1 million sales, first non Dq or Ff rpg to reach that milestone in over a decade) before YW (similar debut without cartoon, then the boom up to 3 millions)
Snack isn't going to repeat this success, because the anime was already on air. So no, this isn't going to be the next big thing.
But calli g them lucky for having g being able to catch lighting in a bottle once is simply false and wrong
I feel that Level-5 success is based on creating and riding popular craze among young japanese with the help of multimedia initiatives (this is exactly what propelled Inazuma Eleven and Yokai Watch).
The good side of the coin of this strategy is that if done right you can create new IPs which become million sellers which is quite a rare case for the japanese market.
On the flip side of the coin (negative) it's a strategy that prevent a long term relevance of the IPs because they are tied to the finite popularity of the whole multimedia project.
So once found a golden goose, Level-5 milk it as fast as they can and then they start from scratch.
It's a sword of Damocle but I think the net results are positive (at least for now).
Level-5 started by just being a mere developer for hire, began publishing its own titles on DS and quickly (on the shoulder of big sellers like Layton, Inazuma and Yokai Watch) became first a top 10 publisher in the japanese market and more recently a top 5 contender.
This just in a span of 10 years (Level-5 is by far the youngest of the top publishers, all the rest have roots in the '80s arcade industry or/and in the Famicom era).
The point back then and now is the same.
You can't predict shipment pattern since nobody except Nintendo knows production scale and how the units are arranged. The only thing we know is production is going up.
This week Switch fell at 20k and next it will rise somewhere between 50 and 100k. What can you make out of that? We have to wait until weekend every time to see how high or low stock is.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Eh tbf your post arms predictions wasn't exactly ground breaking. I'm not even sure what other feasible predictions there even were for that scenario other than Nintendo suddenly producing a massive amount of stock to maintain that bases despite the limp previous weeks and even the debut amount for ARMS. Or that there would be a dramatic ramp up afte arms?
It was the likely and easily predicted scenario. Spatoon was always the biggest question mark since everyone dealing with even less information than normal.
FreedomFighter
Member
Switch sales are beyond disappointing. Come on, Nintendo.
It was obvious that sometime Level 5 practice would backfire and burn them and it looked from many months ago that time was now. As for the chance there isn't.
That indeed was weird. It was February, SE got a whole year to release the game.
Lord_Byron28
Member
Yeah I'm thinking ~2.1 million end of the year for 3DS and ~1.6 million for PS4.
While it's not likely the Switch will surpass the 3DS this year. I do think it is inevitable. I think an important message for the Switch's first year in Japan is how it will outsell the Wii U's first year.
Yeah with digital I could see Splatoon 2's attach rate being closer to 70% which is insane especially for a shooter in Japan.
What's interesting is that Arms is selling more the week after the ARMS bundles than the weeks prior to the ARMS bundles as well as having the smallest post Obon switch drop. Perhaps word of mouth is growing or maybe its just statistical noise. I think Nintendo should do a holiday bundle with ARMS as it's a good pack-in title for the Switch. I'd be curious if with the continued free DLC, if ARMS could do more than 300K. Although it is doubtful.
Yeah Nintendo seems to be prioritizing the North American market. Comparatively the Switch has sold roughly 1.6 million in NA in the same time that 3DS sold ~1 million, DS sold 1.4 million and Wii sold 2.1 million. Keep in mind DS and Wii had holiday seasons under their belt as well. I suspect they are prioritizing the West for a number of reasons:
1. Capturing the Western Market while its hot. Wii U suffered the biggest losses from the NA market. It's also important for future third party support from both Japanese and western developers to have a large western audience. This has been area Nintendo has struggled with a lot in the past. If they can establish a large western audience quickly they could secure some standard 3rd party support from EA, Activision, Ubisoft and Warner Bros.
2. 3DS is a much more active, vibrant and healthy platform in Japan. The 3DS is still doing well and the userbase is still pretty active in the 3DS in Japan compared to the West so they can alleviate some pressure by still supporting the 3DS.
3. Switch is outselling Wii U LTD in its first year in Japan. Switch is also outselling the PS4's first 3 years on the market in its first year. For the first year on the market, it is still getting the message across that this is the next portable device in Japan that 3DS/Vita developers should start developing for.
RoboGeorgeForeman
Banned
Kinda disappointing since the show is actually pretty good, and the game looks fairly solid too. I'd have imported if it wasn't for 3DS region-locking or better yet had it been on both Switch and 3DS (not that my sale would have mattered).
Yagami_Sama
Member
Nintendo Switch back to the 20k range, I thought that it would follow Splatoon 2 numbers and be in the 30k range. But the drop was kind of expected. Now the interesting is how Monster Hunter Double Cross bundle will perform. I very curious about it.
Maybe, just maybe, it was all planned, ship all Splatoon 2 bundles and when the stock is gone, put the Monster Hunter bundle to keep on momentum and boos sales.
Maybe, just maybe, it was all planned, ship all Splatoon 2 bundles and when the stock is gone, put the Monster Hunter bundle to keep on momentum and boos sales.
Level 5 is completely unprepared for the transition to next generation and next big thing for them. They are running out of potential buyers and I don't see something at horizon that could change things. They will drop to irrelevance very soon, if they aren't already there, and the comeback won't be easy.
The attach rate is over 2/3, right? Is that the highest we've ever seen in Japan?
Super Smash Bros Melee.
KillerMan91
Member
Super Smash Bros Melee had attach rate of 83% during its launch week (It sold 357k units on hardware base of 429k).