Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2012 (Sep 03 - Sep 09)

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Every day that passes PSP loses its power. The decline for LBX W is given but the size of decline remains to be seen.

God Eater 2 is PSP's last big title and if BN continues to delay its release it won't end well, at least not for a single PSP release.
Yep. At the start of the year, I said that the end of September would pretty much be the unofficial cut-off date for making a PSP release worthwhile. As expected, sales for PSP titles have been down pretty consistently across the board all year (with respect to comparisons to previous entries in the series), but the sales have held up well enough to still make it a worthwhile platform for games where you can reuse engines and assets from previous titles and sell to the userbase that you've already built up on the platform.

But after September, it just doesn't make sense to go PSP exclusive. The sales decline will be too large to make it worthwhile - better off going with a healthier platform at that point.

The next Gundam G Gen game will just barely squeeze into that Sept window, and it should do okay for itself (and will fit all the criteria that I listed before). But something is going on with God Eater 2. If it stays PSP exclusive, N-B will be leaving a lot of potential sales on the table by releasing the game far too late in the PSP life (much like they let Soul Calibur 3 rot by making it PS2 exclusive at the end of the generation).

By the way, it's still too early to try to divine anything with any confidence - but Xillia 2 is starting to look more and more like FFXIII-2 based on comg. Maybe RE6 is stealing some of the preorder thunder and Xillia 2 will bounce back once RE6 is out - there's still time left - but it's facing a pretty steep drop compared to Xillia right now.
 

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Dengeki Sales: Sep 03 - Sep 09, 2012 (Week 36)


01. (04) [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 (Nintendo) - 40,322 / 1,093,093 (-33%)
02. (__) [3DS] Lost Heroes (Bandai Namco) - 29,980 / 29,980 [ST: ~60% => 50,000]
03. (__) [PS3] Max Payne 3 (Rockstar) - 19,050 / 19,050
04. (01) [PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA f (SEGA) - 18,647 / 172,160 (-88%)
05. (__) [PSP] Lost Heroes (Bandai Namco) - 15,728 / 15,728
06. (09) [NDS] Pokemon Black 2 (Pokemon Co.) - 11,816 / 1,457,553 (-28%)
07. (02) [3DS] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (Atlus) - 11,106 / 86,482 (-85%)
08. (13) [NDS] Pokemon White 2 (Pokemon Co.) - 10,332 / 1,282,890 (-27%)
09. (10) [WII] Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsusu no Shuzoku Online (Square Enix) - 10,200 / 520,058 (-33%)
10. (__) [PS3] Gekiatsu!! Pachige Damashi Max: Evangelion 7 X Seimei no Kodou (Fields) - 10,187 / 10,187
11. (03) [3DS] Senran Kagura Burst: Guren no Shoujotachi (Marvelous AQL) - 9,419 / 79,995 (-87%)
12. (15) [3DS] Taiko Drum Master: Chibi Dragon to Fushigina Orb (Bandai Namco) - 9,239 / 201,129 (-22%)
13. (12) [3DS] Run For Money Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-tachi kara Nigekire! (Bandai Namco) - 8,853 / ? (-38%)
14. (16) [3DS] Oni Training (Nintendo) - 8,211 / 140,413 (-27%)
15. (06) [PS3] Sengoku Basara HD Collection (Capcom) - 7,128 / 39,450 (-78%)
16. (17) [WII] Just Dance Wii 2 (Nintendo) - 6,150 / 163,666 (-38%)
17. (11) [PSP] Rurouni Kenshin: Meiji Kenkaku Romantan - Kansei (Bandai Namco) - 5,815 / 20,465 (-60%)
18. (__) [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Dubbed Edition [Special Price] (Square Enix) - 5,726 / 5,726
19. (19) [3DS] Kobitodzukan: Kobito Kansatsu Set (Nippon Columbia) - 5,700 / 91,578 (-38%)
20. (__) [PS3] Ratchet & Clank Collection (SCE) - 5,219 / 5,219


*ST: Sell-through => estimated copies shipped.


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Famitsu No. 1237 (total up to 07/29):

[PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors (Bandai Namco) {2012-03-01} - 812,530
[PS3+360] Warriors Orochi 3 (Koei Tecmo) {2011-12-22} - 408,266
[NDS] Pokemon Conquest (Pokemon Co.) {2012-03-17} - 331,333
 

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By the way, it's still too early to try to divine anything with any confidence - but Xillia 2 is starting to look more and more like FFXIII-2 based on comg. Maybe RE6 is stealing some of the preorder thunder and Xillia 2 will bounce back once RE6 is out - there's still time left - but it's facing a pretty steep drop compared to Xillia right now.
After easing off a little on the release pace of brand new "Tales of" games, they seem to be ramping up again. Which probably isn't helping.

Could also be that Xillia benefited a lot in sales from the reception Vesperia and Graces F received.
 

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Every day that passes PSP loses its power. The decline for LBX W is given but the size of decline remains to be seen.

God Eater 2 is PSP's last big title and if BN continues to delay its release it won't end well, at least not for a single PSP release.
I know, but at least I expect +100k FW and +200k LTD for the PSP version. It's far from the +300k from the first game, but that number is impossible to reach since Level 5 decided a dual release with PSV, instead of 3DS.

About God Eater 2, I expect an announcement in TGS for 3DS (right choice, where the MonHun fanbase is) or PSV (not the best choice, but PSP compatibility at least).
 

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Btw, I guess that DCharlie's prediction of a MH game on PSP or Vita this Christmas is no more likely. MH for 2012 will be 3G HD Ver.
Where is this coming from? I said -since the start- there was NO Vita version coming but i said i was surprised that there was no PSP cash in. I (in the last few weeks) raised again that i was surprised that the PSP wasn't seeing a game - but i have NOT predicted that there would be a PSP/VITA version for christmas. I only registered my surprise that there wasn't a game simply because it seems such a good earner (ON PSP - NO VITA VERSION)

lol - nice to see the 800k still trumps predicting MH3GHD - keep fucking those chickens, guys! ;)

I wonder when he'll show up here claiming Tri G HD Version won't cross 100k!
It's got a nice pack in deal, but it's -again- not going to set the world on fire. 400k-500k maybe? People are already looking to MH4 (which is going to clock in around 3million)

for the X billionth time , the logic behind the reason i predicted 800k was solid, it was just painfully wrong. Somehow this has been taken by "overinvested (?)" individuals as some sort of attack on the 3DS/"trolling the 3DS" - it was a sales prediction - it was wrong. That's the top and bottom of it. I frankly don't give a fuck if you all want to be wrong as fuck about my "motives". "BU BU BU YOU ARE A BIG VITA SUPPORTTTTEEER" blahblahblah etcetcetc
 

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Cheers, Cuddler. That's the list I've been looking for since the Bayo2 announcement. Damn! All came to fruition.
Yes, it's really interesting that they were all true. It's disappointing that we have nothing this year.
 

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400k-500k for a HD porting of a 3DS game, the third iteration of the same 3 year old game, on a new console, seems quite nice as a result, right?
it's perfect timing for the HD port as well (i.e. at launch) and the bundle will help. 400k-500k would be a fantastic return but i'd imagine those numbers should be doable between launch and March (this is JPN we are talking about of course)
 

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By the way, it's still too early to try to divine anything with any confidence - but Xillia 2 is starting to look more and more like FFXIII-2 based on comg. Maybe RE6 is stealing some of the preorder thunder and Xillia 2 will bounce back once RE6 is out - there's still time left - but it's facing a pretty steep drop compared to Xillia right now.
Japan is late but PS3 is approaching saturation in Japan. Most November and December releases will be solid sellers but with decline in sales. WE2012 is the next big test if that theory is correct or not. I see only RE6 escaping.
 

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Japan is late but PS3 is approaching saturation in Japan. Most November and December releases will be solid sellers but with decline in sales. WE2012 is the next big test if that theory is correct or not. I see only RE6 escaping.
At that price of course. But a relauch with lower price could help a lot.
 

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At that price of course. But a relauch with lower price could help a lot.
Price drops so late in this generation won't do many things. Wii was dead this year and PS3 didn't manage to take advantage of that. With Wii U as competitor in console market again things won't be easier.
 

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Where is this coming from? I said -since the start- there was NO Vita version coming but i said i was surprised that there was no PSP cash in. I (in the last few weeks) raised again that i was surprised that the PSP wasn't seeing a game - but i have NOT predicted that there would be a PSP/VITA version for christmas. I only registered my surprise that there wasn't a game simply because it seems such a good earner (ON PSP - NO VITA VERSION)

lol - nice to see the 800k still trumps predicting MH3GHD - keep fucking those chickens, guys! ;)



It's got a nice pack in deal, but it's -again- not going to set the world on fire. 400k-500k maybe? People are already looking to MH4 (which is going to clock in around 3million)

for the X billionth time , the logic behind the reason i predicted 800k was solid, it was just painfully wrong. Somehow this has been taken by "overinvested (?)" individuals as some sort of attack on the 3DS/"trolling the 3DS" - it was a sales prediction - it was wrong. That's the top and bottom of it. I frankly don't give a fuck if you all want to be wrong as fuck about my "motives". "BU BU BU YOU ARE A BIG VITA SUPPORTTTTEEER" blahblahblah etcetcetc
Oh please man. A sales prediction would have been calmly stating that you thought MH3G would do 800k. You shouted it loud from the rooftops and danced around screaming it for weeks and acted like you were certain so either you were trolling or overinvested
 

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[PS3] Tales of Xillia - between 377pt and 395pt
[PS3] Tales of Xilla 2 - 208pt

[PSP] SD Gundam G Generation World - 143pt (normal) + 71pt (collector) = 224pt
[PSP] SD Gundam G Generation Overworld - 235pt

[PS3] Resident Evil 5 - 409pt
[PS3] Resident Evil 6 - 552pt

[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2012 - 103pt
[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2013 - 70pt
 

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Wii U should be a monster in Japan from day 1. Mario, Nintendo Land, and Monster Hunter all day 1 with a monster hunter bundle planned?! Should have no problem sellingout in the motherland.
 

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At that price of course. But a relauch with lower price could help a lot.
Do Sony really have much room for a price cut though? Vita has tanked and is probably losing them boatloads of cash, the previously money making Japanese PSP market is slowing down rapidly, so Sony may see a cost reduced ps3 as a way to increase the margin rather than reduce the retail price
 

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At that price of course. But a relauch with lower price could help a lot.
They cut the price last year - the sales still continued to drop.
Sony can't afford cheap games that'll make them less money, they should just enjoy the sales they do get at the price of the PS3 atm.

A sales cut won't do anything to stop demand collapsing, and am not sure how you 'relaunch' a product 5 years in...

Based on last years price cut, they shouldn't cut it. The PS3 is dead with no next-gen yet, its not going to get better against WiiU just with a price cut.


Sony need PS4 ASAP; seriously, 2013 launch in Japan is a must for them.
Just from a short term POV, they need money and cash flow asap, but also to stop the WiiU getting a longer term advantage, they need to release quick.
 
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Wii U should be a monster in Japan from day 1. Mario, Nintendo Land, and Monster Hunter all day 1 with a monster hunter bundle planned?! Should have no problem sellingout in the motherland.
Moreover there is also Wii U fit, releasing allegedly in spring 2013, that could sell well, going by previous iterations; it's a title that passed unnoticed with MH3GHD, Bayonetta and all the stuff that have just been announced, still I gather it has big sales potential - along with NintendoLand - and may be one of Wii U's biggest sellers in the foreseeable future.
 

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Moreover there is also Wii U fit, releasing allegedly in spring 2013, that could sell well, going by previous iterations; it's a title that passed unnoticed with MH3GHD, Bayonetta and all the stuff that have just been announced, still I gather it has big sales potential - along with NintendoLand - and may be one of Wii U's biggest sellers in the foreseeable future.
Right. Obviously there are some unknowns, but NSMB U, NintendoLand, and Wii Fit U seem like likely million+ sellers all coming by March.

Pikmin could also do pretty well- it was a 500k seller on GameCube.

To my mind the 2 biggest wild cards right now are Monster Hunter 3G HD and DQ X.
 

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It definitely has a killer Japanese lineup for sure. Iterations of all 3 largest selling Japanese IP...
 

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Oh please man. A sales prediction would have been calmly stating that you thought MH3G would do 800k. You shouted it loud from the rooftops and danced around screaming it for weeks and acted like you were certain so either you were trolling or overinvested
Yes - because a thread on sales predictions should be like a fucking party at a morgue!

Short version : didn't think the 3DS was doing as well as people thought, didn't think Wii/Nintendo owners would care as much, PSP players wouldn't migrate en masse. Nothing particularly controversial - wrong as hell, but hey!
 

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At that price of course. But a relauch with lower price could help a lot.
I'm not sure that Sony will cut the price of the ps3 this year. I think the majority of people that are going to buy the Wii U are the same that already have a Wii. If you have noticed every major games on Wii U is a sequel/port of a game that is already on the Wii. The people that already have only a Ps3 or don't have a Wii I'm not sure that they will be interested in buying the Wii U in the first year.
Moreover there is also Wii U fit, releasing allegedly in spring 2013, that could sell well, going by previous iterations; it's a title that passed unnoticed with MH3GHD, Bayonetta and all the stuff that have just been announced, still I gather it has big sales potential - along with NintendoLand - and may be one of Wii U's biggest sellers in the foreseeable future.
Do you guys thinks that the Wii Fit market is still as big as it was back in the days?
 
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I'm not sure that Sony will cut the price of the ps3 this year. I think the majority of people that are going to buy the Wii U are the same that already have a Wii. If you have noticed every major games on Wii U is a sequel/port of a game that is already on the Wii. The people that already have only a Ps3 or don't have a Wii I'm not sure that they will be interested in buying the Wii U in the first year.
I would say DQ is a fairly big franchise coming to wii U that the wii never got (mainline games anyway). Pikmin was also never released for the wii. Nintendoland is a completely new game, even if it relies on established franchises.

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Mass effect, Bayonetta, Batman etc etc. were on Wii??
There is that as well :p.

I think the wii U will take away potential customers from both the wii and PS3 going forward.

Do you guys thinks that the Wii Fit market is still as big as it was back in the days?
I don't think there is any question that it isn't. It's still a fairly big title though.
 

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I'm not sure that Sony will cut the price of the ps3 this year. I think the majority of people that are going to buy the Wii U are the same that already have a Wii. If you have noticed every major games on Wii U is a sequel/port of a game that is already on the Wii. The people that already have only a Ps3 or don't have a Wii I'm not sure that they will be interested in buying the Wii U in the first year.

Do you guys thinks that the Wii Fit market is still as big as it was back in the days?
Wii fit u has the potential to be huge, being able to use it and exercise while still watching daytime TV will sell it to millions of housewives
 
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Do you guys thinks that the Wii Fit market is still as big as it was back in the days?
Neither Wii U fit nor Wii U sports have been fully unveiled, so we don't know what new features they're bringing, either way I think they both are probably going to sell decently at the very least in Japan if you ask me.
 

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I would say DQ is a fairly big franchise coming to wii U that the wii never got (mainline games anyway). Pikmin was also never released for the wii. Nintendoland is a completely new game, even if it relies on established franchises.

Edit:

There is that as well :p.

I think the wii U will take away potential customers from both the wii and PS3 going forward.



I don't think there is any question that it isn't. It's still a fairly big title though.
So there wasn't a mainline DQ released a few weeks ago on wii then?
 

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Its getting a bundle so that will boost the sales.
Unless that this box has a special box, i dont think that it will do that much extra for the sales. There isnt much savings to be had in that bundle (if anything at all), and it is also only for the premium WiiU console.
 

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So there wasn't a mainline DQ released a few weeks ago on wii then?
in name yes , in sales - no.

People know it's not a -traditional- DQ game though, ironically, it is - and a lot of fun too.
 

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Mass effect, Bayonetta, Batman etc etc. were on Wii??
But neither of them is a major game in Japan.
I would say DQ is a fairly big franchise coming to wii U that the wii never got (mainline games anyway). Pikmin was also never released for the wii. Nintendoland is a completely new game, even if it relies on established franchises.
DQ X is the same game that Wii already have, and if you are talking about a possible sequel I'm pretty sure that it will not be out in the first year, and it's possible that it will be on 3ds instead of Wii U.
I think the wii U will take away potential customers from both the wii and PS3 going forward.
I agree about the Wii, not sure about the Ps3, if people were interested in those third party games they will probably already have a Ps3 by now.
Wii fit u has the potential to be huge, being able to use it and exercise while still watching daytime TV will sell it to millions of housewives
Interesting feature, this can change a lot and make people upgrade to Wii Fit U.
I don't think there is any question that it isn't. It's still a fairly big title though.
Neither Wii U fit nor Wii U sports have been fully unveiled, so we don't know what new features they're bringing, either way I think they both are probably going to sell decently at the very least in Japan if you ask me.
I agree with both of you, I was just not sure about how many people will be interested in this type of games again. But I'm clearly out of the loop about fitness...:cough: :cough:
 

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in name yes , in sales - no.

People know it's not a -traditional- DQ game though, ironically, it is - and a lot of fun too.
This is wrong and you know it. Take the game for what it is, not what you want it to be.

I was also thinking, could this be Capcom's final strategy with Monster Hunter?? Making it be available on both a handheld AND a home console? Might that be the reason why they chose to continue the mainline entries on a handheld? I know 4 was announced as a 3DS title, but maybe whenever they release 4G, that'll be available on Wii U as well.

If what i'm thinking is to be true, then it's quite a smart move. Being able to play it on the go wherever you are, and if you're home and have nobody to play it with, you can just hop online, progress saves to both games. Best of both worlds imo.

We'll have to see if the japanese audience embraces this setup, but of course i very much doubt MH3GHD will give us that answer.
 

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This is wrong and you know it. Take the game for what it is, not what you want it to be.
He is right. The online games have never been seen as being on the same level as the other games. Same goes for Final Fantasy 11 and 14. These games arent seen as the next mainline FF games.
 

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It seems like a ps3 price cut would be much more effective outside japan than inside. Also a ps3 price cut would destroy vita
 

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This is wrong and you know it. Take the game for what it is, not what you want it to be.
Not sure what your point is here - i'm aware it's done well for an MMO but for a mainline DQ game it hasn't. as i said, the game is a mainline game, but it's also been hit with the MMO fallout. Game plays out like a regular DQ for a huge chunk of the proceedings.

If this was a full offline DQ game, do you think it would have sold the same numbers as it did ?

By who?certainly not by SE.
the game buying public? DQ9 sold over 2 million copies in -two- days. DQX was nowhere near that and i'm pretty sure that's to do with the game being marketted -heavily- as an MMO. (See also : FF11 vs FF10 sales figures). Mainline question aside, in terms of sales the MMO variants don't bring in the raw sales figures (though - especially with FF11 - it brought in more cash than any other FF to date i'd imagine)
 

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If I'm reading this post correctly...

Fred Dutton said:
Yes, I know we’ve all only just got Gamescom out of our systems but the next major gaming event is bearing down fast. Next Thursday, TGS gets underway at the cavernous Makuhari Messe in Tokyo, Japan. For the uninitiated, it’s generally a more low key affair than E3 or Gamescom - at least for Western gamers – but invariably throws up plenty of interesting news, especially for any would-be otakus out there.

The day before doors open, Sony Computer Entertainment Japan will be holding a press conference in downtown Tokyo from 5.00am BST (1.00pm Japan time). Unlike Gamescom, we won’t be hosting a livestream of the event, however, any earlybirds will be able to read about all the key announcements right here on the PlayStation Blog after the show finishes. What’s more, I’ll be on the ground live-Tweeting proceedings via @PlayStationEU.
...we finally have a date/time for Sony's TGS conference: 1PM JST on Wednesday, or midnight EDT on Tuesday. The absence of a livestream does not inspire optimism, but it should be interesting one way or another.
 

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I wonder if sony would dare to bundle the Vita with the Ps3 stateside. With a price drop for both Vita and Ps3, $200 each...Hmmmm
 

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I wonder if sony would dare to bundle the Vita with the Ps3 stateside. With a price drop for both Vita and Ps3, $200 each...Hmmmm
This could be an interesting strategy if every PS3 game could be played on Vita so the Vita literally was a portable PS3. I think it would actually be doing much better. As it stands I can't see many people that would want to drop that kind of cash for both at the same time.
 

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Chances are DQX might end up being the most profitable DQ game to date just as FF11 was the most profitable FF.
Indeed - which is why i said :

Mainline question aside, in terms of sales the MMO variants don't bring in the raw sales figures (though - especially with FF11 - it brought in more cash than any other FF to date i'd imagine)
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in name yes , in sales - no.

This could be an interesting strategy if every PS3 game could be played on Vita so the Vita literally was a portable PS3. I think it would actually be doing much better. As it stands I can't see many people that would want to drop that kind of cash for both at the same time.
the Vita target market is seemingly pretty damned narrow. :/
 

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If I'm reading this post correctly...

...we finally have a date/time for Sony's TGS conference: 1PM JST on Wednesday, or midnight EDT on Tuesday. The absence of a livestream does not inspire optimism, but it should be interesting one way or another.
Is there usually one at TGS?
Its maybe more to do with it being Japanese than anything else, allows them to control the information in english press releases after/during.

But am not expecting much 'new'.
 

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Is there usually one at TGS?
Its maybe more to do with it being Japanese than anything else, allows them to control the information in english press releases after/during.

But am not expecting much 'new'.
There was a livestream for the Vita conference last year. I remember because it was the conference where everyone was expecting MH4 Vita. Also FFXHD got announced there.
 

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This could be an interesting strategy if every PS3 game could be played on Vita so the Vita literally was a portable PS3. I think it would actually be doing much better. As it stands I can't see many people that would want to drop that kind of cash for both at the same time.
Well there is the Wii U...
 

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I'm not sure that Sony will cut the price of the ps3 this year. I think the majority of people that are going to buy the Wii U are the same that already have a Wii. If you have noticed every major games on Wii U is a sequel/port of a game that is already on the Wii. The people that already have only a Ps3 or don't have a Wii I'm not sure that they will be interested in buying the Wii U in the first year.

Do you guys thinks that the Wii Fit market is still as big as it was back in the days?
They will. It's pretty much confirmed that with new slimmer model they will also make price cut. New Slim model was supposed to be shown in Gamescom but because of high stock levels of current model they postponed it. They will probably unveil it in TGS.