Media Create Sales: Week 44, 2014 (Oct 27 - Nov 02)

sörine

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I think it could well be the first (and maybe only one?) game to reach 1m without a bundle, in Japan.
Sure but MK8 would've hit a million on it's own eventually anyway. It's 700k now, still doing 3-4k weekly, has key DLC promo opportunities and has it's first holiday season still ahead of it. Even without the bundle I think it'd have been somewhere near 850-900k by year's end.

NSMBU wouldn't have crossed a million without bundling though.
 

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Marvelous results through Q2 (April - Sept 2014)


  • Online Game Business (mobile + browser): 6.12 billion yen revenue, 1.12 billion yen operating profit.
  • Consumer Game Business (handheld + console + arcade): 3.43 billion yen revenue, 0.41 billion yen operating profit.
  • Audio & Visual Business: 1.84 billion yen revenue, 0.43 billion yen operating profit.
  • Adjustments & eliminations: -5 million yen revenue, -0.51 billion yen operating loss.
Overall
  • 11.39 billion yen revenue (+18.8%)
  • 1.45 billion yen operating profit (+6.2%)
  • 0.93 billion yen net profit (+8.6%)
http://pdf.irpocket.com/C7844/XN1V/H5sN/V7mM.pdf
 

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Thanks! We'll see the bumps that smash bros edition and Pokemon ORAS make then but for now I'm saying it again: these are "not so good" numbers for the 3DS.
the problem is Nintendo has been pushed a lot the n3DS and its covers, but the audience is clearly choosing the n3DS LL

they should stop selling the OG models and stock more n3DS LL, actually 4 different models on the market is a little confusing


about the difference from last year, I would like to wait the end of this month, last year 3DS didn't sell so well in November, but this year the Smash bundle and Pokemon are coming, so sales could change from Nov.2013
 
Marvelous results through Q2 (April - Sept 2014)


  • Online Game Business (mobile + browser): 6.12 billion yen revenue, 1.12 billion yen operating profit.
  • Consumer Game Business (handheld + console + arcade): 3.43 billion yen revenue, 0.41 billion yen operating profit.
  • Audio & Visual Business: 1.84 billion yen revenue, 0.43 billion yen operating profit.
  • Adjustments & eliminations: -5 million yen revenue, -0.51 billion yen operating loss.
Overall
  • 11.39 billion yen revenue (+18.8%)
  • 1.45 billion yen operating profit (+6.2%)
  • 0.93 billion yen net profit (+8.6%)
http://pdf.irpocket.com/C7844/XN1V/H5sN/V7mM.pdf
Looking at App Annie, their only game in the top 100 is Jianto mo Fanoroguresu Inishieno which is currently at #14 and spends most of its time in the 10-20 range, but has gotten short spikes up to #3.

I'm unsure how their browser games perform.

Edit:

I forgot to shift to the same time period.

It was doing a fair bit worse in July, and a little worse in August and September, so it will presumably be making even more now.
 

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sörine;137453551 said:
NSMBU wouldn't have crossed a million without bundling though.
Are you sure? Vinnk said his students were hyped for NSMBU more than 3D World. I say it would have done well in its second holiday even without the bundle. Even though it wouldn't have reached one million so fast, it surely would have by the end of the generation.

Nintendo should not do any special bundles (at least none including MK8 or SSB4) for Wii U, just to spite people and prove MK8 can make 1 million without being bundled. Of course it will take longer but multiplayer ensures those Nintendo evergreen legs.

Same for SSB4. I'm sure it will do well enough but the 3DS version will help to delay some U version sales until next year, giving it a longer lasting effect. Quality creates good word of mouth and people will keep considering upgrading to the better version.
 

sörine

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Are you sure? Vinnk said his students were hyped for NSMBU more than 3D World. I say it would have done well in its second holiday even without the bundle. Even though it wouldn't have reached one million so fast, it surely would have by the end of the generation.

Nintendo should not do any special bundles (at least none including MK8 or SSB4) for Wii U, just to spite people and prove MK8 can make 1 million without being bundled. Of course it will take longer but multiplayer ensures those Nintendo evergreen legs.

Same for SSB4. I'm sure it will do well enough but the 3DS version will help to delay some U version sales until next year, giving it a longer lasting effect. Quality creates good word of mouth and people will keep considering upgrading to the better version.
It might've crawled there maybe with a renewed ad campaign, or maybe a new SKU package in including NSLU, but I don't think it's a sure thing.

Personally I still think SM3DW and Just Dance U should've been this year's family bundle.
 
Why did Wii U move 38,000 units this time last year? SM3DW?
Pretty sure it was the new bundles.

The new 3DS seems to be slowing down somewhat. I guess it was unrealistic to think it would stay near 100k until the holidays start.
I'm not sure why I didn't see it before, but that just made me notice that the Wii U is tracking a fair bit behind last year's YTD.
 

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So I guess that after Xmas/New Year 3DS sales will be worse than this years? I wonder how Nintendo will react to that :/
 
So I guess that after Xmas/New Year 3DS sales will be worse than this years? I wonder how Nintendo will react to that :/
That's pretty much been the core question leading up to launch (and still ongoing), right?

Will the New 3DS actually be able to float the 3DS to stronger numbers (or at least sustained ones), or will it simply be a transient boost for the holiday season?

My proposal has generally been that if it is a transient boost, then it makes having released the N3DS less attractive than going all in on getting a new system out sooner, but to avoid dragging people through the same discussion until we see how the system pans out, I'll wait until sometime in January to really weigh in heavily on the cost/benefit of this decision.
 

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The New 3DS seems like a bandage honestly until they can get a successor out. Something tells me Nintendo doesn't (or shouldn't rather) expect total sustainability.
 

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That's pretty much been the core question leading up to launch (and still ongoing), right?

Will the New 3DS actually be able to float the 3DS to stronger numbers (or at least sustained ones), or will it simply be a transient boost for the holiday season?

My proposal has generally been that if it is a transient boost, then it makes having released the N3DS less attractive than going all in on getting a new system out sooner, but to avoid dragging people through the same discussion until we see how the system pans out, I'll wait until sometime in January to really weigh in heavily on the cost/benefit of this decision.
At the very least, I think the idea that they push plans for a successor if they were trying to stall past 2016 will be over soon.

Also I don't know if Wii U will be able to make up the gap this year. The bundles aren't that great and I don't know if Smash will have a huge effect. If that's the case than it would mean last year would most likely be the highest selling year of this console's lifespan which would be crazy.
 

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New 3DS isn't holding up as it should. It'll be interesting to see next week what the Smash branded edition will do, though.

Miserable week in general.
 

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Wow ... if Sunset Overdrive falls in the woods and no-one is around to hear it, does it makes a sound?

I thought for sure that would move some Xbox Ones that week.
 

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Wow, Sunset Overdrive almost sold to 50% of Xbox One, the All-in-One Entertaintment System owners. But it seems to be not a system seller with HW numbers still trending downward and being handily beaten by the Playstation TV.

The SW numbers outside of MH are kind of depressing. Seems like nothing is selling.
 

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This week might be the low for the end year period. I think each week from now on should have general increases in hardware and software.
 

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I don't think there's much concern of it being seen as a failure.

It's more a question of whether or not the N3DS will change the overall trend of the system in a major way in the mid-term.
N3DS will not change the overall trend of the system games could do that
 

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Looks like the PS4 won't reach one million sales this year. Pretty sad.

Unless there's some upcoming megaton game I forgot about.
 

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Jeez, this Media Create thread is waaay quieter than usual. I guess everything's so depressing/dead that people don't even have the energy to make jokes at the expense of specific platforms, anymore.
 

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I don't think there's much concern of it being seen as a failure.

It's more a question of whether or not the N3DS will change the overall trend of the system in a major way in the mid-term.
I think it depends on what kind of software interest it generates. I think the surprise announcement of Ace Combat rerelease might be a sign that Nintendo is trying to reignite developer interest in the platform. I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo tries to get at least one western franchise on N3DS as well(I'm thinking a new portable COD if anything). I might be giving Nintendo too much credit though and Bamco just randomly decided to update a three year old game.
 

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Jeez, this Media Create thread is waaay quieter than usual. I guess everything's so depressing/dead that people don't even have the energy to make jokes at the expense of specific platforms, anymore.
The only real thing of interest to me was how low XB1 can go and the Onechanbara sales.

It's a shame we don't have the Wii version sales, because I consider that the best in the kusoge series for how much content it had.
 

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1 day before it releases? Doesn't the console release in December and the game in February?
I was talking about the download code. Dragon Quest: Heroes will be released on Feb. 26 and, IIRC, the code allows to download DQ: H on Feb. 25.
 

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Looks like we got some announcements and some new dates for 3DS software from this direct.

Etrian Odyssey Untold 2 - 11/27
Attack on Titan 2 (is this Chain?) - 12/4
Atelier Roronoa 3DS - 2015
Lost Heroes 2 - 2015
Kenka Banchou 6 - Jan 2015
SMT: Devil Survivor 2 Break Record - 1/29/2015
Ace Combat 3D Cross Rumble+ - 1/29/2015
Majora's Mask 3D - Spring 2015
 

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A bunch of reductive 3DS games announced.

Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Legacy Plus - January 29

3DS : Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Legacy ( Bandai Namco ) { 2012-01-12 } - 11,322 / 39,129


Lost Heroes 2 - February 5

3DS : Lost Heroes ( Bandai Namco ) { 2012-09-06 } - 30,472 / 50,397
PSP : Lost Heroes ( Bandai Namco ) { 2012-09-06 } - 15,066 / 29,698


Atelier Rorona - 2015

PSV : Atelier Rorona Plus: The Alchemist of Arland ( Gust ) { 2013-11-21 } - 17,547 / 17,547
PS3 : Atelier Rorona Plus: The Alchemist of Arland ( Gust ) { 2013-11-21 } - 15,575 / 15,575
PS3 : Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland [Playstation 3 the Best 2nd Print] ( Gust ) { 2012-05-31 } - - / 7,959
PS3 : Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland [Playstation 3 the Best] ( Gust ) { 2010-09-23 } - 4,186 / 8,617
PS3 : Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland ( Gust ) { 2009-06-25 } - 47,456 / 75,063
 

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Looks like we got some announcements and some new dates for 3DS software from this direct.

Etrian Odyssey Untold 2 - 11/27 -> known
Attack on Titan 2 (is this Chain?) - 12/4 -> known
Atelier Roronoa 3DS - 2015
Lost Heroes 2 - 2015
Kenka Banchou 6 - Jan 2015
SMT: Devil Survivor 2 Break Record - 1/29/2015 -> known
Ace Combat 3D Cross Rumble+ - 1/29/2015
Majora's Mask 3D - Spring 2015
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metalslimer

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Definitely seems like Nintendo's 3DS output is coming to a close. What do we have announced as of now?

Majora's Mask
Xenoblade
Steam

I'm sure we will get a couple of more games announce though
 

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So I guess that after Xmas/New Year 3DS sales will be worse than this years? I wonder how Nintendo will react to that :/
You've done many wrong guesses before and I don't know how you got to that before we see December sales.
 

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So does Atelier being on Nintendo consoles once again means they're testing what sales could look like in a Vita-less future?
Or just getting more sales everywhere since Iwata might have convinced 3rd parties the 3DS audience is large and varied enough?