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Media Create Sales: Week 5, 2015 (Jan 26 - Feb 01)
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Right. If we include spinoffs then DQ Monsters as well. Also things like Kingdom Hearts or Fire Emblem if we delve into subgenres.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Not really a beta release. I was saying that Tales of Zestiria will just include a future arc like Graces coming almost a year later. Lot of games do this in, in fact I would say fans would jump on that quickly if Alisha's character progression is rectified.
The DLC scenario already seems to be taking place after the main game...
I feel like the Vita will be dropping a lot this year so the PS4 should regularly be in 2nd witht the games it has.
About coming up to Wii U, catching up sometime in 2016 isn't exactly an out-there prediction imo.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Really?
Welp. I don't know what Namco can do to rectify this situation then. Maybe one day we will learn why they did it.
Lmao holy shit, I have no idea how I posted that in this thread.
Layton 7 says hiya
I stand corrected, I was probably misled by stats that used calendar year.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
Money. Why else? I mean, they're even doing pre-order mystic artes now.
It still has the end result of telling people "Don't buy the first version", which could negatively affect future entries.
I'm not sure it's actually that uncommon at this point.
Usually they're a bit truncated, but not super truncated.
Of course, a fair amount of that is often testing in a small market and slowly adjusting things based on user feedback.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
So they specifically marketed Alicia as a important character to make people like her, way before the release, so that they could make money from the DLC that involved her, which was planned to be released right after the game's launch.
I would of thought my way would of made more money and would of not have had such a bad reaction.
1 year is a suitable amount of time to stop that notion, especially now that we get a Tales nearly every year.
It's the kind of thing you can get away with if you have goodwill, but I don't think it would go well if it's an effort to "fix" a game. It's playing with fire.
It's probably best to move on to the next game.
bigmit3737
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Prophane33
Member
Say what you will, but Dragon Quest: Heroes should have been a PS4 exclusive. I'm sure it will sell well, but I (and many people) pre-ordered the PS3 version (same with DB:Xenoverse). I refuse to upgrade until there are more exclusive games. VERY curious to see how the sales figures compare on the two versions though.
RisesRises
Banned
If you want Phil Spencer on the phone, please call 222
I really don't think a remake would be all that well received from the current Bamco in this situation.
That's basically what they said in a recent interview in addition to the fact that the Tales team is a lot smaller than it used to be so we probably won't be seeing a crazy amount of remakes like we're use to.
That's basically what they said in a recent interview in addition to the fact that the Tales team is a lot smaller than it used to be so we probably won't be seeing a crazy amount of remakes like we're use to.
Im very curious to see the effect of the ps3/vita over the sales of the ps4 versions. When people list the upcoming games, theres no doubt its a great lineup, but most of it is also coming on the ps3 or vita or both.
The ps4 already had a couple of multiplatfor big japanese games and nome of them resulted in higher sales and in most of the cases, the audience just got divided. I think DQ heroes is the first title that can actually have some nice sales across both consoles. I've got no hope for the other titles at all.
Well the thing is the PS4 is the one leeching titles from PS3 and Vita, not the other way around. Especially in regards to stuff like God Eater and Toukiden.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
PS4 SKU in such cases was probably added for Western sales. Its a good decision but lets see how it turns out.
That's true but I mean in the sense that if only one of the SKUs existed I doubt it would be the PS4 one. I am also curious to see how those game do on PS4, both in Japan and the west.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
8/10
MasterSheen
Member
wow DS2 did pretty good
To a degree but then DQH is evidently still undecided for the west?
My estimate is that PS3 will easily outsell the PS4 version but the PS4 version will become the best selling PS4 game in Japan (excluding Knack)
small44
Member
On Comgnet store the ps3 version pre-order is ahead of ps4 version so i don't think it's a good thing for square enix to make it exclusive to ps4
KillerMan91
Member
Well the whole project smells like small moneyhat from Sony so in case of it being only on PS4 Sony would have had to pay more for lost sales of PS3 version. I guess they didn't want to.
BishopLamont
Banned
i knew something was off with what you said
ps4 took 45 weeks http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=967319
psv took 43 weeks http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495080
SnowFlakeCake
Member
PS4 will beat Wii U sales but don't think it will be this year. Can't think of any big guns for Wii U that have yet to release but it's the opposite case for PS4 where no big game I can think of has released. Dragon Quest and MGS V weeks for example should see big boosts in PS4 sales, I can't see MGS V week not having PS4 sales being at least 70k+. Hope Persona 5 does well for Atlus, the game has been in development for a very long time now.
It is indeed very hard to tell.
You have a few big retailers that comprise a lot of the market.
I remember Media Create saying the Top 10 had like 52%.
And it makes sense, considering their influence. Yamada Denki (ヤマダ電機has 960 retail stores, and the vast majority of those sell video games.
Geo has 1,234 retail stores that sell new video games.
Tsutaya has 584 retail stores that sell new video games.
etc.
I've come across the 30,000 total video game stores number:
But I don't know how to relate it to the 3,600 stores figure.
For example, Famitsu + Media Create track Tsutaya. But I don't know if the 3,600 Famitsu / 3,000 Media Create figures count Tsutaya as 1 "store" (retailer), or if they count Tsutaya as 584 individual stores.
Not all Tsutaya stores sell videogames.
Tsutaya stores also sell CD and DVD and some shops are just specialited in these two articles, not selling videogames.
Aquamarine
Member
Indeed. Media Create + Famitsu only track the 584 Tsutaya stores that sell new video games, not the 822 Tsutaya stores that don't.
Getting really tired of seeing this blanket statement trotted out here to dismiss any complaints directed towards
the Alisha DLC
I don't even care that much about the character. What I do care about is that Tales games have been having more and more content ripped out of them and put out as DLC. And now they're having an entire DLC chapter devoted to a character
that was marketed in a misleading manner, with even the game Tales of Asteria listing Alisha as the heroine of ToZ until recently.
The DLC being free for a short period doesn't excuse it either, in my opinion.
We're talking about Amazon Japan users here, and they were giving the game bad scores before the DLC info came out. So no, the waifu talk is pretty accurate. Not to say Namco didn't do a bad job in marketing Alisha's true role in the game, but Zestiria is obviously not a 1-star game.
Most people who buy Tales games in Japan buy it in the first week. The DLC is coming out on the 13th, so nearly all of them will have access to the Alisha DLC for free during the time period. You wanted more Alisha, you got it.
Holy crap...I forgot that was even a thing.
I mentioned this last thread already but to explain it in more detail: 1300 yen without retailer's cut, cost for pressing discs, keeping stock, logistics etc. is a lot. And Bamco get that from most second hand buyers as well, because few would pass on such an important part of the game.
If you buy a lot of games and need to save money, you will rely on the second hand market. That is the reason why most single player core games collapse in the second week, because by then already used copies turn up in stores. Since rentals are prohibited in Japan the used market took its place.
Multiplayer (or other long term enjoyable content) and DLC are the best tools to combat lost profits from the used market. A second version for PS4, even if it sold as well as PS3 ports (and we know it wouldn't even be close), would only about double the original sales. I'm pretty sure on the used market the factor of additional players is significantly higher so they try to translate that to DLC downloads.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Hopefully the game is scrapped and Capcom is now working on a proper sequel for Breath of Fire.
I think it is a bit worrying that Namco keeps making mistakes that turn off some of their fans with Tales series. Market is not in a situation that may allow them to make mistakes now and recover later.
The series have many dedicated fans and judging by the historical sales, sell mostly to their established fanbase. If the recent mistakes drive away part of their fanbase, it might become unrecoverable even if they make a great Tales game in the future.
The series have many dedicated fans and judging by the historical sales, sell mostly to their established fanbase. If the recent mistakes drive away part of their fanbase, it might become unrecoverable even if they make a great Tales game in the future.
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[PSV] Gakuen Heaven: Boy's Love Scramble! <ADV> (Prototype) (¥5.940)
[PS4] Samurai Warriors 4-II # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥7.344)
[PS4] Samurai Warriors 4-II (Treasure Box) <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥12.744)
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