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[jamesinclair]

20k for a Xbox360 title isnt bad at all.

Maybe people comfused it for Pokemon?

We need a new prediction thread for X360 sales for next week. Ill be bold and say 2,014



With the origianl Xbox hitting 13 for no reason at all.

 

[hydragonwarrior]

Pure gold :lol

some quotes pre-Nintendogs

What Eddz said, more quotes please

 

[LanceStern]

Pure gold :lol

some quotes pre-Nintendogs

Those quotes make me laugh, but at the same time upset me at how trollish/stupid they were. I hope they feel like idiots

 

[Blütnerd]

From the first week of BT:

Holy crap the Brain Training game sold 43k!! Wow!

The beginning!

 

[JohnsonUT]

From the first week of BT:


The beginning!

If only we knew then...

 

[typhonsentra]

People need to stop getting worked up over every Japanese release. There really doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason as to what the next "Megaton" DS game will be in Japan. Of course those sales are still incredibly high, but people thinking there'd be an instant sellout were being silly. Nintendo knew how much they'd have to make.

 

[Cosmonaut X]

A little bit early, perhaps, but let me show you my Pokemans chart; my Pokemans chart, let me show you it:

 

[MrSardonic]

People need to stop getting worked up over every Japanese release. There really doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason as to what the next "Megaton" DS game will be in Japan. Of course those sales are still incredibly high, but people thinking there'd be an instant sellout were being silly. Nintendo knew how much they'd have to make.

for ****s sake

 

[jj984jj]

A little bit early, perhaps, but let me show you my Pokemans chart; my Pokemans chart, let me show you it:

That's a great chart.

 

[elostyle]

So which one should it beat to be considered a big success? Ruby&Saphire?

 

[AniHawk]

So which one should it beat to be considered a big success? Ruby&Saphire?

Yes

 

[Galactic Fork]

So which one should it beat to be considered a big success? Ruby&Saphire?

Red/Blue/Green. Anything else, complete bomb.

 

[Earthstrike]

Yes

But it has to beat it by a large margin.
I'd say > 6.5 million is required for success.

 

[elostyle]

But it has to beat it by a large margin.
I'd say > 6.5 million is required for success.

That'd be like 50% penetration at this point...

 

[Tadaima]

That'd be like 50% penetration at this point...

Yeah, but look at how many DSes Pokemon is pushing off shelves.

 

[kisakiproject]

20k for a Xbox360 title isnt bad at all.

Maybe people comfused it for Pokemon?

We need a new prediction thread for X360 sales for next week. Ill be bold and say 2,014



With the origianl Xbox hitting 13 for no reason at all.

Thats fantastic for a 360 title. 5.5k Projecy Sylphseed first day #s suck. I'm gonna go out on a limba nd guess 5,000 for 360 hardware this coming week.

Given first week day first week usualls for 360. I'm guessing 27K first week fore Dead rising, which would put it at #4 or 5 sales wise for 360 software in Japan. Sylpsheeed is probably gonna be about 8K.

 

[cvxfreak]

A little bit early, perhaps, but let me show you my Pokemans chart; my Pokemans chart, let me show you it:

You're using the wrong Venusaur artwork for FireRed/LeafGreen.

 

[CreatureX3]

But I don't know what else Nintendo can release at this point. Today is going to be THE high point of the DS's lifespan.

Sequels with wifi of course!

Brain Age Wifi
Big Brain Academy Wifi
New Super Mario Bros. 2 Wifi
Wario Ware Touched 2 Wifi

 

[Cosmonaut X]

You're using the wrong Venusaur artwork for FireRed/LeafGreen.

Hush yourself or I'll set my Pokemans on you ;-)

 

[Jiggy]

That'd be like 50% penetration at this point...

Ordinarily this is where I'd say "well, if people buy two versions of the game then it's a two-to-one software-to-hardware ratio, which helps," but then I remember the pictures of all the people playing their DSes while standing in line to buy DS Lites and realize that maybe that particular argument won't mean much this time around.

But I don't know what else Nintendo can release at this point. Today is going to be THE high point of the DS's lifespan.

Gold/Silver remakes.
After all, in Diamond/Pearl,

Spoiler

one of the Johto gym leaders

shows up to give you an item at one point, and there are all those unresolved tie-in plot points from FR/LG...
Although, yeah, I guess it's true that that wouldn't outdo D/P. So how about Mushroom Kingdom Hearts?

 

[Chris Michael]

So how about Mushroom Kingdom Hearts?

yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes

I know this makes me a totally obsessed nerd but I was thinking about this alot yesterday. Not just FF characters + Nintendo characters... Squaresoft characters + Nintendo characters + Enix characters. I swear this game would sell HUGE in Japan, especially on the DS, and it would be the best fanservice EVER!!!! And they could get rid of the stupid keyblades - instead they could use actual swords from DQ, FF, and Nintendo series. Like Falchion from Fire Emblem, Master Sword from Zelda, Buster sword from FFVII, Gunblade from FFVIII, and oh so much more. And instead of playing like KH I'd like it to be a Zelda ripoff, with equipment and puzzles and such. But they could keep the summons (oh man oh man there'd be so many summons... examples would be Bahamut, some of Yuna's summons, Judgment/Catastrophe from Golden Sun, Legendary POKEMANZ, omgomgomgomg). I WANT TO MAKE THIS GAME. :'<

ok I'll stfu now. !!!!

 

[jarrod]

X360
Deadly Rising - 20k (82%)
Project Sylpheed - 5.5k (42%)

PSP
The Legend of Hero VI - 9k (56%)

Poor GameArts & Falcom. Dunno why they even bother really... if only there was a willing SEGA console on market for them. :/

20k for Dead Rising under it Z-rated circumstances is pretty great I'd say though.

 

[Ikael]

Just search for Monorojo & Drinky Crow's quotes. Pure gold. I remember one from Drinky about "crying bitter Nintendo fanboy tears while lining for Mario Renaissance for the 360". Worst GAF analyst ever!

 

[Moor-Angol]

Sequels with wifi of course!

Brain Age Wifi
Big Brain Academy Wifi
New Super Mario Bros. 2 Wifi
Wario Ware Touched 2 Wifi

JSS with more characters and wifi enabled

ops... this really exists


anyway, Wario Ware multiplayer is only for home console, same things could happen for Big Brain Academy, Wii version announced with multiplayer support


next million sellers on the way for DS ?

Osharemajo Love & Belly
JSS 2
DQM:J
Sangokushi Taisen

 

[Dalthien]

What Eddz said, more quotes please

Here are several more quotes from some of GAF's more well-known posters. There are literally hundreds of quotes like these. The majority of GAF was convinced that the PSP would steamroll the DS and leave Nintendo a broken shell of a company. Sonycowboy was in especially rare form. He usually tries to remain at least partially neutral, but the certainty of the PSP dominance just pushed him over the edge.

From Oct 29/04

I think it's clear to all of us that Nintendo will eventually be forced out of the hardware business. They shouldn't lose money to stop that from happening. It's inevitable. Sony's PSP agrressiveness just underlines that. R&D is getting increasingly expensive and Nintendo doesn't appear to have the resources to keep up. If they want to continue on like Apple has, they can be a pretty profitable company, but there days as #1 are far behind them in the console arena and within the next 5-10 years, at most, that will be true of portable gaming as well.

From Dec 11/04

Put the PSP next to the DS in the eyes of a customer and you can bury the DS the next day. The DS started very well, but so did the Dreamcast.

The DS, IMHO, was a knee jerk reaction to the PSP and is sloppy all the way down the board. The launch titles between the two systems are night and day. The DS couldn't even sell 1-1 software to hardware.

The PSP is over a generation ahead in terms of technology and is going to wipe the floor with the DS.

I completely respect Nintendo as a software company, but as far as hardware is concerned, they are a sheep lost in the woods, and Sony is coming home to grandma's house (how's that for mixed literary allusions? )

The DS will sell decently for 6-12 months, but it's so far behind the PSP, customers are going to jump ship.

From Dec 12/04

really sony won this in the design phase when their ambition so outstripped nintendo's. and they sealed that when they set such an agressive launch price. all that's left is to watch it play out. the psp and the ds are going to sit next to one another in shops, and that direct comparison won't be at all flattering to ds.

probably the relevant question now is whether nintendo should get out of software as well. given the example of mario 64 ds, it seems nintendo aren't even competent curators of their own faded legacy. they can't understand what makes mario 64 good, let alone develop new games to rival it. i hear nintendo used to make lovely playing cards. everyone likes playing cards.

Ah, the sweet, sweet desperation of Nintendo fans. Sony's willing to take the hit to give us gamers $500 worth of hardware for $200. THAT'S what we as consumers want from companies -- not dated, 1997-era technology repackaged with an extra low-res screen and a stylus. The DS might as well be stillborn. Once it saturates the hardcore Nintendo fanbase, it'll trickle off into irrelevance and OH HOW I'LL LAFF.

PSP vs DS is gonna become the NEW analogy of choice for demonstrating Nintendo incompetence.

By the time the current GBA audience is ready to upgrade their newly-purchased SPs, the PSP will be a legitimate phenomenon, and the DS pulpiteers will still be cruising the local EBs vainly looking for Pictochat partners.

From Dec 13/04

Square Enix already has a game for the PSP and word is that quite a few more are to follow. I fully expect SE to be completely behind PSP in short order. They were concerned about a number of things, but with the news over the past 6 months and Sony's backburning of UMD movies and music (for the most part) over the next year or so, I think those concerns have been addressed.

In the next 2 years, which system do you believe will recieve the majority of SE's attention / new announcements?

It's like putting Claudia Shiffer next to Kirstie Alley. She might have been decent in her time (especially in Star Trek 2 , but now ...

Where's Elmo now? :lol
Cabbage Patch Kids?
DS = 15 minutes in the sun.

Yes, only the DS moves MUCH faster than the Pokemon franchise! It will only take months to die out, rather than decades!

From July 22/05

I'm surprised people think the DS will split with the PSP in Europe. Especially when GBA does the worst in Europe. While from everything I read Playstation all owns Europe. I expect the PSP to beat the DS handily in Europe. Japan may be close to a near 50/50 split by the time everything is done. DS should do OK in NA too, but the PSP is going to overtake this year and won't look back. I can see perhaps a 60/40 or 65/35 PSP advantage share in NA over time. The nice thing about this is you can see Nintendos dominant hold on the portable empire is over.

 

[lyre]

Someone find vireland's quote as well. That's always good for a laugh.

 

[elostyle]

I said wow.

 

[Vic]

Square Enix already has a game for the PSP and word is that quite a few more are to follow. I fully expect SE to be completely behind PSP in short order.

:lol

 

[AdmiralViscen]

Here are several more quotes from some of GAF's more well-known posters. There are literally hundreds of quotes like these. The majority of GAF was convinced that the PSP would steamroll the DS and leave Nintendo a broken shell of a company. Sonycowboy was in especially rare form. He usually tries to remain at least partially neutral, but the certainty of the PSP dominance just pushed him over the edge.

And now the party line is that the DS was always known to be a success, because it inherited the GBA's success.

 

[osyrus]

those quotes are 24k gold! :lol

 

[LanceStern]

DS be a monster. A monster I tells ya!

 

[LanceStern]

Here are several more quotes from some of GAF's more well-known posters. There are literally hundreds of quotes like these. The majority of GAF was convinced that the PSP would steamroll the DS and leave Nintendo a broken shell of a company. Sonycowboy was in especially rare form. He usually tries to remain at least partially neutral, but the certainty of the PSP dominance just pushed him over the edge.

From Oct 29/04


From Dec 11/04


From Dec 12/04




From Dec 13/04




From July 22/05

I never saw sonycowboy not only so partial, but so wrong as well :lol :lol :lol

To be fair and observant though, he covered himself by saying 5-10 years for Nintendo's dominance destruction. But completely missed it how DS would only sell for a year and then die off and be left a waste compared to PSP.

I ROFL at them all

 

[Souldriver]

While at the time they seemed like sincere estimations, some of these quotes just sound like bad troll attemps now.

 

[Oxx]

:lol

There needs to be a whole thread dedicated entirely to those kind of quotes.

 

[Saoh]

Here are several more quotes from some of GAF's more well-known posters. There are literally hundreds of quotes like these. The majority of GAF was convinced that the PSP would steamroll the DS and leave Nintendo a broken shell of a company. Sonycowboy was in especially rare form. He usually tries to remain at least partially neutral, but the certainty of the PSP dominance just pushed him over the edge.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

gold

 

[fly high ~ayunite~]

Square Enix already has a game for the PSP and word is that quite a few more are to follow. I fully expect SE to be completely behind PSP in short order. They were concerned about a number of things, but with the news over the past 6 months and Sony's backburning of UMD movies and music (for the most part) over the next year or so, I think those concerns have been addressed.

In the next 2 years, which system do you believe will recieve the majority of SE's attention / new announcements?

It's like putting Claudia Shiffer next to Kirstie Alley. She might have been decent in her time (especially in Star Trek 2 , but now ...

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Can't wait to see what quotes will be uncovered in two years time.

 

[Link]

Someone find vireland's quote as well. That's always good for a laugh.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1128502&postcount=43

GBA was looked at, but there's still just too much risk with cart format stuff. Yes, the lead times have come down closer to disc based media, but it's still too long for a small niche pub like us. Therefore, no GBA or DS stuff from us.

Another factor (as I already posted in our threads at www.workingdesigns.com a while ago) is that I firmly now believe that the DS is indeed stillborn. I wanted to like it, but Nintendo's making it really, really hard. I'm keeping one system to play Goemon and Castlevania DS, and that's about it. My kids have moved on to PSP and are selling their DS machines, as I imagine many will once they experience the sexiness and functionality of the PSP.

Those poor kids must be so disappointed right now.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

And now the party line is that the DS was always known to be a success, because it inherited the GBA's success.

Spin spin spin! You gotta love those guys.

 

[elostyle]

How about

Steve Kent's 7 rules by which nintendo would be out of businees by now?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31053

 

[chadums90]

really sony won this in the design phase when their ambition so outstripped nintendo's. and they sealed that when they set such an agressive launch price. all that's left is to watch it play out. the psp and the ds are going to sit next to one another in shops, and that direct comparison won't be at all flattering to ds.

probably the relevant question now is whether nintendo should get out of software as well. given the example of mario 64 ds, it seems nintendo aren't even competent curators of their own faded legacy. they can't understand what makes mario 64 good, let alone develop new games to rival it. i hear nintendo used to make lovely playing cards. everyone likes playing cards.

Oh, platitudes and verbosity. They can make you sound smart most of the time - but when you say something ridiculous, you sound even worse.

 

[AdmiralViscen]

nm wrong topic

 

[polg]

A little bit early, perhaps, but let me show you my Pokemans chart; my Pokemans chart, let me show you it:

are those japan only?

 

[Jokeropia]

are those japan only?

Yes.

 

[Stormbringer]

While at the time they seemed like sincere estimations, some of these quotes just sound like bad troll attemps now.

This, my friend, is the fate of all the internet analysts. Nobody can be right all the time, right ?

 

[Joe Molotov]

I completely respect Nintendo as a software company, but as far as hardware is concerned, they are a sheep lost in the woods, and Sony is coming home to grandma's house (how's that for mixed literary allusions? )

given the example of mario 64 ds, it seems nintendo aren't even competent curators of their own faded legacy.

I love how the imminent downfall of the DS brought out the poet-philospher in everyone. :lol

 

[P90]

That was when a post that was nonsupportive of the PSP resulted in a ban. I got a two weeker. More than a few got permabanned for saying that "the handheld war was over" in Nintendo's favor. I think some of the mods should come forward and unban some people. Reality has shown that the exiles were right.

 

[Great Rumbler]

In the next 2 years, which system do you believe will recieve the majority of SE's attention / new announcements?

The irony is almost palpable.

 

[Bluemercury]

I love how the imminent downfall of the DS brought out the poet-philospher in everyone. :lol

Well drohne specially, he probably saves all his sentences to see how good he is at writing 5 cent words and thinking he's some game philosopher or something like that.....

 

[Joe Molotov]

I think I've found the exact moment when GAF finally realized the truth:

July 4-10 2005

Guys, this is clearly a trend.

 

[BrodiemanTTR]

Square Enix already has a game for the PSP and word is that quite a few more are to follow. I fully expect SE to be completely behind PSP in short order.

In the next 2 years, which system do you believe will recieve the majority of SE's attention / new announcements?

There are not enough :lol s.