something something shoving gay agenda down throats then pulling out intestines something something
as long as I can use a token to do it more easily
something something shoving gay agenda down throats then pulling out intestines something something
what is the right ship for Kung Jin?
This is an interesting mindset that I feel is gaining a lot of traction. Is it the fact that he's gay and included that's important, or is it the fact that he's gay and the fact that he's gay is irrelevant to the situation that's important?
This year...between Pillars of Eternity and (who would have thought) Mortal Kombat X...Bioware should hang their fucking heads in shame.
So if anyone else is interested, the latest Tales game, Tales of Zestiria, contains the franchise's first same-sex romance withIt is fairly blatant and not just wish fulfillment of fans, and is confirmed in-game and if I'm not mistaken by the developers as well.its main character Sorey and his friend Mikleo
Found out about this yesterday when a housemate said that pretty much everything he found on gameFAQs was just people raging over a gay Kombatant
Even people going as far as to state no desire to buy the game because one character was hinted at being gay.
and even now im seeing other people say that they'll pick this game up purely because it had the guts to put in a gay character, even though its a noble gesture dont buy the game BECAUSE it has a gay character in it, buy it because you want it.
Nether realm could have very easily played this for brownie points with the borderline extremist left games media but they didnt and id like to think its for the following reason
Gay characters need to stop being something to write about, they need to be a complete non-issue it just needs to be normalized which seems to be what they're attempted here once gay characters stop being something everyone feels the need to jump up and congratulate or condemn it'll become status quo, it'll no longer become a political statement and it will just be considered normal which is what the real goal for equality should be.
Once gay characters stop being an event and become normalized then the people condemning them will ostracize themselves from the rest of us more so than they already do and then eventually they'll fade away.
It's already happening all we need to do now is let it happen stop talking about characters because theyre gay, talk about them because they are awesome and respect the fact that they are gay but do not define them by it.
You had the right idea - it shouldn't be a rare occurrence worth making a big deal about. But you don't accomplish this by not talking about it, lol, but by actually making these characters a common thing instead of something that hardly ever happens.Found out about this yesterday when a housemate said that pretty much everything he found on gameFAQs was just people raging over a gay Kombatant
Even people going as far as to state no desire to buy the game because one character was hinted at being gay.
and even now im seeing other people say that they'll pick this game up purely because it had the guts to put in a gay character, even though its a noble gesture dont buy the game BECAUSE it has a gay character in it, buy it because you want it.
Nether realm could have very easily played this for brownie points with the borderline extremist left games media but they didnt and id like to think its for the following reason
Gay characters need to stop being something to write about, they need to be a complete non-issue it just needs to be normalized which seems to be what they're attempted here once gay characters stop being something everyone feels the need to jump up and congratulate or condemn it'll become status quo, it'll no longer become a political statement and it will just be considered normal which is what the real goal for equality should be.
Once gay characters stop being an event and become normalized then the people condemning them will ostracize themselves from the rest of us more so than they already do and then eventually they'll fade away.
It's already happening all we need to do now is let it happen stop talking about characters because theyre gay, talk about them because they are awesome and respect the fact that they are gay but do not define them by it.
Found out about this yesterday when a housemate said that pretty much everything he found on gameFAQs was just people raging over a gay Kombatant
Gay characters need to stop being something to write about, they need to be a complete non-issue it just needs to be normalized which seems to be what they're attempted here once gay characters stop being something everyone feels the need to jump up and congratulate or condemn it'll become status quo, it'll no longer become a political statement and it will just be considered normal which is what the real goal for equality should be.
Once gay characters stop being an event and become normalized then the people condemning them will ostracize themselves from the rest of us more so than they already do and then eventually they'll fade away.
It's already happening all we need to do now is let it happen stop talking about characters because theyre gay, talk about them because they are awesome and respect the fact that they are gay but do not define them by it.
Found out about this yesterday when a housemate said that pretty much everything he found on gameFAQs was just people raging over a gay Kombatant
Even people going as far as to state no desire to buy the game because one character was hinted at being gay.
and even now im seeing other people say that they'll pick this game up purely because it had the guts to put in a gay character, even though its a noble gesture dont buy the game BECAUSE it has a gay character in it, buy it because you want it.
Nether realm could have very easily played this for brownie points with the borderline extremist left games media but they didnt and id like to think its for the following reason
Gay characters need to stop being something to write about, they need to be a complete non-issue it just needs to be normalized which seems to be what they're attempted here once gay characters stop being something everyone feels the need to jump up and congratulate or condemn it'll become status quo, it'll no longer become a political statement and it will just be considered normal which is what the real goal for equality should be.
Once gay characters stop being an event and become normalized then the people condemning them will ostracize themselves from the rest of us more so than they already do and then eventually they'll fade away.
It's already happening all we need to do now is let it happen stop talking about characters because theyre gay, talk about them because they are awesome and respect the fact that they are gay but do not define them by it.
The "they won't accept" part.... Isn't Kung Jin talking about his past as a dishonorable thief as opposed to a proud warrior like his ancestors?
Where the f does the gay part come from?
Handled very well since it wasn't up in your face with the revelation.
If only the developers had confirmed it, right?Yeah pretty sure he is talking about being a theif, that's what the whole flash back is about. How even a theif can be redeemed & become good. People are reading into this too much.
it's good EXACTLY because it's gonna fly over most people heads
Yeah pretty sure he is talking about being a theif, that's what the whole flash back is about. How even a theif can be redeemed & become good. People are reading into this too much.
Thats how i saw it as well. I guess you can read into it multiple ways. Was it aomeone from another clan? Race? The Netherrealm? Gay?Yeah pretty sure he is talking about being a theif, that's what the whole flash back is about. How even a theif can be redeemed & become good. People are reading into this too much.
Bioware's been doing just fine diversity-wise for a long time now.
Nether Realms Guy said:I see people are picking up on the subtle exposition contained in Kung Jins flashback. Glad we have observant fans!
Found out about this yesterday when a housemate said that pretty much everything he found on gameFAQs was just people raging over a gay Kombatant
Even people going as far as to state no desire to buy the game because one character was hinted at being gay.
and even now im seeing other people say that they'll pick this game up purely because it had the guts to put in a gay character, even though its a noble gesture dont buy the game BECAUSE it has a gay character in it, buy it because you want it.
Nether realm could have very easily played this for brownie points with the borderline extremist left games media but they didnt and id like to think its for the following reason
Gay characters need to stop being something to write about, they need to be a complete non-issue it just needs to be normalized which seems to be what they're attempted here once gay characters stop being something everyone feels the need to jump up and congratulate or condemn it'll become status quo, it'll no longer become a political statement and it will just be considered normal which is what the real goal for equality should be.
Once gay characters stop being an event and become normalized then the people condemning them will ostracize themselves from the rest of us more so than they already do and then eventually they'll fade away.
It's already happening all we need to do now is let it happen stop talking about characters because theyre gay, talk about them because they are awesome and respect the fact that they are gay but do not define them by it.
Yeah pretty sure he is talking about being a theif, that's what the whole flash back is about. How even a theif can be redeemed & become good. People are reading into this too much.
Because in a venerable series with over 70 different characters, it's nice to finally have a character who's gay.The hell are we praising them for? Are we to be happy with subtle exposition? Thinking about this more, this hardly seems so momentous a triumph and certainly not something we should be tossing golden laurels about.
It's one think to praise a character for being gay and yet not acting stereotypically.
It's a very different thing to say that a scene supposedly revealing a character's sexuality is well done in proportion to how many people will entirely miss the fact. You're literally saying that the fewer people who notice there's a gay character, the better. That's not how you improve minority visibility: that's the exact opposite.
I think people are too often confusing the both, in this thread and in general, and that worries me. "Subtlety" is a two-sided sword, and making stuff ambiguous for the sake of people who "don't care" about characters' sexuality (read: assume heterosexuality) is not necessarily a good thing.
Visibility helps things become perceived as normal.and why should we improve minorities' visibility?
what would that accomplish exactly..making aware people that gay exist?i think they already know that.
make being homosexual a normal thing,not something to underline...that is the challenge.
Mortal Kombat 10's story has two prominent straight romances and one character who is offhandedly mentioned as gay.and why should we improve minorities' visibility?
what would that accomplish exactly..making aware people that gay exist?i think they already know that.
make being homosexual a normal thing,not something to underline...that is the challenge.
Mortal Kombat 10's story has two prominent straight romances and one character who is offhandedly mentioned as gay.
Normal in this case would be giving Kung-Jin his own romance subplot. But somehow, I doubt you'd find that palatable.
Visibility helps things become perceived as normal.
Gay characters need to stop being something to write about, they need to be a complete non-issue it just needs to be normalized which seems to be what they're attempted here once gay characters stop being something everyone feels the need to jump up and congratulate or condemn it'll become status quo, it'll no longer become a political statement and it will just be considered normal which is what the real goal for equality should be.
That is awesome to hear about the diverse cast.It's really cool of Netherrealm to do this. I know some jackholes will squeal about "doing it the right way" or some bullshit, but it's high time gay men receive proper representation in games.
Shit, is there a single gay dude in a fighting game who isn't a completely awful stereotype? Kung Jin's a fucking trailblazer just by virtue of being treated with the same dignity and respect his peers get. Adding to this, MKX being a game with only 3 white dudes in the entire cast, a main female lead, a biracial relationship featuring a Japanese/Vietnamese male and African-American female, and several non-white, non-male characters being featured in prominent roles, and we have a game that sold gangbusters while also being incredibly diverse. Like, somehow, actually featuring non-white dude protagonists didn't fucking implode the universe. Fancy that.
Really? Why do we see straight romance in gaming as normal and not worth of special attention? Hint: because it has been there since the days of Pac Man. We have seen gay characters become less and less of a deal on movies and TV, because it's becoming more common and not because people don't talk about it.on the contrary
makes thing being perceived as something different,something important.
someone's sexuality is NOT important
if you keep telling the majority that they should threat the minority better,all you get is that the majority will continue to perceive the minority as something "different" then themselves.
It's weird how nobody plays the "someone's sexuality is not important" card when it's for a straight character.on the contrary
makes thing being perceived as something different,something important.
someone's sexuality is NOT important
if you keep telling the majority that they should threat the minority better,all you get is that the majority will continue to perceive the minority as something "different" then themselves.
I think this is an important point. As I mentioned previously, there are many ways to show diversity, but the amount of "I'm glad it was subtle/not shoved in our faces" responses in here is a bit off-putting.Mortal Kombat 10's story has two prominent straight romances and one character who is offhandedly mentioned as gay.
Normal in this case would be giving Kung-Jin his own romance subplot. But somehow, I doubt you'd find that palatable.
yeah you can't walk around without tripping over all the "in your face" gay characters in video games these daysI clicked this thread thinking that I was going to eyeroll super hard over yet another in your face "see how progressive we are?!" homosexual character/situation inclusion, but that actually sounds really well handled. Good job, NetherRealm.
Really? Why do we see straight romance in gaming as normal and not worth of special attention? Hint: because it has been there since the days of Pac Man. We have seen gay characters become less and less of a deal on movies and TV, because it's becoming more common and not because people don't talk about it.