nkarafo
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If you aren't going to be a model then why it should matter how beautiful you are when you are looking for a job?
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Men with long hair still looked down upon?
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Past the shoulder, on dudes, and you are guaranteed to look terrible.
Cause its unprofessional looking. Just like i wouldnt wear flip flops to an interview.
Cause its unprofessional looking. Just like i wouldnt wear flip flops to an interview.
Yeah, How dare people expect you look professional in a professional environment. /s
Like it or not appearance has always and will always matter. Its the very first thing people will notice about you, when you work for a company you are representing that company.
I agree 100% but its the reality in a lot of industries so you either adapt by cutting your hair and expand the amount of potential jobs or try and find an employer who doesnt care (from a severely limited pool of jobs).
nkarafo
Member
But it's still a rule that only applies to men. Is that OK?
Women have much harsher beauty standards imposed on them in jobs, what are you on about?
The Jesus look wouldn't really work for me either. Beard life is fine, but the long hair? Nah. I've never turned anyone down for a position on my team because of their appearance, but things like long hair and neck tats would probably warrant it.A bit like this:
But without the beard. He is also blond. He keeps his hair in pristine condition.
nkarafo
Member
Queen Vulpix
Member
Yes because I'm tired of being jealous of men having nicer hair then me!
I personal find medium/long (Just above the shoulders) hair attractive on many men. One of my guy friends had really nice hair but he had to cut it for a job.
I'm joking!
I personal find medium/long (Just above the shoulders) hair attractive on many men. One of my guy friends had really nice hair but he had to cut it for a job.
Are you going to put as much time into your hair as women do? This is something a lot of men who complain about it overlook.
I loved my long hair, but it's a bitch on maintenance. And by that, I don't just mean in the morning. I mean if there is rain, humidity, time of day, etc.
No. If I was a owner of a business and had people running the front I want someone with clean cut and clean shave or at least a well kept beard. Having clean employees versus dirty ones can hurt your business.
What rule. Not look like an idiot?
Astral Dog
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nkarafo
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WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
That's how the world works though!
True enough, which is why the bro should get it shortened somewhat.
UnemployedVillain
Member
Is it a consumer/client facing job?
Slammin_Hammon
Member
Sorry, but most times long hair on dudes looks terrible. You have to know who you are interviewing with. If long hair wouldn't look professional in the interview it's not really all that different than wearing the wrong clothes.
Astral Dog
Member
Rules are meant to be disscused and broken
well maybe
To a certain extent, no. You can look at the natural hair movement for that.
But there is a societal standard as to what people will judge you by, and that usually means proper hygiene, having a shower and not having excessively long hair. And being within those standards is a hell of a lot easier for men than women.
A manbun, after the meme destruction of it?
It matters to everyone. Some just think they are holier than thou
ForkNetwork
Banned
Long hair = dirty employees???
I have long hair and I"ll let you know that I wash it with a lot of love
nkarafo
Member
Last time was a job in retail. He would fill up shelves or something like that.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
I wish I could still do long hair.
I currently have long hair, few centimiters above my belly button and I'm in an office job and never had any issues with my bosses for that. They are open mind about that stuff despite they are all 60+ years old. I believe that's because they used to have long hair + long beard back when they were young. Also because I always put my hair into a massive bun when I'm at the office lol. Been working there for 5 + years so that's why I haven't had issues with that. I'm aware that once I had to get a new job, I will have to cut it because people here in México are still very close minded on those aspects 
I have longish hair and it didn't matter too much when I was working as a translator.
It probably would have been a problem if I was applying as an interpreter and had to deal with people outside the company though. It sucks, but there isn't really much you can do about it
On the other hand, my cousin's husband has waist length hair and is well on his way to become a professor. I guess it depends on the profession and the nature of your work.
It probably would have been a problem if I was applying as an interpreter and had to deal with people outside the company though. It sucks, but there isn't really much you can do about it
On the other hand, my cousin's husband has waist length hair and is well on his way to become a professor. I guess it depends on the profession and the nature of your work.
Poor GRIMES
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I understand full well how the world works in terms of how society views men with long hair versus men with short hair. However, I advocate that people broaden their scope when it comes to writing someone off based on their appearance alone. Employers should focus on performance and experience versus policing someone's hair when hiring.
The line itself for "clean and kept" is incredibly vague as well. This results in all types of hair that deviates from the norm to be considered unprofessional. An example of this is traditionally Black hairstyles like dreads being banned from the workplace because it isn't "clean and kept."
This type of mentality hurts people that legitimately go out of their way to practice hair maintenance. Hair length is not indicative of one's own personal hygiene and self-care. Allowing yourself to cloud your perceptions with antiquated mindsets does no good.
You so woke.
What is you opinion on the fact I had to tell a guy that used to work for us that he had to cut his dreads of ~10 years off because he was unable to wear a hardhat?
I work at Publix and we're required to have very short hair and be clean shaven. If our hair touches our collar or we have five-o-clock shadow we're ordered to get a hair cut before next shift and, in regards to facial hair, return home, shave, and come back within a reasonable time and you're off the clock till you do. If they're busy they make you go buy a razor and do it in the restroom.
I absolutely hate it.
People who have long hair or facial hair for religious reasons are simply not hired even tho they say it's an exception. A dude is actually suing them over this.
I absolutely hate it.
People who have long hair or facial hair for religious reasons are simply not hired even tho they say it's an exception. A dude is actually suing them over this.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
That's about the requirements for the job though, not about how you should look for the job.
Because our society for the most part puts weight behind a certain type of person for the "business world". 99% of advertisements and media of offices are just some short hair blokes.
A bit like this:
But without the beard. He is also blond. He keeps his hair in pristine condition.
He should of tucked his pony tail under his shirt, got hired and been like, "surprise bitches!" With it out on day 1.
And a requirement for many jobs is the ability to look professional in your field / like someone your clients will not have any hangups about dealing with.
The OP has not mentioned the field this guy was applying for.
nkarafo
Member
I am aware of that. But my issue is that this is still a thing today where the civilized world tries to be more inclusive.
He didn't mention any job where long hair would be an obstacle for anyone and he only had to cut it because he is a man. Last one was in a small retail chain.
Poor GRIMES
Banned
I don't know, did you tell him to shorten his dreadlocks to the point where the hard hat would be actually fit him with his dreadlocks, or did you tell him to cut his dreadlocks off entirely?
Its the same reason many places require a clean shave. It looks terrible on most men and its just much easier to have an universal policy. If you let some people have long hair but ban others you are asking for a lawsuit.
Appearance is extremely important in retail as you are in contact with customers constantly
I don't recall.
Retail huh? Anyway, we're still decades out from what the majority of businesses and corporations consider an 'acceptable' look from morphing.
There are still many, many workplaces that won't allow their female staff to dye their hair in more extreme colours, it isn't just men that have certain hairstyles they are expected to conform to.
nkarafo
Member
Universal for men only though?
Also, long hair on men is officially bad looking then, so it's a policy?
DerpButter
Member
Cut it then grow it back out while you work there - being terminated for long hair is way more of a litigious liability than being denied a position.
Hashmal_Bringer_of_Order
Member
If you follow rules 1 & 2 your golden.
However, most dudes look terrible with long hair. And deep down, you (general you) already know if it will work for you.
However, most dudes look terrible with long hair. And deep down, you (general you) already know if it will work for you.
Poor GRIMES
Banned
If the primary requirement is to "look professional" on the job, then you can absolutely accomplish that requirement regardless of other people's opinions on whether or not you look "professional" to them.
To elaborate:
When people say be "professional" the connotation is actually meant to be "hygienic." You can be hygienic regardless if people think of you as looking professional or not. Looking professional is an arbitrary excuse that bars certain types of people from entering certain types of industries.
nkarafo
Member
Are men allowed to dye their hair in those workplaces though? Or it's a rule for everyone?
If it's a rule for everyone, that's great.
FZeroRacer
Neo Member
One more reason I'm happy to be a developer. They can get me to cut my hair when I'm six feet under and not a moment sooner. There's a bunch of coworkers of mine with various hair styles even in customer-facing positions. As long as I actually take care of my long hair I'm golden.
Though if you're someone that has long hair never, ever put it up in a manbun or ponytail unless it's for sanitary reasons. That's a recipe for disaster.
Though if you're someone that has long hair never, ever put it up in a manbun or ponytail unless it's for sanitary reasons. That's a recipe for disaster.
Huh? I'm speaking of the broad landscape of employer expectations, not my personal opinion.