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Men with long hair still looked down upon?
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sephiroth7x
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It really shouldn't matter... and in a perfect world it wouldn't... but it does depending on the job he was applying for.
I am a training manager and when I got my tattoo sleeves the first thing my manager said was, "Well you have to wear long sleeves now all the time...". I don't, (Unless my manager sits in on anything I am doing) and nobody bats an eyelid.
However, one of my coordinators does have long hair, plays in a metal band etc. and all the feedback forms always state things like 'At first I felt intimidated, but he was really nice' or 'For a man who looks like a hippy he knows what he is talking about'.
The amount of times I have had to defend his appearance to my manager is crazy, because my manager believes we should look professional and having long hair isn't considered such. This is the same for women as well may I add, they are asked (not forced) to have their hair tied up or cut if it is longer than their shoulders. I don't enforce these things as it shouldn't effect peoples training ability but the stigma is very much there!
I am a training manager and when I got my tattoo sleeves the first thing my manager said was, "Well you have to wear long sleeves now all the time...". I don't, (Unless my manager sits in on anything I am doing) and nobody bats an eyelid.
However, one of my coordinators does have long hair, plays in a metal band etc. and all the feedback forms always state things like 'At first I felt intimidated, but he was really nice' or 'For a man who looks like a hippy he knows what he is talking about'.
The amount of times I have had to defend his appearance to my manager is crazy, because my manager believes we should look professional and having long hair isn't considered such. This is the same for women as well may I add, they are asked (not forced) to have their hair tied up or cut if it is longer than their shoulders. I don't enforce these things as it shouldn't effect peoples training ability but the stigma is very much there!
Benzychenz
Member
When I read the title I thought of a common man-bun length, but waist length metalhead hair? I wouldn't hire him either.
You can apply this to basically any aspect of ones appearance or body.
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
long hair is fine if you look after it. i see plenty of guys with long hair.
i miss long hair but if i grew my hair long today i'd look like this
i miss long hair but if i grew my hair long today i'd look like this
H.Protagonist
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It shouldn't matter these days, and I feel bad for your friend if he actually keeps it in a 'pristine' condition as you say, but unfortunately conservative values + the hygiene thing still rule here. Could he bun it tidily in the back, perhaps?
For the hygiene thing, I'm sorry to say that I have to agree based on what I've witnessed the majority of the time. I've seen tons of men with long hair and 95% of the time it's...gross. Greasy, frayed, stray bits everywhere, uncombed, etc. It's either down or yanked back into a tatty ponytail which is appealing to no one. I've always wondered why guys bother to grow their hair long and then do nothing with it. They've helped ruin it for your friend, OP!
For the hygiene thing, I'm sorry to say that I have to agree based on what I've witnessed the majority of the time. I've seen tons of men with long hair and 95% of the time it's...gross. Greasy, frayed, stray bits everywhere, uncombed, etc. It's either down or yanked back into a tatty ponytail which is appealing to no one. I've always wondered why guys bother to grow their hair long and then do nothing with it. They've helped ruin it for your friend, OP!
DigitalRicket
Member
Going to say this. I used to have long hair back in my college days but once I cut it I gained instant respect from people. I think it just has to do with how it looks. Same with beards. I was just talking to my wife about it the other day about how much I hate shaving but then started to go down a rabbit hole of why beards ended up having the whole wrap they do.
Shaving was not a day to day thing back in the old days. I mean, you could use a straight razor by yourself but who had the time and who cared back then when you were working from sunrise to sunset. Not to mention you'd have to go to a barber to get it done right and that'd be a once a week thing, where the other half of the time it's growing back and you got that hair growing in.
So as time went on shaving became more common place with the turn of the industrial revolution and eventually adopted fully with the advent of disposable razors. That would then stand to reason why people who don't shave are seen as unkept because they have access to shaving but rather don't do it because they are lazy and like the bearded look. Heck, if I could pull it off I'd love to do a beard but mine doesn't grow in all the way, but I get why it has a stigma. Same for men with long hair. It just is a sociological perception that men look dirty with longer hair.
Pesmerga00
Member
It is called shampoo+conditioner. I have shoulder length hair. I pull it back into a ponytail to keep it out of my face. I guess I am just a disgusting slob that "no one" will ever find attractive. I will choose to believe the people around me, rather than someone on the Internet.
She didn't say anything at all to suggest that. I don't think anyone here seriously has a Vendetta against long haired men, just stating the unfortunate reality.
Where do you live? Where I am beards are largely back in style
LeroyPantwether
Member
Why though ? People lie to loved ones all the time . Do I look fat in this ? How do you like my cupcakes? Does my long hair look stupid?
Conversely , random stranger online has no vested interest in your feelings and will tell it to you straight . I'd believe the stranger , but you do you .
Pesmerga00
Member
"I've seen tons of men with long hair and 95% of the time it's...gross. Greasy, frayed, stray bits everywhere, uncombed, etc. It's either down or yanked back into a tatty ponytail which is appealing to no one."
So, what is this supposed to mean then.
OP do you look like the first guy or the last, because honestly it matters.
I look exactly like this.
If this doesn't apply to you, why are you taking it personally?
True Savior
Member
Depends of the jaw.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Conform or die?
Pesmerga00
Member
I'm not? It's just kinda weird to see people have this strong of an opinion of someone else's hair.
H.Protagonist
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? If you take care of yours, then you're not what I'm talking about at all. Misread, perhaps? I like long hair on guys just fine when it's cared for.
Pesmerga00
Member
Sorry. I guess I took that as an attack on all Men's long hair.
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Transhuman
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Brerlappin
Member
Long hair on men is acceptable from teenage years (14-15) to a max of about 25 (and even thats pushing it). Once you get past that age, and especially if you have long hair in your 30's, it just seems sad and kinda creepy. Like honestly having a full head of long hair in your 30s is as bad as being balding with a comb over. It looks kinda sad, like youre still trying to be a rebel but hold down that 9-5. The only people who can get away with it are actual, real rock stars. Not people who play in Metallica cover bands on the weekend but work in an office Mon-Fri.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I don't think it's looked down upon, but it's a specific look that doesn't suit most men.
But in a particular work environment there probably is the expectation that men should keep it short as it's more presentable.
EDIT - it's waist-length pseudo-metal hair? Yeah, I'm not a fan of that look and I'm not surprised employers would have that reaction.
But in a particular work environment there probably is the expectation that men should keep it short as it's more presentable.
EDIT - it's waist-length pseudo-metal hair? Yeah, I'm not a fan of that look and I'm not surprised employers would have that reaction.
H.Protagonist
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No worries. I'm sorry if it read that way at first glance. I'm all for guys having more hair variety. I think it's pretty unfair that it should have any bearing today on your work in this day and age if you keep it tidy.
The war on men
Curse youuuuuu, body oilssssss!
When it comes to a job you want? Yea.
Reading this thread, i had no idea that people had such strong opinions about guys hair. Tbh i am suprised by some of these negative comments and general attitude. Not even sure are you all serious.
I've always liked long hair but never had one myself. Trying to grow it right now, about shoulder lenght would be ok. It's just a thing i want to do just once, if i dont like it or if it starts to look trashy, i cut it. Any tips for it (other than dont do it)?.
I've always liked long hair but never had one myself. Trying to grow it right now, about shoulder lenght would be ok. It's just a thing i want to do just once, if i dont like it or if it starts to look trashy, i cut it. Any tips for it (other than dont do it)?.
Dr. Buni
Member
It seems to still happen. Tattoos are still considered bad by a lot of employers as well, even if they are hidden by your outfit most of the time.
I personally like men with long hair. Even if I didn't, it is none of my business what they do with their hair and it sure as hell isn't of the business of employers. Hire someone for what they do, not for how they look.
I personally like men with long hair. Even if I didn't, it is none of my business what they do with their hair and it sure as hell isn't of the business of employers. Hire someone for what they do, not for how they look.
JimmyRustler
Member
Jup, looks creepy as hell mate.
Just go for that clean and slick look like Brad Pitt in this picture and no one will treat you any different.
If you can afford it I can recommend you a ceratin treatment if your hair grows out messy. It does wonders.
But women can have any type of hair they want, right?
Not generalising at all. Not even a bit.
Fuck that company then.
I have my hair a little below the shoulders. Sometimes I have them open, sometimes a knot, sometimes a ponytail. A lot of good looking men out there with long hair that look professional. So boiling it down to "long hair is a no go" tells me that company is not the right palce to work.
And about the hygiene thing. I have seen plenty of men with very short or half-bald hair who looked gross as well. Short hair is not a requirement for well kempt hair.
You have no idea how difficult frays and stray bits are to get rid of. Anyway, men aren't taught how to care for or wear their hair because there's less expectation placed on men's looks compared to women.
L4DANathan
Member
As someone who's usually too cheap/lazy to get their hair cut, cut it to get the job (even when well kept, guys don't look hygienic with long hair) and let it grow back afterwards (unless you work in food service, they usually don't care once you already work there).
H.Protagonist
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I mean, I agree that men aren't conditioned to care for their hair as much as women, but pretty much all women deal with fray, frizzy, and stray bits of hair constantly. So, yeah, I'm darn aware of what goes into it. And as far as teaching goes, it usually comes down to effort and trial and error. There's no special 'lesson' we're given as kids besides keep it clean and brushed.
Sorry, that should have read "for me".
Keeping it clean and brushed is rarely enough in my experience.
H.Protagonist
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Oh, I'm with you. Living in the UK now has made my hair a nightmare with the constant drizzle. Have you tried Argan Oil? That + Aussie repair S&C helps a lot.
well if you're good looking you could pretty much pull anything off
cue flood of pics of good looking celebrities with shit haircuts
Pretty much this. Good looking man can pull off longer hair and no one would really bat an eye. Although with quite a few celebs now having about shoulder length hair, at least that much seems to be something most people wouldn't care about. When it goes down to your back or longer it just doesn't look good.
Tell a man to spend as much time caring for their hair as a woman is forced too, then we'll talk.
Conor_Fool
Banned
Ehhh, greasiness can certainly become an issue but I've found people are too quick to throw that term around. It's perfectly healthy to only shampoo long hair once a week while just conditioning and body washing the other days. My hair is thick as hell so my prime is from the day I shampoo to between Day 3-4. Shampooing your hair every day is horrible for it.
Unfortunately my hair is so thick that it tends to dread within those three or four days so I need to brush the shit out of that ish almost every day. And use entirely too much hair detangler product in the process