Omegasquash
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Please. I'm holding off full opinion 'til after I've played the newest for real, but what are they going to do...worse than what we've seen recently?
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Mercury Steam: "of course we've thought of making Metroid 3DS"
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Please. I'm holding off full opinion 'til after I've played the newest for real, but what are they going to do...worse than what we've seen recently?
slaughterking
Member
Give that franchise a break, please. Like Other M wasn't bad enough already.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
I'm imagining a very bored Patrick Stewart narrating Samus's many elevator rides.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Well fucking forget about it, Mercury Steam.
TalesOfWin
Banned
Lots of QTE is fun?
MemoryHumanity
Member
Now we gotta see if the platforming gets polished and most of the glitches get fixed. (Not grabbing the ledge when he is supposed to was certainly annoying as hell)
If they get Morgan Freeman to narrate it I'm sold no matter how bad the game might be.
You're mistaken. Nobody bought the last one because it was Metroid.
TalesOfWin
Banned
just give it back to retro.
Oni Link 666
Member
I'd much rather see WayForward make a Metroid than those guys. I mean, if Nintendo doesn't want to make it themselves.
mugurumakensei
Member
As long as its out of Retro's hands, it's all good. Metroid Prime series remains the only blemish on Retro's record.
Nocturnowl
Member
"The defeat of Kraid has opened but one of the keys to enter Mother Brain's lair of Tourian, but now Samus must journey further down into the depths of Norfair where the ferocious Ridley awaits, I wonder what must be going through her mind as she prepares to face the very monster that slayed her parents, she will endure great mental trauma upon facing him but I have faith that her pure heart is strong enough to overcome the painful imagery that haunts her nightmares, at long last her opportunity for vengeance is at hand, I can only hope it does not consume her..."
Alternatively 30 seconds of Patrick Stewart saying "The Baby" over and over.
Ugh, that would be awful. Their inability to optimize their graphics engines to run at even remotely stable framerates would absolutely destroy the fluidity of Metroid.
I still think Tecmo receives too much hate over Other M, though. The core game crafted by Team Ninja plays quite well and actually works as a Metroid title but all of those awful cutscenes and narrative attempts absolutely ruin the experience and that was the result of Nintendo's collaboration.
I still think Tecmo receives too much hate over Other M, though. The core game crafted by Team Ninja plays quite well and actually works as a Metroid title but all of those awful cutscenes and narrative attempts absolutely ruin the experience and that was the result of Nintendo's collaboration.
RockmanWhore
Member
I like my games with good framerate, so NOPE. It would be like handling DMC to a dev like Ninja Theory.
While I do agree the title in general gets too much hate, it is TN's fault the game isn't classic style Metroid, which many people took issue with.
True, but I think if you removed the story trimmings and focused more on building atmosphere (while keeping the base game the same) you'd have a better experience.
Are you kidding? Ninja Theory did a wonderful job with DmC. Much better than what MS has done with Castelevania 3DS.
Glass Rebel
Member
I don't think they are a good choice.
LoS was decent from a gameplay perspective and they are fantastic when it comes to creating beautiful environments but their inability to get some good performance in their games (which is why I'm looking forward to LoS2 on PC and the hinted at port of the first game) would really hurt the Metroid experience. Currently, I'd only trust Retro or From Software to create a good Metroid game.
LoS was decent from a gameplay perspective and they are fantastic when it comes to creating beautiful environments but their inability to get some good performance in their games (which is why I'm looking forward to LoS2 on PC and the hinted at port of the first game) would really hurt the Metroid experience. Currently, I'd only trust Retro or From Software to create a good Metroid game.
Miyamoto hinted at Metroid U in one of his interviews (I believe at the last year's E3).
I don't get why are people overreacting. If Mercury Steam where to make the game, that would mean Nintendo saw something of value in the developer, furthermore they would be under strict control.
I'm not confident they could pull of a decent framerate in one of their games even under Nintendo's direction.
Then Miyamoto would upend the table
.Pancakes R Us
Member
2D sprites, yes please. I don't know anything about this developer other than the fact that they've made a Castlevania game, which I've never paid attention to. Somebody, just give us a good 2D Metroid, please. It's been too long.
Edit: if those comments are real, I suspect we're getting a Metroid game from these guys.
DragonSworne
Banned
I say let them make it
From Software on performance? Excuse me but did you played Armored Core V and the same Dark Souls (non PC version) I played?
MuddyDonut
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Starsunder
Member
Oh fuck no. You've already ruined Castlevania for me!
IS NOTHING SACRED
IS NOTHING SACRED
TalesOfWin
Banned
Metroid with QTEs.
Silver_DNA
Member
So wait. This company couldn't be bothered to port their Lords of Shadow games on a Nintendo system and they're postulating about making a Metroid game?
Honestly, I liked Lords of Shadow in that it was a brilliant re-imagining of what Castlevania could be. I tried the demo of the 3DS game last night and, even though it wasn't the easiest thing to get started with, I kind of liked it as it went on. The only thing from Lords of Shadow 2 that I've liked so far is the first trailer.
There are only two companies that can properly handle a Metroid game: Retro and Nintendo (really one company, but two divisions within it). I don't even think Wayforward could make a good Metroid game. Their track record has been slightly above decent.
Even still, if they made a Metroid game I would hope that they do one of two things: set it after Fusion and further explore the powers of the Fusion suit or do what they did to Castlevania and re-imagine the series from scratch. In that second scenario I don't necessarily mean reboot the whole thing, but go for an alternate style while telling the same story in a new way. Kind of like the various comic book heroes get.
Honestly, I liked Lords of Shadow in that it was a brilliant re-imagining of what Castlevania could be. I tried the demo of the 3DS game last night and, even though it wasn't the easiest thing to get started with, I kind of liked it as it went on. The only thing from Lords of Shadow 2 that I've liked so far is the first trailer.
There are only two companies that can properly handle a Metroid game: Retro and Nintendo (really one company, but two divisions within it). I don't even think Wayforward could make a good Metroid game. Their track record has been slightly above decent.
Even still, if they made a Metroid game I would hope that they do one of two things: set it after Fusion and further explore the powers of the Fusion suit or do what they did to Castlevania and re-imagine the series from scratch. In that second scenario I don't necessarily mean reboot the whole thing, but go for an alternate style while telling the same story in a new way. Kind of like the various comic book heroes get.
Konami its the problem there.
The original Shantae and it's sequel (both are Metroidvanias) are absolutely awesome. Plus they revitalized Contra and Boy and his Blob and have an excellent relationship with Nintendo. They can make a Metroid game.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Lords of Shadow is one of least favorite games this gen, I'd put it somewhere between LA Noire and Borderlands. I'm not hearing much glowing about the 3DS game either, so I think I'd pass.
Maybe let Inti Creates have a crack at it, if they aren't too busy making Gal Gun 2.
Maybe let Inti Creates have a crack at it, if they aren't too busy making Gal Gun 2.
My issue with Wayforward is that while they tend to have the structure down pretty well, I've never considered them to be particularly great when it comes down to the gameplay for platformers, and Metroid definitely needs a developer with a strong platformer background. R&D1 (or SPD1, or whatever they're called these days) can still do it if they tried, but Sakamoto just needs to cull the weaknesses from Fusion and Other M, rather than put them at the forefront. Keep the story-heavy games to the franchises that need it, rather than clumsily forcing them onto them.
hikarutilmitt
Member
A case could be made about the original Rondo port being bad, but the port of SOTN? Really?
That's some major hyperbole. I didn't care for the narrative either, so I simply focused my attention elsewhere whenever a cutscene started. As a result, the cutscenes didn't hamper my enjoyment of the game at all. The only things that brought it down were the parts where you had to walk slow for no reason and the parts where you were stuck in first person and had to point at the right part of the screen to advance, but those parts were rare enough that they didn't ruin the entire game.
It was buggy as hell (I managed to keep my Alucard equipment at the start of the game by simply backdashing out of Death's room when he started talking), and the new localization was just as poorly written as the old one but didn't contain any of the charm.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Few things:
1. Can't be worst than Other M...can it? Doubt it.
2. Mercury Steam proved me wrong after Jericho. I was skeptical of Lords of Shadow and Mirror of Fate. Both LoS and MoF are pretty awesome. Looking forward to LoS2. Gives me confidence that they'd do a great job with Metroid.
3. But it's Metroid, blah blah, needs to be like Prime, something something, needs to be like Super Metroid. That's my only worry. But to be fair, I always worry whenever someone takes on Metroid. Was worried with Retro. They delivered big time. Was worried with Team Ninja. They didn't deliver (even though I still enjoyed Other M). I'll once again worry if Mercury Steam tried Metroid.
But I'm willing to give Mercury Steam a chance. Another concern is the combat. It's different from Castlevania. So I'll hold all my feelings if or until this actually happens.
Either way, we need a Metroid game for the 3DS. I feel more confident with Mercury Steam than Team Ninja that's for sure.
1. Can't be worst than Other M...can it? Doubt it.
2. Mercury Steam proved me wrong after Jericho. I was skeptical of Lords of Shadow and Mirror of Fate. Both LoS and MoF are pretty awesome. Looking forward to LoS2. Gives me confidence that they'd do a great job with Metroid.
3. But it's Metroid, blah blah, needs to be like Prime, something something, needs to be like Super Metroid. That's my only worry. But to be fair, I always worry whenever someone takes on Metroid. Was worried with Retro. They delivered big time. Was worried with Team Ninja. They didn't deliver (even though I still enjoyed Other M). I'll once again worry if Mercury Steam tried Metroid.
But I'm willing to give Mercury Steam a chance. Another concern is the combat. It's different from Castlevania. So I'll hold all my feelings if or until this actually happens.
Either way, we need a Metroid game for the 3DS. I feel more confident with Mercury Steam than Team Ninja that's for sure.
To be fair, a variation of that bug is in the original game; it's a bit more involved than simply backdashing, but you can still get through that room with the Alucard set intact.
Glass Rebel
Member
I missed some parts in my post, I meant to say that from a level design perspective I'd only trust Retro or From to make a good Metroid game. I'm aware of the performance issues From games have so I guess that only leaves Retro