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[Red Blaster]

I think it's safe to say that the 3-4 years Kojima spent on Fox Engine were worth it. I just hope we get an original title from the engine, would love to see Project Ogre because I am not convinced that it's a code name for another MGS or this one.

MGS4 with its stupid installs and all reeked of a dev team that didn't really know what they were doing in regards to next-gen development. Kojima took on an "easy" project in Peace Walker while the Fox Engine gestated and only started another big project after KojiPro finally got their shit straight.

 

[Reiko]

Last of Us has nothing on this, though that's probably more down to the art direction than tech stuff.

That first trailer was High End PC or CG?

 

[Solideliquid]

Is this Big Boss or Solid Snake? That mapping tech seemed too advanced for the 80's.

 

[leadbelly]

I know this is a running joke, but MGS is filled with great gameplay. I for one love the cutscenes. I wouldn't want every game to do it, but with MGS it works.

Well, if we're talking MGS4 specifically, there were too many cutscenes and not enough gameplay. MGS games have always had long cutscenes, but in that game it was a joke.

 

[meta4]

They're not demoing TLoU on a high-end PC either

Plus none of the ingame animation shown here is anything beyond what TLOU's animation is doing which is looking god tier.

 

[strafer]

Is this Big Boss or Solid Snake? That mapping tech seemed too advanced for the 80's.

Big Boss.

 

[keltickennedy]

IGN thinks scarface is The Fury from MGS3.

They also thought Tony Vercetti was in the GTA V trailer...

 

[Red Blaster]

Is this Big Boss or Solid Snake? That mapping tech seemed too advanced for the 80's.

This was one of the bosses in Peace Walker

Kojima stopped caring about being historically accurate with technology a while ago lulz

 

[linkboy]

Is this Big Boss or Solid Snake? That mapping tech seemed too advanced for the 80's.

It's Big Boss.

As for the tech, its a Metal Gear game, it's tech has always been to advanced for its time period.

 

[Minamu]

Wow, no words.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

Regardless, we're next shown a child in a cage - Paz - who appears to have headphones plugged into her chest (she unplugs them, replugging them into an old walkman). She's betrayed the man somehow. He tells the girl to give his regards to her "Boss" (yes, capital B in sub-titles) as he leaves.

WTF? IGN. That's clearly a boy. :lol

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/02/pax-metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-demo-impressions

 

[RamzaIsCool]

A game looking like this is still comming out on a current gen console.

Just sayin...

 

[Pennywise83]

I really hate the way that the ground looks like... wet plastic!

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Wow, that was amazing!

Visually it's up there with Beyond as the best this generation.
I'm loving that we're still seeing stuff this stunning on such old hardware

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Looks great, nothing really seems to be beyond what were currently getting from the likes of uncharted, gow, etc. it's basically konami finally getting their act together with next gen development.

On a side note, I hope that this gets a simultaneous release on ps3/360 AND next gen systems with better resolution, frame rate, etc

 

[strafer]

A game looking like this is still comming out on a current gen console.

Just sayin...

What is this?

 

[JehutyRunner]

I don't know if this has been reported yet on GAF so mock if old, but:

The mystery 'Project Ogre' game in development at Kojima Productions is not the newly announced Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes, CVG understands.

A trusted source connected to the matter claimed that 'Ogre' is the codename for another project, previously believed - though not confirmed - to be Metal Gear Solid 5.

Ground Zeroes, announced on Thursday at a special Tokyo event, is an open-world variation of the Metal Gear Solid stealth gameplay model.

Addressing an audience at the Penny Arcade Expo on Sunday, Kojima confirmed that he will be masterminding the Zeroes project. This suggests that Project Ogre is being spearheaded by a separate team.

Link.

 

[linkboy]

What is this?

The new Tomb Raider.

 

[Gospel]

It's Big Boss.

As for the tech, its a Metal Gear game, it's tech has always been to advanced for its time period.

haha yah, I remember shooting down a hover scooter in mgs3. good times.

 

[zerodayPopbot]

Plus none of the ingame animation shown here is anything beyond what TLOU's animation is doing which is looking god tier.

Dunno I guess. This just looks better to me.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

What is this?

Beyond.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

WTF? IGN. That's clearly a boy. :lol

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/02/pax-metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-demo-impressions

I find it far more amazing they think the kid is Paz. Paz was an adult during the Peace Walker incident, how the fuck would she revert back to being a kid after the PW incident? lol IGN

 

[JehutyRunner]

What is this?

Beyond: Two Souls.

 

[RedSwirl]

Fucking massive upgrade over MGS4. And all of a sudden I'm excited for Metal Gear again.

 

[strafer]

Beyond.

Jesus Christ.

 

[Shinta]

YOU CAN PICK YOUR OWN KICKING ASS HELICOPTER MUSIC

I'm going with this!!!!!!!!

 

[BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!]

WTF? IGN. That's clearly a boy. :lol

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/02/pax-metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-demo-impressions

Sad thing is, the commentator on the video that's hosted on THEIR website said that the child in the cage is Chico. #GameJournalists LOL

 

[Fix The Scientist]

Looks absolutely incredible, maybe the best trailer i've seen this gen.. the mood and setting looks so fucking good. Don't care about shadow resolution, AA, etc but PLEASE give me a stable framerate.

 

[RamzaIsCool]

The new Tomb Raider.

Like hell it is. It's Beyond: Two Souls!

 

[meta4]

I really hate the way that the ground looks like... wet plastic!

I thought it looked awesome!!

 

[Solid warrior]

A game looking like this is still comming out on a current gen console.

Just sayin...

Beyond is not a game as in MGS GZ. It's a tech demo with spectator mode, IMO.

MGS GZ on the other hand is a full game, with its advanced physics, animation, scale and AI.

 

[UrbanRats]

Love the way he gets back to his feet.

Lol, the scene it's so bright that the flashlight seems pretty stupid there.
Still, wow at the new animations.

 

[linkboy]

Like hell it is. It's Beyond: Two Souls!

Sorry, thought that was the new Lara model (kinda looks like it).

I haven't been keeping up with things, either way it looks awesome.

 

[meta4]

Dunno I guess. This just looks better to me.

It def looks better. Graphics are amazing! Cant wait to see how it runs on consoles though.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

Beyond is not a game as in MGS GZ. It's a tech demo with spectator mode, IMO.

MGS GZ on the other hand is a full game, with its advanced physics, animation, scale and AI.

Was just about to say that.

 

[Cake Boss]

The new Tomb Raider.

I fucking wish,instead we got female Uncharted with more set pieces cinematic and press A to win.

 

[Wasp]

Mr Hayter liked the trailer:

David Hayter ‏@DavidBHayter
Hey Tweeps, I can't comment on Ground Zeroes… Beyond: What an incredible, photo-real, kick-ass fricken' trailer!

http://twitter.com/DavidBHayter/status/242065211819966465

 

[aeolist]

A game looking like this is still comming out on a current gen console.

Just sayin...

Is that game multiplatform and open world with fully controllable characters, vehicles, etc?

Quantic Dream can get better results by concentrating on PS3, designing a highly specialized engine, and having very little on the screen at once. MGS will not look this good on current console hardware.

 

[Pennywise83]

I thought it looked awesome!!

man...

 

[BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!]

David Hayter supposedly can't comment on being in MGSGZ, haha:

https://twitter.com/DavidBHayter/status/242065211819966465

 

[Solid warrior]

I'm going with this!!!!!!!!

YOU WIN.

 

[Chaplain]

So, is this new game for next gen or current gen? If it is for current, can they even do those graphics in an open world with 512 megs of ram?

 

[_Isaac]

Lol, the scene it's so bright that the flashlight seems pretty stupid there.
Still, wow at the new animations.

He wanted to get a better look at the rubber ground.

 

[Callo Merlose]

I agree. I think it's Big Boss training Solid Snake.

According to the established canon, it'd have to be Liquid.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

So, is this new game for next gen or current gen? If it is for current, can they even do those graphics in an open world with 512 megs of ram?

It's for current gen (they obviously can't say 'PS4/Xbox 720 too' since those platforms aren't officially announced). As for the graphics, I dunno. I don't believe for a second they'll be able to pull it off on PS360, but ymmv.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

.

 

[Little Old Man]

Wait wait. We get this game, and MGS5? Hell yes!

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Is that game multiplatform and open world with fully controllable characters, vehicles, etc?

Quantic Dream can get better results by concentrating on PS3, designing a highly specialized engine, and having very little on the screen at once. MGS will not look this good on current console hardware.

The Beyond model there is much better than the MGS GZ ones.
Of course Zeroes is doing a lot more and has no chance of matching the visual fidelity, but from the gameplay demo there the only thing that's even a bit of a stretch of PS3 capability would be a stable framerate, the rest is very achievable

 

[matrix-cat]

According to the established canon, it'd have to be Liquid.

Big Boss did train Snake for at least a little while. The first two Metal Gears are pretty shaky when it comes to series canon nowadays, but there's a Codec conversation in MGS4 where Snake explains how he learned CQC from Big Boss back when he was in FOXHOUND.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I don't see what is so hard to believe about these graphics being done on current gen. It looks really good but so do a lot of current gen games. I think the slick rain effects are covering up a lot of the stuff that would give away the "current gen-ness" of the graphics.