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Metroid Other M E3 Gameplay Trailer
- Thread starter Metroid Killer
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DragonGirl
Banned
Oh how could I forget the beautiful marsh area? Yeah, it's all coming back to me.
Metroid Killer
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I just discovered this interview with Sakamoto and Hayashi from team ninja. It's short but great, touches on the 'metroid-feel', the narrative, the prime games and even Gunpei Yokoi.
Metroid Killer said:
So it seems Sakamoto doesn't think that being isolated on a strange planet is crucial for a Metroid game...hmm...I don't know about all of you, but that's probably one of the most important factors in how immersive a game like Super Metroid is. Walking into a new area, hearing the music, seeing strange creatures/artifacts...Metroid games make you *become* Samus, because who couldn't relate to that sense of isolation combined with discovery?
However I am interested in his comment that the solitude remains, but it is her own sense of isolation, even amongst groups.
In any case, this will be a interesting experiment, and of course I'll be buying it Day 1. Sakamoto hasn't let us down before.
Anasui Kishibe
Banned
soon to be released and I still don't understand how the hell is gonna be played
Not that hard really. You hold the Wii remote sideways, D-pad for movement, 1 for shooting and 2 for jumping. A for Morph ball.Anasui Kishibe said:
It plays like a 2-d game but with some added depth (think old-school brawlers) and some cinematic camara angles.
Am I missing something?
Anasui Kishibe
Banned
Boney said:
yes. How does the first person work? i've read the previews but still couldnt picture it in my mind. You point your mote, but can you do it whenever you want or in certain situations?
I've also seen some sections in third person, so that adds to the wtfness
Oh yeah 1st person. You point at the screen and it goes to 1st person. You can't move,but you can look around and it's the only way to fire missiles. You can select stuff and Samus will go towards it if you go back to 3rd person.Anasui Kishibe said:
And the behind the shoulder camara occurs when you're "investigating" if I recall correctly. Like if you're inside a lab room and have to check things out. (could be wrong here)
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
i "get it" insomuch as i read descriptions of each of the individual parts of the control scheme and understand how they'll function, but to really understand the flow of the game and if the controls work in that regard--seeming natural and like a good choice on the developers' part--i'll really have to play it for myself.
Mcj Metroid
Member
I can't freaking wait for this!
I'm loving the return to old-school gameplay Nintendo and co are supplying.
I'm loving the return to old-school gameplay Nintendo and co are supplying.
Anasui Kishibe
Banned
Boney said:
uhm, thanks for replying mate. Still sounds confusing, I really hope it works well. I have faith, but ..
That's the part we're all skeptical about.. D-pad for a 3d space? The whole stopping to look around and breaking the whole pacing? Are investigation parts absolutely safe and nothing will happen until you find all that you're looking for, kinda like Shattered Memories? Do I have to keep talking like this?beelzebozo said:
I guess we'll find out in 2 months, but from what Sakamoto has said, by trying to make it simple, it sounds more constrictive.
I think control-wise it'll end up feeling a bit like Resident Evil, where you held R to enter a firing stance. Of course Samus can fire at any time, just not with precision unless you go first person.
The other third person over the shoulder bits just seem like areas that are still controlled by the d-pad but the camera shifts to behind her.
The other third person over the shoulder bits just seem like areas that are still controlled by the d-pad but the camera shifts to behind her.
Agent Unknown
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Rindain said:
I'm beginning to get the feeling that Super Metroid's legacy is to Sakamoto what Pinkerton eventually became to Rivers Cuomo.
Still a good interview though and I like that he finally gave a bit of praise to the Prime series in that he at least agreed how well they captured the feel of the series in a FPS environment. As you said however, it's getting worrisome that he keeps emphasizing how he wants "anyone to be able to play the game."
edit: Mdk7's show floor impressions have me very concerned.
Agent Unknown said:I'm beginning to get the feeling that Super Metroid's legacy is to Sakamoto what Pinkerton eventually became to Rivers Cuomo.
So I guess Other M is Sakamoto's Green Album, i.e. a calculated attempt to bring in new fans via generic, simplified music/gameplay while taking away the heart of what made his classics so great?
I sure hope not.
Metroid Killer
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Well in terms of controls Sakamoto defintely thinks that Super Metroid was too complicated, and I guess some of the movements were quite hard to do early on.Rindain said:
But hopefully accessbility doesn't mean we can't have death. We know wall-jumping, morphball bombs, grapplingbeam, speedboosters and missiles will be in the game (and obviously a lot of other upgrades), they'll just be confined to less bottons.
Less than 2 months...
plank
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Agent Unknown said:edit: Mdk7's show floor impressions have me very concerned.
It seems to me the way this game is designed is as if its on a grid of some kind with fixed camera angles, made for D-pad controls. Going from the videos it seem like the analog stick would slow the game play down. Now I haven't played Super Metroid, but they say its pace is what this game is based off of.
robor
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Just thought I'd post this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oXKtl1xa3g&feature=related. Even though the user states he's playing horribly, I must say he's displayed the best use of the controls/mechanics I've seen yet from this game at E3. Static play is quite an interesting form of strategy, you can see it in this clip, the auto-lock function has quite a bit if depth. I'm feeling a lot more confident now.
robor
Member
^Seriously, check it at the 5:49 mark, that is the BEST use of the dodge mechanic I've seen thus far. Soooo good. Oh and I'm seeing some potential bullet deflection using the walls to hit your enemies (or perhaps something else entirely). Looks like it could be a new high-end skill (like the bomb climb etc) for us hardcore players. How splendid.
Agent Unknown
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Rindain said:
Haha, nice.
Same here.
Ushojax said:
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. Please tell me when was Metroid as a series ever viewed as immediately accessible to anyone? Sure, it's always had intuitive controls (well, that's what I thought but Sakamoto feels differently now, go figure), but it's a series which has never been designed for novices, it's always been built on a reputation of coherently structured high levels of challenge. I'm still holding out plenty of optimism for the game, don't get me wrong. I just find some of his statements concerning.
edit: From the video posted above: "Blue dude: Freeze guns authorized! And Samus, I'm authorizing missile use!" CRINGE Still looks nice, though.
Metroid Killer
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But the European release date is September, though a specific date hasn't been announced.richisawesome said:
Those dodges looks really nice in that video above. Also I can't wait to see how the Varia Suit is gonna look like, and also how huge and epic the bosses are gonna be.
Rindain said:
Just because you're not isolated on a strange planet, doesnt mean that you still wont run into an area over run with odd lifeforms, new themes, etc.
I just hope they nail the music with some awesome remixes, new themes, have a great Ridley fight, and bring back Kraid.
I dont see where the worry is coming from, since there has never been a bad main series Metroid game.
robor
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Teknoman said:
Just because you're not isolated on a strange planet, doesnt mean that you still wont run into an area over run with odd lifeforms, new themes, etc.
I just hope they nail the music with some awesome remixes, new themes, have a great Ridley fight, and bring back Kraid.
I dont see where the worry is coming from, since there has never been a bad main series Metroid game.
:lol Metroid fanboys are truly one of a kind aren't they? Nice avatar by the way, Akihiko Yoshida?
Agent Unknown
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Like everyone, I just want this game to really stand out in the series for quality. In the end it's going to be interesting to see how Other M stacks up against all of Retro's current work, especially now that they're making their first ever platformer.
donkey show
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LOL, that's my vid. :lolrobor said:
I just jumped in on the second part of the demo without playing the game beforehand. It does take a bit to get used to, but dodging is definitely very fun.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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DragonGirl
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I don't think it would be exactly fair to compare Other M to Retro's Prime series. Other M sits more in line with the 2-D games and would be best compared to them. If it's better than Fusion then it's good enough.
Though in defense of Fusion, the SA-X was a great element and provided some of my favorite video game "oh shit!" moments.
Though in defense of Fusion, the SA-X was a great element and provided some of my favorite video game "oh shit!" moments.
Man, you guys, this is making me want to replay lots of Metroid games. 
Also; I just hope there's alot of upgrades/weapons to 'authorize'/find, because so far the rest of the gameplay seems fine. Not too keen on the cinematics, but we'll save it for a Metroid reboot franchise in 2012.
I'm terribly happy I've got an original super metroid
Too bad moonwalking's not in this game.
Also; I just hope there's alot of upgrades/weapons to 'authorize'/find, because so far the rest of the gameplay seems fine. Not too keen on the cinematics, but we'll save it for a Metroid reboot franchise in 2012.
I'm terribly happy I've got an original super metroid
Too bad moonwalking's not in this game.
Metroid Killer
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I agree. And while I absolutely LOVE the Prime games and think they are some amazing games, I think they should be considered as a sorta spin-off trilogy compared to the other Metroid games. And eventhough Sakamoto helped a little on the Prime games they weren't really his games.DragonGirl said:
If you guys haven't checked out the Neogaf Perler thread, there's a reason to do now. Snytbaggen has recreated one of my favorite Super Metroid sprites with mini beads.
Looks really nice!
Agent Unknown
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Metroid Killer said:
I disagree. The first Metroid Prime is almost perfect to me and is just as high quality of an entry into the series as Super Metroid in my opinion. I concur Echoes and (especially) Corruption while very good games feel a bit spin-off'ish due to their very different settings and characters but Prime 1 captured SM's legacy and the atmosphere and basic styles of the older games very well.
Agent Unknown said:
Have you replayed Echoes? My second time through I enjoyed A LOT more. Most well designed room layout/connection of the whole trilogy. It also had a couple thematic elements that carried throughout the whole game (colour theme, enemies, ect.). Plus the luminoth are awesome.
Agent Unknown
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Gilby said:
Yeah, the Luminoth are really cool, every bit as interesting as the Chozo. Echoes is my brother's fave in the trilogy. Back in 06/07 he managed to beat the GC version and got 100% and he only had to consult a guide once. I really like the game too, it's my 2nd fave of the three games and as you said it has fantastic level layout and I appreciate how Retro endeavored to make the game tough as nails (not saying the pre-trilogy disc spider guardian was a good thing mind you
). I also love how Yamamoto put in a remix of Super Metroid's Brinstar/Red Earth theme for Torvus Bog and the old NES Metroid room/transition "beeping" theme every time you finish a guardian/boss.