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MGM Sued over Two Films Missing from James Bond Box Set
- Thread starter Sanjuro
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Practically the entirety of this hinges on literally the words "ALL 24 BOND FILMS". They're probably going to take some numbers into account. I don't see the point in downplaying them as 'codenames' when they're just as referenced in press media come preproduction time.
According to http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/th...es-bond-box-set-missing-two-bond-films-992172 they do not mention all 24 movies.
This is the actual one being sued over:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006U1J5ZY/?tag=neogaf0e-20
It says ALL the Bond movies and later says it includes 22.
Bobby Roberts
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Having the ghost with an appearance of Danny DeVito visit you in the middle of the night to correct your usage of Lucasfilm vs. Disney sounds frightening.
Especially when I spectrally drag ass out of a couch or something.
Utterly rubbish lawsuit from a money hungry person.
If you care enough to realize that there are 2 movies missing, then you probably should have realized that when the freaking box say "ALL 24 FILMS". Nothing misleading about that. The movies are also listed on the side of the box, and the Bond actor from the missing movies isn't on the cover.
If you care enough to realize that there are 2 movies missing, then you probably should have realized that when the freaking box say "ALL 24 FILMS". Nothing misleading about that. The movies are also listed on the side of the box, and the Bond actor from the missing movies isn't on the cover.
GoldenEye 007
Member
I think you mean the missing 20+ actors/actresses that were James Bond.Utterly rubbish lawsuit from a money hungry person.
If you care enough to realize that there are 2 movies missing, then you probably should have realized that when the freaking box say "ALL 24 FILMS". Nothing misleading about that. The movies are also listed on the side of the box, and the Bond actor from the missing movies isn't on the cover.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
There was other media created for Star Wars outside of Episodes I-VI at the time, no? So as part of the universe and loosely based on the franchise as a whole, they all count too.
No. Only other "film" was the Clone Wars one. Star Wars saga implies the actual main series, not the single spin-off film. The Star Wars set's advertising was fair at the time. It was the complete saga.
excelsiorlef
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No. Only other "film" was the Clone Wars one. Star Wars saga implies the actual main series, not the single spin-off film. The Star Wars set's advertising was fair at the time. It was the complete saga.
But Clone Wars was in continuity and part of Anakin's story.
Complete Saga if you want to argue purely on words should include it.
LostCaress
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Is Never Say Never a Bond film? Can MGM (because they own the rights) sell Never Say Never and advertise it as a Bond movie?
Is Never Say Never a Bond film? Can MGM (because they own the rights) sell Never Say Never and advertise it as a Bond movie?
It's always been a legally licensed Bond film.
Anyone who knows that Never Say Never exists knows that it is a weird legal wrinkle and not a mainline bond film.
And Casino Royale is a fucking comedy that is clearly not in continuity and not considered a true bond film
What's "in continuity" in regards to Bond films? Is Dr. No in continuity with Skyfall? Is Moonraker in continuity with Goldeneye?
I'm not sure Bond "canon" matters in this instance.
The excuse "a list of movies is written in the back of the box" isn't valid. I'm not a Bond fan and I could gift this box to someone and I wouldn't like if it didn't really include all. I have no obligation of knowing all movies, and if it says "all" I wouldn't even check the list of movies... Wtf, it says All. All. All.
John Dunbar
correct about everything
Anyone who knows that Never Say Never exists knows that it is a weird legal wrinkle and not a mainline bond film.
And Casino Royale is a fucking comedy that is clearly not in continuity and not considered a true bond film
if you are selling "all bond films", it's reasonable to expect every film where sean connery was bond. it's not reasonable to think a consumer is familiar with the production history of 1980s films.
So you agree that they could have avoided being dishonest but didn't.
Not at all, no. I believe they could've been clearer, but I don't feel they were dishonest.
Azure Dream
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Utterly rubbish lawsuit from a money hungry person.
If you care enough to realize that there are 2 movies missing, then you probably should have realized that when the freaking box say "ALL 24 FILMS". Nothing misleading about that. The movies are also listed on the side of the box, and the Bond actor from the missing movies isn't on the cover.
You don't have to know the exact number of Bond films to later realize that something's missing. I can't tell you how many Sonic games there are off the top of my head, but if Sega put out a set of "All 56 Sonic Games!", but it ended up missing Sonic Labyrinth and Sonic Shuffle, maybe Tails Skypatrol too, I'd notice that. But I wouldn't realize to look for them on the packaging, initially.
Anyone who knows that Never Say Never exists knows that it is a weird legal wrinkle and not a mainline bond film.
And Casino Royale is a fucking comedy that is clearly not in continuity and not considered a true bond film
I knew about the Peter Sellers Casino Royale, but not Never Say Never Again. Only thing I remember about it was that it was written by Rhold Dahl. Had no idea it was in some way "unofficial". Given that it stars Sean Connery, I'd have assumed it fell under the same umbrella as the other Bond movies.
For background, I have seen every Bond movie except the last one, have been watching them since I was a kid, and my controversial favorites are Live and Let Die, and The Man with the Golden Gun. I knew there was a funky thing with the movie rights, but always just assumed it was the George Lazenby flick. I'd be confused and irritated if I bought a set containing "all" the Bond movies, and found one of the Connery films was missing.
As for the number, I had no idea how many Bond movies there were until this thread; and I'd never have been able to name them all in order to double-check the list on the box from memory.
I wouldn't have been surprised if the set happened to be missing whatever the latest couple of films were; but to me, and I suspect most other casual fans who might care enough about the franchise to (try to) buy a complete set, "all" implies every Connery, Moore, Dalton, and Brosnan movie at the very least.
I call shenanigans.
I knew about the Peter Sellers Casino Royale, but not Never Say Never Again. Only thing I remember about it was that it was written by Rhold Dahl.
You seem to be confusing You Only Live Twice with Never Say Never Again.
I can't see how you would assume OHMSS as the "unofficial one". That makes no sense. Diamonds Are Forever opens up continuing directly from OHMSS with Bond hunting Blofeld for murdering his wife. And For Your Eyes Only's opening scene is also a continuation of what happened in OHMSS showing Tracy's grave stone and dealing with revenge on Blofeld for murdering her.
I mean how can you think the only film in the pre-Craig era to have other Bond movies directly reference it and it's plot lines would be the unofficial one but not the only single Bond movie to not have the Bond theme and the only Bond film to not have any sort of gun barrel sequence?
I watched all of these when I was around 7-8 years old when I first saw these and it was pretty blatantly clear OHMSS was a direct entry in which other films had directly referenced.
Casino Royale from 1967 must never be forgotten. That film is a glorious mess, I love it.
Never Say Never Again is weird. It's a Thunderball knock-off with Sean Connery as Bond, but it's not considered an official Bond film. It's the film version of one of these 'as made famous by' cover songs you find on unlicensed 'hit collection' cd's or old Guitar Hero/Rock Band games.I knew about the Peter Sellers Casino Royale, but not Never Say Never Again. Only thing I remember about it was that it was written by Rhold Dahl. Had no idea it was in some way "unofficial". Given that it stars Sean Connery, I'd have assumed it fell under the same umbrella as the other Bond movies.
I call shenanigans that anyone could see both Thunderball and Never Say Never Again without noticing that Never Say Never Again is a remake of Thunderball without any of the traditional Bond elements such as the theme song, gun barrel, etc.
It had the same dang bad guy and same plot.
It had the same dang bad guy and same plot.
Can't believe how big this thread. The 'real' Bond movies are the 24 made by Eon. Simple as that.
Bond 1-20 share a (loose) continuity with each other, and then Craig's four movies are in their own world. So yes, Moonraker is in continuity with Goldeneye.
What's "in continuity" in regards to Bond films? Is Dr. No in continuity with Skyfall? Is Moonraker in continuity with Goldeneye?
I'm not sure Bond "canon" matters in this instance.
Bond 1-20 share a (loose) continuity with each other, and then Craig's four movies are in their own world. So yes, Moonraker is in continuity with Goldeneye.