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MGS4: And The Complete Disparity of PS3 Quality Otherwise
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Doom_Bringer
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RaijinFY said:
exactly. In motion Final Fantasy XIII just looks wayy better than MGS4. Lost Planet is also comparable because it does the same things as MGS4...lots of interactivity with the environments, destructible environments etc.
SolidSnakex
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Warm Machine
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Until there is a game behind MGS4 it doesn't look better than Lost Planet and it sure isn't in the same league as Gears of War, Huxley, Mass Effect, Quake Wars, Splinter Cell, Rainbow 6, because those are titles that look easily as good and are actual games.
CharlieDigital
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Come on, let's not forget that the MGS3 cut-scene models were no where near the in game models in poly count and details.
I don't understand how anyone can buy into the Sony hype before seeing some unscripted full game footage with AI and gameplay elements intact.
Give credit where credit is due; everything on X360 is much more palpable than PS3's hype at the moment.
I don't understand how anyone can buy into the Sony hype before seeing some unscripted full game footage with AI and gameplay elements intact.
Give credit where credit is due; everything on X360 is much more palpable than PS3's hype at the moment.
SolidSnakex
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briefcasemanx said:
And that'd be missing the point of the series. It looks good because of the entire package. They don't just sit and focus on 1 or 2 areas of a games visuals. The color filter is part of the series artstyle.
CharlieDigital said:
:lol :lol
Doom_Bringer
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the best thing mgs4 is the destructible environments, I don't think it has a filter at this point... too bad the frame rate was messed up
tsp_gatmog
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CharlieDigital said:
wait, what?
it's all the same, dude. theres even some slow down in the cut scenes :lol
MGs 4 uses shaders.
YEah, nice CG. And Mgs4 looks pretty great asthetically...but the environments were kinda blah, framerate was all over the place, Texture work was pretty uneven, what allways shines is animation. I would say it's the best looking game on the PS3 right now anyway.
Edited: No need to mention games from other systems.
ELS-01X said:
YEah, nice CG. And Mgs4 looks pretty great asthetically...but the environments were kinda blah, framerate was all over the place, Texture work was pretty uneven, what allways shines is animation. I would say it's the best looking game on the PS3 right now anyway.
Edited: No need to mention games from other systems.
tsp_gatmog
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Insertia said:
even then, they wouldnt be that big of an issue.
MGS3's e3/OPM demo had really bad slowdown in some areas, and by the time the final game came out, they were almost 100% gone in those areas.
SolidSnakex
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Shompola said:
Probably to help him kill even when unarmed with his sword.
Barry Lightning
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CharlieDigital said:
this thread was never about other systems, tho. i dont know why this is trailing off. it says it right in the subject.
also - i'd just like to mention: watch snake's face as he's placing the gun in his mouth. nay - as he's contemplating putting the gun in his mouth...the muhfucka is emoting, it's crazy.
Alex Teh Lerge
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the picture on the top left is probably the most photorealistic i've seen in a game. wow at the wall.Insertia said:
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Tyrone Slothrop
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you guys can be kind of loopy sometimes. all ps3 games look fine
if that doesnt appease you then i hope the 2nd/3rd gen of ps3 games will
if that doesnt appease you then i hope the 2nd/3rd gen of ps3 games will
It's true that X360 stuff is much more palpable at the moment as the SYSTEM IS ACTUALLY AVAILABLE. The thing is, I'm not terribly impressed with what it has done so far. Many of PS3's actual realtime demos/games looked more impressive, detailed, and polished than what I've seen on 360 (and was shown at E3). Whether it all pans out in the end, I don't know, but I'm holding onto that hope simply because what they have shown is what I'd like to see.CharlieDigital said:
I trust many of those PS3 developers, though. What Kojima, Naughty Dog, and the like show will likely be entirely accurate. They have NEVER faked a trailer in the past and I don't believe they'd start now. Stuff like 8 Days I have no faith in as those fellows HAVE faked us out...but many of the developers did not. MGS2 and 3 looked just as good as their original trailers (actually, better). Kojima is aiming for 60 fps gameplay in MGS4 as well, and I think they'll reach it...
Count Chocula
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Konami, Squaresoft, Capcom have always been ahead of the graphics curve . Also Factor 5 of course.
I think Heavenly Sword is closer to what we should expect from typical PS3 developers.
I think Heavenly Sword is closer to what we should expect from typical PS3 developers.
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Count Chocula said:
I don't think it's 'typical' if it's being funded from Sony, SOE withstanding.
SolidSnakex
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EviLore said:
Heh you've gotta wonder if Kojima's mind on Raiden being playable is going to change before the games release. Within a day of that trailer being released he's went from most wanting not to play as him to almost everyone wanting him to be playable at some point in the game.
gutter_trash
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Art direction goes a long way and counts for a lot.
Unlike most 360 Sci-Fi FPS games where everyone looks the same and generic to the point that you can't tell them apart.
MGS4's character designs stand out alot. They are realistic and in the same time unique,, look all the faces of the MGS4 cast in the trailer,, every character is distinguishbly different and realistic in the same time and it works well
then look at Tom CLancy games,, were every bady and goody look a like and you don't give a crap who you are talking too because everyone is the same
Unlike most 360 Sci-Fi FPS games where everyone looks the same and generic to the point that you can't tell them apart.
MGS4's character designs stand out alot. They are realistic and in the same time unique,, look all the faces of the MGS4 cast in the trailer,, every character is distinguishbly different and realistic in the same time and it works well
then look at Tom CLancy games,, were every bady and goody look a like and you don't give a crap who you are talking too because everyone is the same
brandonh83
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WalkMan said:
That'd be hot. :lol
Alex Teh Lerge
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right after that shot, when raidens coat is ont he metal gears camera can you make a gif of that? the self shadowing was insane on the coat.EviLore said:Hey, folks, how about I bring out my dormant E3-fueled aggression? It'll be fun. Just avoid the disintegration rays coming out of my eyes.
Or maybe this thread can be salvaged. We'll see.
gutter_trash said:
This is going to blow your mind, but at present there's one sci-fi first person shooter on the 360, and that's Quake 4. As for planned games, Halo 3 is the only other one that comes to mind. Mass Effect, Too Human, Huxley, Gears of War, etc. are not first person shooters at all.
Doom_Bringer
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EviLore said:
Metal Gear Own3d. :lol I really like these new metal gears and their tactics. Climbing walls, hiding in clever spots, chasing people inside houses, plowing through arabs! and so on... These new metal gears are fucking aweome!
Alex Teh Lerge
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Wow, I thought I was only one who noticed that. The thing with MGS is they model their charactersd after real actors/people so they have distinguishing features.gutter_trash said:
Otacon - GUy from Full Metal Jacket
Noaimi- MOnica Belluci
Ocelot - looks like someone Im sure
briefcasemanx said:
Umm..
And no, Lost planet doesn't look better than MGS4. The most bizarre insult is "At least Lost Planet is a game!". What the fuck? MGS4 is extremely early in production. It was never supposed to be shown at TGS. This was it's premiere. It's a year behind, give it time. Nobody was playing Gears of War either at this time in it's production. They're still working on the gameplay system, the game is looking amazing, and Kojima says he's not happy with the visuals yet. Give the team time to set that in stone, do what he wants with the graphics, fix the slowdown and then let's judge.
Just imagine if we all judged Gears of War during it's very first clips. They had some massive slowdown going on. They fixed it though, added some damn good animation to the game, and it's looking great.
If you honestly can't find anything good to look at in the MGS4 trailer, then fine, but don't start giving these lame comments on it not being a game yet. Of course it's not, it's in development. Everything about it sounds incredible though, and I'm willing to give Kojima the benefit of the doubt that it will be awesome in-game like the rest of the series.
karasu
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J2 Cool said:Umm..
And no, Lost planet doesn't look better than MGS4. The most bizarre insult is "At least Lost Planet is a game!". What the fuck? MGS4 is extremely early in production. It was never supposed to be shown at TGS. This was it's premiere. It's a year behind, give it time. Nobody was playing Gears of War either at this time in it's production. They're still working on the gameplay system, the game is looking amazing, and Kojima says he's not happy with the visuals yet. Give the team time to set that in stone, do what he wants with the graphics, fix the slowdown and then let's judge.
Just imagine if we all judged Gears of War during it's very first clips. They had some massive slowdown going on. They fixed it though, added some damn good animation to the game, and it's looking great.
If you honestly can't find anything good to look at in the MGS4 trailer, then find, but don't start giving these lame comments on it not being a game yet. Of course it's not, it's in development. Everything about it sounds incredible though, and I'm willing to give Kojima the benefit of the doubt that it will be awesome in-game like the rest of the series.
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