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mgs4 scans - bosses shown
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Shalashaska
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Wow, looks crazy. Fighting against them will be insane.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Whoa, that's just nutty! I can't wait to fight them!!
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
kojima.... ;(Borys said:
The bosses look like crap. Kojima should have make it feel more real like in MGS1. This is stupid.
Sigh. The more I see of this game the more it brings me reluctantly back, body and soul, to MGS2 with all the gene control ambiguity and Fatman quality boss designs. Also, I guess Kojima isn't quite done with his Doc Octopus obsession a la Solidus and now ZOE mechs and Strider dogs.
Also, I'm not usually one to complain about violence in games ever, but the scenes with the insurgents getting slaughtered by these high tech monstrosities feel quite gratuitous. I wonder why MGS4 is so much more visually explicit in terms of gore and brutality than its predecessors?
Also, I'm not usually one to complain about violence in games ever, but the scenes with the insurgents getting slaughtered by these high tech monstrosities feel quite gratuitous. I wonder why MGS4 is so much more visually explicit in terms of gore and brutality than its predecessors?
AltogetherAndrews
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Aggelos said:
Remind me never to move near whatever creepy mental institution you know of that houses wackos like these.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
They are all women?!!
Intriguing.
Intriguing.
Master Z said:
Not sure at all, Otacon did Metal Gear REX, can't remember anything about his father but his grandfather did participate on Project Manhattan.
I kinda like the idea of the bosses having names reminiscent of the bosses from MGS1. Seems like Liquid still holds a grudge over what happenned in MGS1 or the patriots are messing with Snake like they did with Raiden.
If MGS4 ends the Metal Gear Solid arc it might be great. Franchise reboot after this, please!
chespace said:
I don't know if you're trying to imply something like Kojipro trying to "sell out" by going after western gorehounds who like GeOW.
MGS2 and 3 were pretty brutal as well. MGS1 - although limited by its graphics - had that gruesome ninja corridor scene. And with MGS4 being set in an ongoing war, they simply gotta turn the violence up a notch if they want to keep things authentic. People getting sliced in half is kind of nuts, but you most likely won't see any guts seeping out and it probably won't happen in actual gameplay situations.
freethought
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TheExorzist said:
What's your point though? Grounding the story in familiar settings is a hallmark of science fiction. But just because MGS3 tied into the Cuban Missile Crisis and Kojima gave some explanation as to the nature of the threat REX signified to a world in a similar state to our own doesn't mean there can't be crazy robots and people with superhuman abilities everywhere.
I mean it's freaking Metal Gear, the whole plot of MGS2 kicks off (the Shell section anyway) because a former President of the United States of America takes the current President hostage. Why you ask? Well, it turns out he was a clone of a legendary soldier given the Presidency (which as it turns out is more of a titular deal anyway) by a shadowy group who may or may not have been dead for over a century only to become disenchanted with his role as a marionette.
But yeah, I see why you would draw the line at robots, a staple of the series since the first game.
Jon_Danger
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M3wThr33 said:
not sarcasm, but... I just got here, and first heard the names.
Mattlikewhoa
Member
I don't have a problem with the way they look...
Ganondorfo
Junior Member
Hideo-san owns
Zone of the enders and metal gear in one game yes
Metal gear solid 4= zone of the enders 3 + metal gear solid
Zone of the enders and metal gear in one game yes
Metal gear solid 4= zone of the enders 3 + metal gear solid
Jon_Danger
Member
godhandiscen said:
what is realistic about MGS1?
SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE!
Telekinetic bosses?
One on One with a tank
A giant robot?
cmon now.
Ceb said:I don't know if you're trying to imply something like Kojipro trying to "sell out" by going after western gorehounds who like GeOW.
MGS2 and 3 were pretty brutal as well. MGS1 - although limited by its graphics - had that gruesome ninja corridor scene. And with MGS4 being set in an ongoing war, they simply gotta turn the violence up a notch if they want to keep things authentic. People getting sliced in half is kind of nuts, but you most likely won't see any guts seeping out and it probably won't happen in actual gameplay situations.
KDF assemble?
Nope, not implying anything along the lines of what you're thinking.
Simply wondering why they turned the violence up to 11 this time around. I guess the ninja scenes of the past were fairly violent but nothing like what we've seen these poor insurgents go through. It actually made me uncomfortable watching the last trailer.
rollingstart
Banned
watching the video, these bosses seem badass.
I mean, more and more it seems like this mission is one Snake cant win.
I mean, more and more it seems like this mission is one Snake cant win.
Ganondorfo
Junior Member
Linkzg said:
Snake is unbeatable you hear me?
rollingstart
Banned
Ganondorfo said:
until his back gives out
chespace said:KDF assemble?
Nope, not implying anything along the lines of what you're thinking.
Simply wondering why they turned the violence up to 11 this time around. I guess the ninja scenes of the past were fairly violent but nothing like what we've seen these poor insurgents go through. It actually made me uncomfortable watching the last trailer.
Kojima hates muslims confirmed.
p.s. if the bosses are all women, it would explain that prolonged shot of that strider dog's ass.
not only the ninja scene, but Vamp in MGS2 also.
I dont think it was way too violent, they are just showing how powerful and vicious these enemies are.
Red Blaster
Member
chespace said:
The particularly extreme violence in this trailer was obviously done to make the bosses look intimidating. But I don't understand why you feel that this is gratuitous. Metal Gear has never been skittish from graphic violence. In MGS2 there was that scene where Vamp slits that Navy SEALS' throat and a fountain of blood erupts from his neck, and of course Snake's torture in MGS3.
chespace said:KDF assemble?
Nope, not implying anything along the lines of what you're thinking.
Simply wondering why they turned the violence up to 11 this time around. I guess the ninja scenes of the past were fairly violent but nothing like what we've seen these poor insurgents go through. It actually made me uncomfortable watching the last trailer.
Kojima hates muslims confirmed.
p.s. if the bosses are all women, it would explain that prolonged shot of that strider dog's ass.
Middle East =! Muslims.
what i mean is that they could be Arabs or even non Arabs (Persian for example) without being Muslims.
Ganondorfo
Junior Member
bluemax said:
Kojima plays a tribute to everything he loves, so he must be a big mega man fan
Phoenix Down
Banned
Kojima is a genius.... I wonder what negative things the TXB guys about the Bosses.. i want a laugh
..pakbeka..
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even the sky and the sun are green....
chespace said:
People got skewered by Gray Fox. You could see the exposed ribs on their corpses. In Twin Snakes, a dude gets cut in half, from top to bottom.
MGS2 had soldiers with a lot more hit zones and who's bodies remained and bled a whole lot. In the cutscenes, you had people getting crushed by Ray, getting drowned like rats, gunshots to the head at close proximity, tentacle strangulation, gorey throat slashing...
MGS3 had killer bees, people wasted in big explosions, CQC knife slashing, Granin getting beaten to death, Snake getting brutally tortured and having one of his eyes shot out, soldiers getting run over by a big fucking tank...
MGS4 probably seems more graphic to you because the visuals have improved so much. But the actual content hasn't really changed. The camera cuts away for most of the Gekko smashing, and also for Laughing Octopus' coil strangling.
They're not insurgents, they're militiamen, defending their own country. Also, there's no indication that Kojima hates middle-easterners, as he leaves choosing which side to join on to the player.chespace said:KDF assemble?
Nope, not implying anything along the lines of what you're thinking.
Simply wondering why they turned the violence up to 11 this time around. I guess the ninja scenes of the past were fairly violent but nothing like what we've seen these poor insurgents go through. It actually made me uncomfortable watching the last trailer.
Kojima hates muslims confirmed.
p.s. if the bosses are all women, it would explain that prolonged shot of that strider dog's ass.
Also, no idea if Wolf has a gender. The guy said the translation is "Beauty and Beast," meaning Raven is a chick too, but I guess saying they're victims of war would include Wolf, so eh, whatever.
Do you really find the amount of violence that surprising? Its a war, expect violence.
Jon_Danger said:
MGS1 isn't "realistic" but it's nowhere near as cuckoo as the other games and you're being deliberately obstinate not to see that.
there is a huge difference between the bosses in MGS1 and the subsequent games. in MGS1 it could all be grouped under "paranormal". a psychic soldier was as outlandish as it got. but MGS2 is far and away more out there. Vampires? Roller blading? total fantasy.
Actually, it "wasn't happening."Ceb said:
if you ever played Eternal Darkness, there was something called a Sanity bar where, once you got fairly low, you'd start experiencing hallucinations, and shit would happen that wasn't real. There was no body that was cut in half in the hallway, it didn't really happen.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Man, those things look *scary*, and move in an even scarier ways. Fights against them will be insane. There's something about female soldier cyborgs that makes them that much scarier. Perhaps the conflicting sense between that "you're not supposed to hurt the fairer sex" and realization that you're looking at something that can mutilate and kill you in split second, whenever it choses to.
Besides, I'd say what, about 90% of bosses in MGS games are mental wackos, so this is perfectly par for the course.
Perhaps mental institution wackos on Iron Cyberland where you must be living :-DAggelos said:
Besides, I'd say what, about 90% of bosses in MGS games are mental wackos, so this is perfectly par for the course.
Zenith said:
Yea, although I think these new bosses are interesting and cool, I hope that there are also more "human" bosses spread out, with more story to them.
I'm replaying MGS1 and the characters are just so awesome... the bosses all have great characterization. I hope that as weird as these bosses are, there's some kind of interesting story to tie them all to the plot.
Fighting these guys will definitely be a good time though
PepsimanVsJoe
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Phoenix Down said:
Who the fuck cares?
BTW: I like how two of the new bosses(Octopus and um...Psycho) have fully modelled feet, toes and everything. I think I'm going to be really weirded out when I'm pausing in the middle of boss fights to check out their nice looking feet(well nice being a relative term considering their crazy armor/DNA/skin/whatever)
At least the bosses are cool looking, unlike the gang from MGS2 =/.
InterMoniker
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Glad you were joking about the muslim's we don't need another racial game debate.chespace said:Okay, I was joking about the muslim part. I forgot to include this
Relax. Bosses are still retarded.
The bosses have always been crazy. Psychomantis was F-cking Wierd in the first game and made Meryl say some really weird stuff. MGS2 had Vamp, Fatman, and a bunch of crazy characters. Personally I like the crazy bosses since they all have different strengths. The "retarded" bosses makes things more interesting and gives a lot of different gameplay to each boss. Rather than getting in a boring shoot out for every boss. Plus the games have always been gory from MGS1-3.
Oh yeah I'm loving the amount of gore!
So wait... Vampires are not paranormal? And "paranormal" is not fantasy? I agree that it has gotten 'thicker' over time, more freaks in rapid succession, so to speak, but actually freakier (Psycho Mantis, Vulcan Raven, Grey Fox, Decoy Octopus, less freaky?)? No, that's a stretch. "Conventional" paranormal characters are still paranormal (fantasy, sci-fi) characters, no matter which way you cut it.Zenith said: