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Michael Jackson apparently had a child pornography collection

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Robso

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Tom Sneddon is cold man. He sought to build a career out of pulling down Michael Jackson and he failed. Shame, so many people just take his and the press' word as gospel.

Yep. Sneddon was a piece of shit who had NUMEROUS complaints in his career. He went after Michael Jackson like no famous person has ever been hounded.

Strip search in 1993 which broke MJ's constitutional rights due to vitiligo spots changing.

69 search warrants in 2003 on properties, security boxes and financial records etc.

Broke terms of the search warrant on Neverland.

Changed the dates of alleged molestation THREE TIMES!

Leaked information to the media constantly.

Denied the defence important documents.

Participated in jobs district attorneys aren't qualified to do.

And more. Yet he never found ANY incriminating evidence.
 

Trash

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Yep. Sneddon was a piece of shit who had NUMEROUS complaints in his career. He went after Michael Jackson like no famous person has ever been hounded.

Strip search in 1993 which broke MJ's constitutional rights due to vitiligo spots changing.

69 search warrants in 2003 on properties, security boxes and financial records etc.

Broke terms of the search warrant on Neverland.

Changed the dates of alleged molestation THREE TIMES!

Leaked information to the media constantly.

Denied the defence important documents.

Participated in jobs district attorneys aren't qualified to do.

And more. Yet he never found ANY incriminating evidence.

is your enter key freaking out or something?
 
Pretty much, a shame.

Yeah and it will always be like this. I;ve now seen enough comments from folks that make me not even want to bother with this shit anymore. Too many times have i tried to let people see it from another point of view, the more educated point of view, the point of view from a person whom did lots of research instead of parrroting everything the media says and believing it right away.

At this point it's just a huge waste of time. For myself...i just know...ok hold on...i can never know, but not for a second do i believe the guy had it in him to hurt a child.
 
You guys know you're allowed to still like his music without making horrible contortionist logic conspiracy theory posts to convince yourself he didn't fuck children, right?
 

Syder

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Yeah and it will always be like this. I;ve now seen enough comments from folks that make me not even want to bother with this shit anymore. Too many times have i tried to let people see it from another point of view, the more educated point of view, the point of view from a person whom did lots of research instead of parrroting everything the media says and believing it right away.

At this point it's just a huge waste of time. For myself...i just know...ok hold on...i can never know, but not for a second do i believe the guy had it in him to hurt a child.
Too many tabloid junkies in here.Glad there are at least a few people, like you, in here that engage in critical thinking and deal in facts.

You guys know you're allowed to still like his music without making horrible contortionist logic conspiracy theory posts to convince yourself he didn't fuck children, right?
Joke post. You have to bend logic to make a convincing argument that Michael Jackson was guilty.
 

Robso

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Here's more that the scumbag media won't tell you.

In 2005 the prosecution wanted Evan Chandler to testify. His brother, Ray, said Evan was too ill with cancer. Yet two months after the trial's conclusion Evan managed to find the strength to try to kill Jordan with a dumbbell and mace spray.

Ray Chandler wrote a tell all book about the 1993 case. He went around media sources bringing up the supposed terrible time his nephew endured. He claimed to have incriminating files. In 2005 the prosecution never bothered to call him to testify. However, guess who did? Michael Jackson's defence! They wanted to bring a member from the Chandler family to testify. No guilty man does that.

The Chandler's instead of going to police demanded $20 million.

The Chandler's state in Ray's book they never wanted to testify and wanted a civil trial only where money can be won.

Jordan Chandler said his Father saved him from MJ and it was the 'best day of his life'. After the civil settlement Jordan emancipated from his Father and Mother.
 

dakun

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You guys know you're allowed to still like his music without making horrible contortionist logic conspiracy theory posts to convince yourself he didn't fuck children, right?

who cares about music. People are airing out the truth about the allegations and it doesn't quite fit into the bullshit you ate up from the media all these years.
 
The only laughable thing is that people so easily believe this stuff. It actually is VERY understandable how there is a defence force dude, because the amount of misinfo and lies spread by tabloids is absolutely crazy.

I blasted the OP articles as bogus, but I have to say that I was taken in by the easy idea that he 'probably was a pedo', which I claimed earlier in this thread. I don't think I honestly looked at all of the information. The more I hear, the less I think he actually was a pedo.
 

Anth0ny

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You guys know you're allowed to still like his music without making horrible contortionist logic conspiracy theory posts to convince yourself he didn't fuck children, right?

I stopped watching Chris Benoit matches after he killed his wife and kid

I'd probably stop listening to MJ music if he was a child molester

Luckily he's not!
 

Wolfe

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You guys know you're allowed to still like his music without making horrible contortionist logic conspiracy theory posts to convince yourself he didn't fuck children, right?

Ok that's great, haven't noticed anyone doing that but thanks for the contribution.

So is this 100% confirmed to be true?

There should be a system in place where you can't reply to a thread until you've read it up to that point :p

It was already bad, but now this video now plays completely differently. Damn!

What? No it doesn't, this is all known stuff.
 

LionPride

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You guys know you're allowed to still like his music without making horrible contortionist logic conspiracy theory posts to convince yourself he didn't fuck children, right?

Nah, with certain shit you can't separate the art and the artist. R. Kelly, Cosby, hell David Bowie is someone I barely fuck with for what he did.
 

DOWN

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Mmm if I'm understanding what I've read, there's still no evidence here that he did anything sexual regarding minors, including possessing porn
 
Ignore what the media say and actually do your own research. The media won't tell you that...

When Evan Chandler met Michael Jackson after his son, Jordan, had supposedly confessed to being molested Evan HUGGED him then laid out his monetary demands.

They won't tell you Evan wanted to make a music album about his son's supposed abuse.

You won't be told that the Arvizo's in 2005 claimed they were held captive at Neverland, yet the Mother managed to spend $3000 at MJ's expense during this time.

You won't be informed that the Arvizo's had a history of false sex abuse allegations.

They won't repeat at Gavin Arvizo's wedding 'The Way You Make Me Feel' being played and him 'smiling' and just 'shrugging his shoulders'.

They won't tell you the district attorney changed the dates of alleged molestation in 2005 THREE TIMES as Michael Jackson wasn't at Neverland on the first two dates.

They won't tell you Wade Robson's sister was selling Michael Jackson memorabilia on eBay.
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mantidor

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Yeah this is not new.

Also it's more like Mapelthorpe "porn" charges than actual child pornography though.

I still don't think he was a sane man or should had been allowed to be around children though.
 

Robso

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What does that prove?

You do realise that the dates of alleged molestation occurred after the Bashir documentary, right?

When police were investigating, child services investigating and the media in uproar we're meant to believe MJ decided 'I'm innocent, but I'll abuse the child so the police investigation isn't in vain'? It's something not well known. The alleged molestation occurred AFTER the Bashir documentary and it makes no sense.

You also realise that MJ actually wanted nothing to do with the Arvizo's. He only wanted them for the documentary. Contact had long stopped and he never gave them his new number until Bashir was filming. He'd discovered that they were a bunch of money grabbing scum bags who staff hated.
 

cirrhosis

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At some point I have to question why so many people seemingly want to believe the guy molested children.

as soon as I saw this thread skyrocket in posts every time i refreshed the OT main page I knew exactly what kind of posts would be in here
 

The Beard

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I'd argue that given all the scrutiny, Michael Jackson's bed was probably the safest place for a child.

You obviously don't have kids. Neither do I, but I can tell you with 100% certainty there's no way in hell I would let my kid spend the night at an unrelated grown man's house and sleep in the same bed with him.
 

Syder

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You obviously don't have kids. Neither do I, but I can tell you with 100% certainty there's no way in hell I would let my kid spend the night at an unrelated grown man's house and sleep in the same bed with him.
That's the point. No one who let their kids be around Michael were unrelated to him. They did know him.
 

TaterTots

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The only laughable thing is that people so easily believe this stuff. It actually is VERY understandable how there is a defence force dude, because the amount of misinfo and lies spread by tabloids is absolutely crazy.

I suggest people read this article by GQ

Was MJ framed? Is the article. If you actually want to know just a little about the first allegations,why he settled and just much much more.

https://mjjtruthnow.wordpress.com/2...-the-record-straight-on-the-1993-allegations/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyPbeFDS-y0

If you think this whole thing is fake and a cover up you should watch the video. Something was way off with this guy.
 

Vex_

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I have to go in about 20 mins or so. Then, it is up to you guys to pester the mods to change the title to something more... accurate.
 

pompidu

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At some point I have to question why so many people seemingly want to believe the guy molested children.

Grown ass man sleeping with kids in his bed, who's kids weren't his...

There was no cameras in there so no evidence, I choose to believe he did, where there's smoke, there's fire
 

Robso

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So this is nothing and is just old stuff brought up from the 2005 case?

Yes. And also bullshit claims like 'child torture and animal torture'. The jury were shown MJ's porn and art book collection in 2005. Even journalists found 'porn day', as it was referred to, to be pointless.
 

Syder

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyPbeFDS-y0

If you think this whole thing is fake and a cover up you should watch the video. Something was way off with this guy.
I like that you countered a massive article with the same documentary that has been torn apart by critics and for which Bashir himself admitted didn't make him think MJ was guilty of anything. This documentary was made from the outset for the specific purpose of making Michael Jackson look bad.

The thing that was way off with Michael Jackson was that he had a rough upbringing a sought to fix that by spending a lot of time with children, some of whom were not family members, this was a grave mistake on his part. Two children's parents exploited his frankly reckless, child-like mentality on his own behaviour.
 

Robso

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Just to add anybody citing Bashir is laughable. There's a 'Take Two' documentary which showed Bashir to be two faced. The legitimacy of the Bashir contract is highly questionable as well.

This man took the witness stand, committed perjury, and hid behind the journalistic shield's law. When the going got tough Bashir lost his bollocks and refused to answer questions. A molestation had supposedly taken place yet Bashir wasn't interested in helping one bit.
 
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