Brofist
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I'm not so sure, some of MS past management has straight up been inept.
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Microsoft acquires Zenimax/Bethesda
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I'm not so sure, some of MS past management has straight up been inept.
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
I'm not salty I'm just debating a guy who thinks that sony is blockbuster and thinks those is the end of Sony lol, he's clearly a moronIt's a big publisher with a bunch of quality titles that will be great for Xbox and for Xbox owners.
It certainly isn't the end of Sony. They will survive and, likely thrive, just with much tougher competition, especially in the key US and UK markets.
I am enjoying every single letter of your uber-salty posts though. Keep 'em coming.
Skifi28
Member
I'd say Fallout 4 was okish.
I'm also surprised how much people suddenly care about Betheda. Doom eternal was good for sure, but anything else they've released lately has been lukewarm at best.
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Mattyp
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Doom? Wolf? Prey....?
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
They didn't make any of those games. Just published.
Iced Arcade
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you do realize after minecraft, MS bought a shit load of studios ALL of which are honoring games announced/deals in place but after that they are all xbox/pc exclusives.
I get it, exclusives suck when you own the opposite toy.
Phrixotrichus
Banned
Well, as a PC main nothing changes for me with this acquisition, but it sure is fascinating how some people suddenly pull out titles that are basically just an announcement screen at the moment like Starfield or ES6 and act like this would suddenly change things. The whole console war thing seems to be toxic to common sense.....
Like seriously, what`s the earliest this could have any significant impact on the first party roster?
3 years? And even that is just a maybe with Bethesda`s hit&miss track record.
Like seriously, what`s the earliest this could have any significant impact on the first party roster?
3 years? And even that is just a maybe with Bethesda`s hit&miss track record.
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Timberwolf25
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Basically Interplay 2.0
Microsoft publishes their games on Steam nowadays including Halo. Where have you been?
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JackNightblade
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as if you wouldnt be one of the first in line for ES6 or Fallout 5. the cope is strong ITT
TheGreatWhiteShark
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So, Microsoft, we need a new Commander Keen ... make it happen
Well ... at least they release their games for PC and even Steam now and not years later.
Senua
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But if Sony bought Bethesda you'd be saying how much of a deal this was would'nt ya
Skifi28
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Fallout 5 no, I have no trust in that. ES6 maybe, assuming it comes out at some point. I would appreciate it you don't involve me in your fanboy wars though, if they do come up with anything good I'll get it on PC.
FALCON_KICK
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MS buying Bethesda is great news if it means Sony Playstation moves back their HQ back to Japan.
Now Exclusives matter again I suppose.
Now Exclusives matter again I suppose.
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Ailynn
Faith - Hope - Love
Really, though...I've seen people act exactly like this online so often: Happy and gloating when they have the exclusives, but furious and crying about how unfair it is when the shoe is on the other foot.
It reminds me of when someone obnoxiously teabags after a win over other players, but then ragequits when someone beats them. In effect, it's the emotional maturity of someone like DarkSydePhil.
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Not that wild. Morrowind and Oblivion were also.
K.N.W.
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Warning: Speculation/Taleofmyassing
Sorry if somebody alredy posted about it, but I've still to make out this whole deal.
We know that MSFT bought Zenimax for 7.5 billion $, and that revenues where higher than 0.5 Billion $ per year ( I hope that someone with an account on some financial site can look up the exact amount for us), but let's suppose data are incorrect/outdated and it earns 1 billion $ per year, especially now that they have access to Microsoft's funds, development tools/infrastructures and marketing. It would then take approximatively 5+ years to grab back all of the initial investment, which should sound ok for such a big investment. Certainly not the best, minding the fact that I've purposely doubled revenues, but it could work. Unless.... Someone has the genius idea of platform exclusivity, at which point would cut down sales and, thus, earnings (it's hard to imagine them selling so many Xbox/GPs that PS ecosystem stops being a factor in sales, at least for some years).
So what is MSFT's plan to earn back those money???
1) Start selling games on all platforms like any third party publisher? (they already do with Minecraft)
2) This is a giant Troy Horse for gamepass, coming to PS next winter® ?
3) Sell exclusive games, at loss, until they obliterate rivals?
I'm starting to think even Microsoft doesn't know: as of right now, it's impossible to foresee how many next gen XBs and GPs are going to be in households in the next years. So they probably bought Bethesda firstly to generate buzz for XS's launch and GP, then, down the line, they will know if they'd rather sell those games as Xb exclusives, GamePass content or just like any other third party. But I don't see it fit to have all those games sold as exclusives, MSFT has still to grab those 7.5 billions back. Going third party is probably the way to go to earn as much money as possible, but also GamePass subscriptions would earn lots of money down the months. I suppose that an hybrid approach (some games sold regurarly, some launching on GP, some exclusives to XB) would be a way to find the balance for money/platform content. Again: It would be really great if someone with knowledge could clarify the situation on Zenimax's earnings.
For those who firmly believe in all Zenimax's games becoming exclusives: do the math, there are still many money bags missing!!
Sorry if somebody alredy posted about it, but I've still to make out this whole deal.
We know that MSFT bought Zenimax for 7.5 billion $, and that revenues where higher than 0.5 Billion $ per year ( I hope that someone with an account on some financial site can look up the exact amount for us), but let's suppose data are incorrect/outdated and it earns 1 billion $ per year, especially now that they have access to Microsoft's funds, development tools/infrastructures and marketing. It would then take approximatively 5+ years to grab back all of the initial investment, which should sound ok for such a big investment. Certainly not the best, minding the fact that I've purposely doubled revenues, but it could work. Unless.... Someone has the genius idea of platform exclusivity, at which point would cut down sales and, thus, earnings (it's hard to imagine them selling so many Xbox/GPs that PS ecosystem stops being a factor in sales, at least for some years).
So what is MSFT's plan to earn back those money???
1) Start selling games on all platforms like any third party publisher? (they already do with Minecraft)
2) This is a giant Troy Horse for gamepass, coming to PS next winter® ?
3) Sell exclusive games, at loss, until they obliterate rivals?
I'm starting to think even Microsoft doesn't know: as of right now, it's impossible to foresee how many next gen XBs and GPs are going to be in households in the next years. So they probably bought Bethesda firstly to generate buzz for XS's launch and GP, then, down the line, they will know if they'd rather sell those games as Xb exclusives, GamePass content or just like any other third party. But I don't see it fit to have all those games sold as exclusives, MSFT has still to grab those 7.5 billions back. Going third party is probably the way to go to earn as much money as possible, but also GamePass subscriptions would earn lots of money down the months. I suppose that an hybrid approach (some games sold regurarly, some launching on GP, some exclusives to XB) would be a way to find the balance for money/platform content. Again: It would be really great if someone with knowledge could clarify the situation on Zenimax's earnings.
For those who firmly believe in all Zenimax's games becoming exclusives: do the math, there are still many money bags missing!!
At least Oblivion came to PS3. A bit later (PS3 came also later
) but with updated textures (more space on the disc) etc and a complete edition if I remember correctly.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
FTFY
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Acquiring studios helps fix M$’ exclusive problem and should provide help even if those Zenimax, Bethesda games are hit or miss.
Bumblebeetuna
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A ton of those PS4 software sales are bundles. Everything but GTSport was bundled like crazy and hell maybe GT Sport was in the UK, idk. It’s not as impressive as people make it out to be.
lastmessiah
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You are right but most here will never admit to it. And they will still try to uphold the farce that console units sold is the ultimate metric of a company's success.
genesisblock
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
I still use it like once a week so I am hip and up to date.
Jme
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So, are you talking about BGS (the developer) or BSW (the publisher)?
Because this deal was to purchase ZeniMax Media, which includes both, plus all their studios (including Arkane, MachineGames, Tango, id, ZOS, and Alpha Dog)
tryDEATH
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Wow, said like an absolute fanboy
We’re talking about you saying Bethesda will have something new lined up for Xbox in 2021 or 2022 which we all know isn’t true, you have your moment don’t worry.
I can see by your other posts here you are literally MS PR right now, please continue.
I am excited for what has happened with this acquisition and give my opinion. You and your merry group of fanboys have been going around trying to spin multiple negative narratives from how horribly bad this is to how MS should or should not go about their newly acquired franchises with fanboy tinted glasses.
Sony fans obsession of turning anything positive about the Xbox into negative is like a gag reflex for you guys. Enjoy being in denial.
pr0cs
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I would honestly buy the hell out of this
The Fartist
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I think it's more the optics of it all, $7.5 billion, Doom, Fallout, less than a week after Sony"s show.
It's a power move for sure, but I didn't buy my PlayStation to play Bethesda games and I'm not planning on buying a PS5 to play Deathloop. This changes very little, for me. But props to Microsoft, anyway.
StreetsofBeige
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Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
This deal has been going on since 2018(the tweet is somewhere in this thread). You dont make a deal like that in less than a week.
Lovelygamer
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"Surprisingly low price": lawyers and analysts on the multibillion-dollar deal between Microsoft and Bethesda
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“Surprisingly low price”: lawyers and analysts on the multibillion-dollar deal between Microsoft and Bethesda
The $7.5 billion that Microsoft is acquiring ZeniMax Media and Bethesda for is a large sum, and it makes this deal one of the largest in the history of the gaming industry. However, the analytical firm DFC believes that this price is actually “surprisingly low”. Bethesda has many classic IP...
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TheAmazingSpiderMan
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yeah it’s quite funny to see some of u get that excited that u lose common sense, we were talking about how you say sony can’t compete after 2021 going forward with some imaginary Bethesda games that are supposedly coming in 2021????
Not sure where you got me and others trying to spin this? You claim some games are coming from Bethesda and I asked you what these are, and u can’t even answer that.
Common sense really is a luxury these days.
The Fartist
Gold Member
Sure, but they still announced it less than a week after Sony's show, still a power move. Am I missing something?
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
To be more specific the announcement happened just before preorders went live
Stiflers Mom
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SublimeAnarky
Member
MS is making a play for a larger market.
It's not just owners of Xbox consoles or PCs alone any more. They are selling gamepass.
The post you were responding to was partly right - as we're you imo.
The way to get these titles to as many people as possible is to remove the dependency of any hardware. The future of game consumption will be gamepass by Xbox. And that will be on whatever device you decide to use at a monthly fee.
We need to stop thinking console units. The game has changed.
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Sony's show was a shitshow especially when all their lies, misleading statements and misdirection came out.
tryDEATH
Member
You are the one that came out with a garbage statement like no Bethesda games for 3 to 4 years and you expect me to take you serious. A low effort post, get s low effort response. Kick on somewhere else with the fanboying.
TheContact
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regardless, TES6 and Starfield are going to sell like hotcakes. Fallout 4 sold 13.51 million units. (higher than any other fallout game)
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