Katana_Strikes
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drohne said:
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Oblivion is sorely lacking but understandable, no idea what's happened with DOA4 though...
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Microsoft confirms 'best ever' launch line-up for Europe/US
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Oblivion is sorely lacking but understandable, no idea what's happened with DOA4 though...
cybamerc said:
Id rather have 80-100 hours of gameplay from 5 or 6 good games than 20 hours of one great game in the first 3 months of the consoles lifespan.
To pre-empt the "What good games?" question.
# Perfect Dark Zero (Microsoft Game Studios)
# Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Game of the Movie(Ubisoft)
# Project Gotham Racing 3 (Microsoft Game Studios)
# Kameo: Elements of Power (Microsoft Game Studios)
# Condemned: Criminal Origins (SEGA)
# Call of Duty 2 (Activision)
And im speaking from Xbox-Halo experience.
Dav2k said:1UP says the DC launch is still the one to beat:
> http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3145578
And can some nice mod change my title and add the US bit.
That 1UP feature is weird. How can you ignore Rogue Leader or Super Monkey Ball in the Gamecube launch lineup? There are people still playing SMB today!
Same goes for Sega Saturn. Yeah, the surprise ship was odd, but I bought Daytona USA and Panzer Dragoon on day one too. Sega certainly didn't screw up the game part of things. Panzer especially was just brilliant and looked every bit as good as Ridge Racer or Toshinden did on PSX later in the year.
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Launching with 'one great game' over a lot of good ones would be a mistake. You want to appeal to the largest group of gamers possible, not just fans of one particular genre.
Sure, it would be great for the fans of that type of game, but not a good system launch.
Regardless, this launch still easily trumps the PS2 launch. SSX is fun but it isn't all that.
Sure, it would be great for the fans of that type of game, but not a good system launch.
Regardless, this launch still easily trumps the PS2 launch. SSX is fun but it isn't all that.
Dave Long said:
so you have played all those games? Not to mention games like PGR3 have infinite online replayability, and it's the first console to launch with lots of online games.
There's the whole xbox live arcade thing too. If this is not the most impressive launch ever, I don't know what is. DC 's first real launch was in Japan and wasn't exactly mind blowing. A fair comparison is to compare the Xbox 360 launch to that.
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mrklaw said:
I'm not sure how you would feel if you've never played US Football game before but it is pretty fun. Its good to understand defensive and offensive formations but it all comes down to looking for an open guy and pressing the players assigned button.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Must say, they really got the sports covered. For comparison I looked back at the Cube's luanch. They only had Madden, NHL Hitz and All-Star Baseball.. with the first Basketball game not coming untill January. You realize the first Golf game wasn't out untill a year later?
Blimblim said:
That's not what he was saying though, you are twisting the argument. He said it was average, a standard launch, nothing special. Hell, I don't think you could find one launch everyone could agree was the best. He didn't say one was better, just that this is pretty standard.
And tell me, as a RPG and Fighting game lover why should would I call this a best ever launch? If I was a FPS and racing game lover sure, but that's status quo for Xbox. I still am leaning towards DC having the best and most diverse lineup, Soul Calibur II, killer app in Sonic Adventure, NFL 2K, Hydro Thunder, etc. PSP comes in second for me with MGAcid, Lumines, RR, Wipeout, Darkstalkers and Untold Legends.
as I mentioned on the previous page of this thread, and as thorns mentioned above, .. IMO, if one is going to compare this Xbox 360 launch lineup to the Dreamcast launch lineup, it is probably more fair to compare it to the initial Japanese launch lineup, which wasn't as good, IMO...Ponn01 said:
Beer Monkey
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Explain.
BlueTsunami
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Speevy said:
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/080/080661p1.html
That seems to be the definitive list
Thats better than I had remembered....
Katana_Strikes
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Andy787 said:Yeah, I realized I misread the thread right after that post, to which I say excccellent.
I've highlighted them now so they stand out better!
Speevy said:
Armored Core 2
Dead or Alive 2: Hardcore
Dynasty Warriors 2
ESPN Winter X Games Snowboarding
Eternal Ring
Evergrace
Fantavision
Gun Griffon Blaze
Kessen
Madden NFL 2001
Midnight Club: Street Racing
Moto GP
NHL 2001
Orphen
Ready 2 Rumble: Round 2
Ridge Racer V
Silent Scope
Smuggler's Run
SSX
Street Fighter EX3
Summoner
Swing Away Golf
Tekken Tag Tournament
Timesplitters
Unreal Tournament
Wild Wild Racing
X-Squad
BlueTsunami
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Ponn01 said:
Reason why this is being said is (I believe) there was a buffer between the Japan and American release where the Xbox360 release is WorldWide. So you would have to compare the two on their relative times.
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Dav2k said:
I'm going to lean towards the dark side a bit and say its because MS wants PGR to be the killer app on launch day, spread the public's buying love across the other publishers more evenly, and use DOA to drum up more software sales in subsequent waves of xbox deliveries before christmas.
I mean, no-one who has preordered a bundle is going to go home empty handed, right? And what better way to spread the love across all publishers on launch day than remove the potential killer apps?
Later, after christmas, will be oblivion's time, just in time to drum up more sales for the console in the money drought after the new year begins.
OK, I'll take the metal cap off now.
BlueTsunami said:
Yea, but i'm not trying to analyze anything, i'm I consumer comparing what I have bought in the past to what is shown me now. What Japan launched with has no bearing in my decison what I consider a better launch lineup for where I am at. Like I'd really be standing in the store thinking to myself "Wow, I thought the Dreamcast had a better lineup when I got it, Oh wait, weren't there less games when it launched in Japan? Well in THAT case..." :lol
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Ponn01 said:
Thats true. Thats why its fool hardy to say something has definitively the best lineup. Everyone has a different view as to what a good lineup is and which had the best. I personally feel that the 360 launch doesn't have that one app that stands out (which to me would have been Oblivion). PGR3 fills that gap but I'm a RPG fan and this lineup doesn't have anything for me in that sense.
Although, I'm a racing fan second
. So PGR3 and RR makes me happy.Katana_Strikes
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For me it's only RR that is lacking for the UK launch. I can wait for Oblivion, considering it's a game you'll have to put a lot of time into. PGR3, Kameo and Condemned are gonna keep me well entertained for a few months anyways.
3 quality games at launch is just fine with me thank you!
3 quality games at launch is just fine with me thank you!
TheDuce22 said:
But what about what they launched with in America? Not even close? DC's American launch was fucking awesome. Not a lot of variety, but in terms of quality and interesting titles? Still the best launch ever in my opinion.
GC is my 2nd favorite. Super Monkey Ball + SSBM > all.
(But saying that, GC is also a very fucking far away 2nd.)
But that's just me.
I'm sorry, but there is nothing that defines the start of a new generation in that lineup. Not one original themed title like a Mario or Sonic that has mass appeal, nothing that provides a new experience like a Powerstone, and nothing that provides a large graphical leap over a previous release like Tekken Tag Tournament. Hell even SSX fort a sports title was newer than this junk. Then you've now got a $400 system as well as $60 games. As far as the current deluge of mediocrity that we are becoming desensitized to, this lineup is good, but in no way is it generation launch good. Oblivion would have helped alot for the US IMO.
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they also said halo2 was the best game ever created. :/
gollumsluvslave
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I would simply compare the 360's launch lineup to the original Xbox lineup... have MS made improvements here? Obviously the proof is in the tasting but I would say the quality here is much improved over the original Xbox launch.
There are many people here that criticised the original Xbox (or HaloBox) launch for only having one great title and a lot of filler. It seems that now MS will be critiscised for almost the opposite - not a lot of crap - most titles apear to be solid 7+ titles (No Azuriks here), but no Halo either; Damned if the do, damned if they don't.
Of course no one really new that Halo was all that until a few days before Xbox launched either... maybe PGR3 or some other title will be reviewed as well as Halo?
I would not necessarily say that this is the 'best' launch line-up ever, but it can certainly challenge for the most solid.
There are many people here that criticised the original Xbox (or HaloBox) launch for only having one great title and a lot of filler. It seems that now MS will be critiscised for almost the opposite - not a lot of crap - most titles apear to be solid 7+ titles (No Azuriks here), but no Halo either; Damned if the do, damned if they don't.
Of course no one really new that Halo was all that until a few days before Xbox launched either... maybe PGR3 or some other title will be reviewed as well as Halo?
I would not necessarily say that this is the 'best' launch line-up ever, but it can certainly challenge for the most solid.
Dracos said:
Mario and Sonic are neither original nor do they sell better than the biggest sports games these days.
Kameo, Condemned
Project Gotham Racing 3, easily.
It's not junk.
You're not going to be paying less for a system unless it's the Revolution. If that bothers you, buy the Core. Games like Fantavision make one BEG for mediocrity.
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quadriplegicjon said:
Well now you can play the best game ever amongst the best launch line up ever!
DC launch lineup was stellar for its time: Soul Calibur, NFL 2K, Sonic Adventure, Tokyo Xtreme Racer, House of the Dead 2, Power Stone...
I HAD to have those games. I'm still wondering if I have to buy x360 the full price for its early lineup (actually I really don't think so but my HD TV is screaming for HD content).
I HAD to have those games. I'm still wondering if I have to buy x360 the full price for its early lineup (actually I really don't think so but my HD TV is screaming for HD content).