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[ViciousDS]

And what if you are using a media remote and not a controller?

I agree with the "more options than 1 and 6" point though.

Button input


Most people will pause a movie or tv show for long enough sessions to grab another beer (food, drink lol you get it). Reset the timer when it detects an input.

 

[danowat]

Button input


Most people will pause a movie or tv show for long enough sessions to grab another beer. Reset the timer when it detects an input.

But then you are relying on most people pausing the media, which doesn't always happen.

Look, we could go round in circles for ever here, there are power saving options, and they are highlighted during first run (at least in the EU), it's up to the individual the use those options in the best way, and the end user should be ultimately responsibly for the power they are using.

What I don't get is how this is MS problem, and how they are ignoring the problem.

 

[GavinGT]

Personally watching TV through an XB1s power usage bothers me more

Unless it's changed recently it adds 72 watts/hr to watching tv

http://www.nrdc.org/energy/game-consoles/

I would be fine with that if they simply enabled pass through so I wouldn't have to turn on the xb1 to watch tv in that scenario

I should note I still don't own an xb1 but always thought the active only pass through was quite the oversight, intentional or not.

A Watt is already a measurement of energy per second.

 

[ViciousDS]

But then you are relying on most people pausing the media, which doesn't always happen.

Look, we could go round in circles for ever here, there are power saving options, and they are highlighted during first run (at least in the EU), it's up to the individual the use those options in the best way, and the end user should be ultimately responsibly for the power they are using.

What I don't get is how this is MS problem, and how they are ignoring the problem.

Because Sony's system does everything we just argued about with no problems or complaints by customers. It offers options 1-5 hours for inactivity and will force the console off (with permission btw, I think its a checkmark) even when media is being played.

It is the only device I trust to actually turn off when I go to sleep.

 

[Dee Dah Dave]

This is scraping the barrel a bit, no?

 

[JoJo UK]

An individual console won't make the slightest bit of difference, no. But when you're talking about tens, or hundred of millions of console, then of course they do.

There is good reason why countries have put in place legislation to limit standby power. Because it's a major contributor to CO2 emissions and climate change. This isn't just my subjective opinion, its an empirical fact.

Did MS drop the price of the XB1 again?

Spoiler

I kid I kid

 

[Haint]

Mine is an audible hum, not super loud, but in a dead quiet room I can hear it. It annoys me. PS4 on the other hand, dead silent.

Yea that's the issue. The room is dead quiet when the air/heat's not running and I don't have any ambient city noise around so it's very easy to hear the fan hum clear across the room. PS4 is also audible (but still quieter than Xbone) when it's doing a heavy DL or install, but the 95% of the time it's not, it's dead silent.

 

[Cloudy]

Unreal. This should be disabled by default. Just turned mine off. I've had xb1s since launch and my current one doesn't even have Kinect -_-

 

[NerdEyeBlind]

You don't really have to look for "it". It is right there in the settings.

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Spoiler

NOT. AN. ISSUE.

 

[mr teaspoon]

We can turn this in a click-bait article if the default was the other way.

"The best Xbox One feature, Microsoft refuses to tell us about" -The Verge.

Are those really comparable? If standby is off by default, worst case scenario is that people don't know about a cool feature. If standby is on by default and users aren't aware, that has an actual impact on the environment. Seems like one has actual stakes worth talking about.

 

[LukasTaves]

Because Sony's system does everything we just argued about with no problems or complaints by customers. It offers options 1-5 hours for inactivity and will force the console off (with permission btw, I think its a checkmark) even when media is being played.

It is the only device I trust to actually turn off when I go to sleep.

I have my xbone set up to auto sleep after an hour, and not a single time I slept in front of the TV watching something it failed to properly turn off, even with autoplay on.

Not sure if it's at system level or handled by the app, but every single time, I wake up to find the console and TV shut down.

 

[Bgamer90]

Unreal. This should be disabled by default. Just turned mine off. I've had xb1s since launch and my current one doesn't even have Kinect -_-

The biggest benefit of the feature is downloading updates in the background instead of having to wait when you turn your system on and/or play a game. Not for saying "Xbox On" with kinect.

Like I said before, I don't understand why this is getting so much criticism. I would imagine that the console and its games will receive so many updates to the point in which not using "instant on" will be worse for energy -- you'll have to wait for the updates to download while the system is FULLY on.

 

[Black_Stride]

Are those really comparable? If standby is off by default, worst case scenario is that people don't know about a cool feature. If standby is on by default and users aren't aware, that has an actual impact on the environment. Seems like one has actual stakes worth talking about.

If im going to make a click-bait article hell yeah they are comparable.



Again I feel like some are blaming MS for not defaulting to low power mode, when the console asks you which powermode you want to use.
The manuals you get explain the difference in powermodes.

Yet MS is ignoring the issue?
Is it really that much of an issue to begin with?
I mean this thread is 3 pages long.....i would never have guess energy saving vs full powermode would be a 3 page discussion.

 

[Hans.Gruber]

The biggest benefit of the feature is downloading updates in the background instead of having to wait when you turn your system on and/or play a game. Not for saying "Xbox On" with kinect.

Like I said before, I don't understand why this is getting so much criticism. I would imagine that the console and its games will receive so many updates to the point in which not using "instant on" will be worse for energy -- you'll have to wait for the updates to download while the system is FULLY on.

Totally on point. Anybody can make a rough estimation how many hours they spent last gen looking at a download/update bar on a fully powered ps360. Friends of mine with crappy internet left their PS3 on over night to download big updates and DLC.
Yesterday I qeued up a COD:AW map pack, Child of Light and that Pool game and all downloaded in instant-on mode.
But let's be real, this article and some of these posts aren't really about the actual facts.
Some people think in terms of Captain Planet episodes and try to paint MS as this guy:

 

[jcm]

I would imagine that the console and its games will receive so many updates to the point in which not using "instant on" will be worse for energy -- you'll have to wait for the updates to download while the system is FULLY on.

I'm not sure about the XB1, but the PS4 uses nearly full power (70 watts) to download and install updates. The standby power is enough to check for updates, but not enough to download and install. It's certainly convenient, but there's no power savings there. In fact, it might be worse, because the system will download and install updates for games that you aren't playing anymore, and would never have bothered to update.

Friends of mine with crappy internet left their PS3 on over night to download big updates and DLC.[/IMG]

The PS3 had a very sensible "Power Off after Finishing Downloads" checkbox.

 

[Hans.Gruber]

The PS3 had a very sensible "Power Off after Finishing Downloads" checkbox.

I had fairly good connections during that gen but when some of my friends downloaded a CoD DLC pack it took them like 12h. So that checkbox didn't help too much.

BTW Do PS4 and X1 have wake on LAN functionality?
That would save some energy because only when an update is triggered the console could be remotely put in instant on mode and turned off.