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Microsoft is looking at using the Cloud to help Xbox One X games take up less space
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nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
It depends whether your limiting factor is bandwidth or HDD space.
I have a fully unlimited internet connection, so this could potentially save me having to buy a massive hard drive.
If bandwidth or data caps are an issue the you carry on as normal.
Options.
Savantcore
Unconfirmed Member
No, I think you've got it. Plus tack on issues of data caps and dodgy connections and it's a minefield. Ideal scenario is that it's just optional, so that those who are able to take advantage do and save some storage space.
Doesn't really help anyone else, mind, so hopefully MS don't rely too heavily on it for future titles.
alexbull_uk
Member
So streaming assets as and when theyre needed?
Interesting idea, but then you cant play offline, and folks with slow or capped connections will suffer even more.
Interesting idea, but then you cant play offline, and folks with slow or capped connections will suffer even more.
Cloud computing and cloud storage are two different things 🤦🏾*♂️
Maintenance
Member
I'm sure Microsoft would appreciate if everyone would just forget about it, but welcome to the internet, where a former slogan is now a source of easy jokes at their expense.
I feel that it was already pretty clear.
Yeah, the joke isn't going away, just like $599, get two jobs, Mattrick's "we got a console for that ", or Ryan's "who would want to play these games."
OT: I'm skeptical of how it turns out
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Just stop. Please. I don't want the cloud.
Jaguar Victory
Member
Yeah. I'll pass. Redmond forgets that they're in fibre country in silicon valley. Most of the world doesn't have the infrastructure.
Stop using the internet then.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Please MS. Don't repeat the same marketing mistakes. Don't bring up the cloud as a selling point for XBX.
AT ALL.
AT ALL.
Not with US ISPs adding in data caps. This is a surefire way to max out your data caps especially if you maintain multiple saves or take part in New game+ modes. You don't just download a game once, you download parts of the game over and over again as it dynamically deletes parts from your local storage.
family_guy
Member
ISPs will hate you even more.
The large majority of people in the only market carrying MS right now are under data caps.
Its a good lead in to a "XBX is always online to take advantage of the cloud"
They aren't going to do this, right?
Colbert
Banned
A platform guy is talking how they want to expand the platform. Thats no marketing at all, this is about platform capabilities on Xbox Live being discussed/looked at internally.
People seem to really over-react if they hear "MS" and "cloud" in the same sentence combined with drawing quick conclusions have nothing to do what actually was said.
They'll make it an option not the standard because ISPs are shit in the US for the most part.
In theory you could already do this if you could set your Onedrive as external HDD. Sure their proposed solution will probably have quicker drives but suspect the drive won't be the bottleneck most of the time anyway.
bananafactory
Banned
I got news for you
Have you downloaded a game digitally? A patch or update? DLC? You used the cloud
People love to throw the word Cloud around but anytime you are uploading or downloading data on servers you're utilizing it
What Microsoft is talking about here isn't really all that different than how your systems currently work. It's just controlling which data is downloaded at what time and cleaning up old data locally.
Shil Pencer
Member
You do know games dont run off discs right?
...then do that.
Shil Pencer
Member
Why are people always so mad at microsoft ideas compared to others?
People really love Playstation Now around here
I know it's not the same thing
killatopak
Gold Member
stop assuming things. can you provide the percentage of people who are the large majortiy who isn't affected by things like data caps? Data caps isn't even my problem with this, it's bandwidth. Sorry I'm not living in the glorious usa or any other country with blazing fast internet speed. poor me.
wha?
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Realistically this would only work on games that features linear levels where you can't turn back. This removes chapter select or open world games where you can access everything anytime.
Yearsoflurking
Member
Sorry to tell u man but you have had that option since 2013.
I´m pretty sure he knows this. Also you do know that you could install "parts" of a game from a disc? So you could still have the dynamic game installs but without the hassle of a required internet connection or any data cap concerns.
That sounds like a really good idea that I hope one day comes to all Micorosft platforms, PC included. I have a 1 TB drive on my PC and managing game installs is really a challenge. Every little bit helps.
The only issue I see from this is that it could cause you to use up more bandwidth if you're constantly having to download/delete sections of a game to save hard drive space. For people with data caps such as myself that will be a big issue.
The only issue I see from this is that it could cause you to use up more bandwidth if you're constantly having to download/delete sections of a game to save hard drive space. For people with data caps such as myself that will be a big issue.
You are a genius inferring this complicated technical system.
I'm sorry, but how does any of this make a point against Microsoft continuing work on this?
The only thing you managed to say in all of that is that its not for you, congratulations.
Not a single time has this been mentioned to overtake anything already in place, and by all accounts seems to exist for people with good internet speeds limited by storage space.
What is going on in this thread? This is some GameFAQ's level posting.
stan423321
Member
This. It's like those Quantum Break videos. Option for those who swear by their internet connections would be nice, but whoever came up with enforcing it on PC should be drug out into the street and shot.
Problem is they're going to alienate the fans that have data caps and non- blazing internet speeds. If thats what MS wants to achieve and aplinter further there base, by all means carry on MS, nothing stopping them. Again, they better think this through carefully and provide other options.
killatopak
Gold Member
nvvm
How are they going to alienate anyone if external hard drive support is already supported on every console they have?
How is them developing something for even a niche group of people with good internet saying anything about their support for people with crappy/capped internet when by all accounts, they seem to be staying updated on the front as well?
Didn't they just announce transferring games directly from Xbox to Xbox instead of through your internet, as well the ability to download One X versions of games early just days ago?
Jesus christ at the first page, people are trying hard to turn this into something its not. This sounds like a option for these large downloads, there is no cost to us. So if you want this on a large HDD go ahead and buy one, if not, this measure is trying to make it more convenient, there is no controversy here.
Great idea as long as it's optional. This my be an issue for people with data caps or spotty connections.
Game sizes will continue to get bigger, so these companies will need to look into ways to combat that.
Edit:
Pretty much. People were bitching about file sizes in the Forza 7 100GB thread. MS presents a possible option to help, and people still bitch.
Game sizes will continue to get bigger, so these companies will need to look into ways to combat that.
Edit:
Pretty much. People were bitching about file sizes in the Forza 7 100GB thread. MS presents a possible option to help, and people still bitch.
Presumably you could just not enable the feature, and download files normally. Best of both worlds for people who would use it and people who won't, right?
Or you could make the HDD more easily replaceable and allow your power users to swap out with a 2TB 2.5 HDD. Heck, sell a SKU without any HDD but with a reasonable amount of flash storage and create an Apple fusion like drive to quick load the OS and frequently used game files. . .
This cloud solution will work well for people on Microsoft's campus and college students, and the handful of folks with fiber connections.
This cloud solution will work well for people on Microsoft's campus and college students, and the handful of folks with fiber connections.
Hahahaha yes
And if they drop support for that game on the future, do you just get nothing when you drive through those areas?
The article doesn't say that you can have those assets locally, but one would hope so. But without any firm evidence that you can, it just kind of seems... Not fully fleshed out yet.
The article doesn't say that you can have those assets locally, but one would hope so. But without any firm evidence that you can, it just kind of seems... Not fully fleshed out yet.
There is real vitrol on the first few pages that I read over some damn storage options. It's pathetic.
Yes...it isn't fleshed out because they're still looking into it.
Its toxic and frankly shameful, It would be nice to get some moderation in these threads now, as its been completely derailed over nothing but irrelevant 2013 cloud speak.
OP, i know you meant well, but the reference to the Cloud obviously triggered the trolls. Lesson for next time.
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