Now I know why I don't come to this board anymore. It's...I don't even understand what the hell people are up-in-arms about. This is just weird.
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Microsoft sells Mediaroom, Xbox to be their TV strategy going forward
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Now I know why I don't come to this board anymore. It's...I don't even understand what the hell people are up-in-arms about. This is just weird.
In an "actual rational world", wouldn't people see this as the Xbox getting more content directed toward it from another division within the company and becoming a more important part of Microsoft's overall direction?
GAF is being pretty consistent here. This is essentially the same reason that much of GAF derided the PS3 at first as well - for adding/designing components that serve purposes other than gaming primarily. The emphasis is on gaming first, anything else as a byproduct of that. Not rational enough for you, in a gaming forum?
When wasn't Xbox an 'important part of MS'? MS have been trying to achieve synergy their brands such as Xbox, Zune etc for years.
The problem is that people fear that gaming will become a second thought on it.
flyinpiranha
Member
Exactly why I also mentioned posts also. This is in direct relation to what direction they are going to be going with on the Xbox and that doesn't even officially exist yet.
Quote directly from the OP.
This directly impacts a device that doesn't 'officially exist' so yes, it can be considered a rumor thread.
Extra Sauce
Member
Cute.
And if one did a comparison 2012 games, MS would have the advantage; especially in terms of Fall releases.
Again, it's silly. Especially when number =/= quality in a person's opinion in the first place.
Sorry but MS IS going to lose that battle. A single purchase on the iTunes Store allows you to watch your shows on your iPhone, iPod, iPad, Apple TV, and PC. Microsoft cant compete with that when they're unable to convince people to buy Windows 8 tablets and Windows phones. And selling a lot of Xboxes isn't going to start the ball rolling on people jumping ship away from google and apple at this stage in the game.
So they're throwing incredible weight and company focus on a feature that is already being destroyed. Apple TV is already real and already exists and it costs $99.
Components that add significantly to the cost you mean?
Metalmurphy
Member
Only if you're completely oblivious or ignore the last couple of years.
Gaf derided ps3 initially because it cost 600 dollars and had no games, no rumble, and crappy online. back in 06/07 all sony gaf talked about was ps3s potential and how much they loved blu-ray movies.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Lots of XBLA "exclusives" are ending on PC. And MS first party output is getting worst each year, if you don't count Kinect games, which quite a few people aren't interested.
How is this shifting focus? Did you read somewhere where they said they'd be dropping games support? That would be a shift. As it stands, it's an expansion, not a shift. But of course like I said, neck beards gonna get all up in arms about a strategy everyone saw coming since the first Xbox, all rational thought goes out the window
Partially that, but also more generally designing the system to be at least partially optimized around services other than gaming as the primary. Hence the rumored 3 out 8 gigs of RAM reserved for OS services, for example.harSon said:
And why did it cost so much, why was it lacking on those other fronts you mentioned? Because Sony lost sight for a time of the primary gaming focus of these consoles. Because they were also trying to kickstart a brand new media delivery format with Bluray and win an impending format war with HDDVD that had nothing to do with gaming. And plenty here complained that they were doing it.Jadedx said:
grimshawish
Banned
Xbox has taken over all MS entertainment branding. Its not getting dropped.
I do think Xbox Infinity fits the Windows 8 branding though.
I do think Xbox Infinity fits the Windows 8 branding though.
ChosenPredator
Banned
there is other forums without them going nuts over this stuff, as a matter of fact making it the optional thing to do everything on is a pretty good thing gives you a reason to do something after you close down a game, most of the people on my xbox live are using it for netflix from what I've noticed.
Sony still released way more games than MS in 2012. We can argue about the quality of most of them (and Sony should be criticised for it) but not about the quantity and the effort made by Sony to offer gamers a diverse portfolio.
Aquamarine
Member
3. Xbox is a consumer household name, one that's INSTANTLY recognizable for consumers all around the world.
But there's a very good chance that Microsoft will just call its next console "The Xbox" or "The Next Xbox" or "The New Xbox."
What's that got to do with anything?
Probably one of the drivers of an always online requirement is so that these server type functions can be expected to be there. Of course they could be done without them, but I am sure that is one of the reasons. Expect to be able to stream movies(live, recorded), music, and games from the box to a litany of devices via LAN or across the internet. There will also probably be hooks for 3rd party applications to tie into as well so you could do some remote home automation or some such stuff.
Impeccable
Member
Jaded and a fan of Xbox.
Historically speaking, I think that means starting in 2015 or so, every year will be the 'year of the [whatever the next Xbox is called]'
Alx
Member
Yeah, just like a first born kid is worried when his parents announce that he'll get a baby brother/sister... at that moment he will fear that he won't be loved any more, that his parents will abandon him and spend all their time with the new baby. So he throws a fit to get all the attention, shouts and cries and breaks everything in the room. Only months later will he realize that there's nothing wrong with being several brothers and sisters in a family (it's actually great), and that the older ones are not less loved.
I grew up in a family of 5 kids, and the scenario above never failed to happen.
I don't see a problem here. MS focus more on their next-gen console with their studios and Sony will split the efforts for current and next gen.
We have enough games through third party titles till the next-gen comes out.
So unlike itunes where I can download media files to my idevice for OFFline use, MS will most likely not allow that.
Then maybe you should stop spinning and you might feel better.
Stoffinator
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You can take Canada off that list. We barely get any of them up here too.
CassidyIzABeast
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Oh my god, the successor to the console with damn near every movie/TV subscription service on the planet is now Microsoft's #1 TV focus. How did it come to this?!
Miles Quaritch
Member
Why are people so surprised?
Stream games to any device? Goddamn, would be incredible if they could pull it off.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
These features are going to add to the cost, either directly to the cost of the console or indirectly to the cost of XBL.
And those features are going to be limited for those not in the US.
How, as a European gamer does any of that add value for me?
And those features are going to be limited for those not in the US.
How, as a European gamer does any of that add value for me?
yup, which is the reason I will mostly likely go with the PS4. Otherwise I would have been fine with Durango assuming the likely event that the OMFG rumors are false
There might be a different way to look at this news...strikes me that there's a significant numbers comparison in the article...
I think it's intentional that they listed these numbers in quick succession for the notable market performance differential. The IPTV efforts weren't getting the kind of traction that the Xbox program was getting without any IPTV service. i.e. the xbox approach to media distribution seems to be the preferable one, so perhaps they're not trying to combine them, just taking the remaining resources from IPTV and transfer them over to xbox to help it do what it's already doing, not try to rebuild their IPTV solutions again. IMO, hopefully.
I think it's intentional that they listed these numbers in quick succession for the notable market performance differential. The IPTV efforts weren't getting the kind of traction that the Xbox program was getting without any IPTV service. i.e. the xbox approach to media distribution seems to be the preferable one, so perhaps they're not trying to combine them, just taking the remaining resources from IPTV and transfer them over to xbox to help it do what it's already doing, not try to rebuild their IPTV solutions again. IMO, hopefully.
But MS has not lost focus on gaming, they have said multiple fucking times that they are focusing on core gamers. They opened up over 15 studios since 09, they dedicated over 300 million to core games, they have been hiring talented devs from ubi, ea, codemasters, naughty dog, etc.
TheJollyCorner
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Not that I disagree, but Nintendo said something similar when the Wii was revealed and everyone laughed at it.
"We're not competing directly with Sony and MS anymore."
Flash-forward to early 2007.
"We have the top-selling video game console on the market. Suck it, Sony & MS."
MS can say they are competing in a completely different sector all they want.
If their plan actually works (and it just very well might; after the cultural phenomenon sucess that was the Wii, nothing surprises me anymore), you can bet your ass they'll be grave-dancing anyone and everyone they can, especially Sony.
In that case, you wouldn't need to be streaming from the console if the media was already on the device. You would obviously need to have connectivity to the box to initially download the content(if the content was needing to be retrieved from the box and wasn't available from their cloud services).
Exactly. Welllll at least it seems I was dead on with one of my predictions at least when I said there would be no ps4. I said the next Xbox will be a set top media box a la Apple TV. I knew that was going to happen. Do I think it's a very smart move? Yes. Am I against it? No. The more ways people have to access and buy media the better. I knew this would be getting the preliminary reaction it's getting. And what's more is this is basically the per-shitstorm. I'm not proud nor happy I was right on this. I knew 3 years ago this is where they'd end up. So, more so than a games console, this thing will be a serious second choice to think about for those that want a set top media box. I guess what I'll close my post with is be glad you're getting one true gaming console with the PS4. Though, ill be honest, I think as time goes on Sony will try to compete with this and add in more media features. As they say: lead, follow, or get outta the way. The latter two options don't seem to be microsofts goal. I still think Apple is going to do something very big and Microsoft knows it. Though not 100 percent sure yet it looks like I've been vindicated on one prediction and for that I'm sorry, Gaf.
Money made on consumer entertainment is mostly made in big ways in America, no? I think that at least explains Microsoft's strategy with Xbox 360, seeing as it died in other locations or lacked tons of features elsewhere.
Again, this means little if there are good games, but outside of Halo, will there be?
Glad to see I'm not the only one that believes this. The lack of "games/new IPs" the last year+ on the 360 is because they've been focusing on GAMES for launch for a long time.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Looks somewhat similar to the PS4 UI.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Or maybe the most feature heavy we've ever seen on top of being a real deal, hardcore gaming machine.
Maybe, but if the always online to start a game rumors are true, game over. I have an xbox1 and 360, I won't buy this new one.
